65 bpt on a dict is optimal for building a little over 24k acres after building that last cs. I dont think that has ever happened in tournament. The most I have done and made worth it with non-theo was like 85 bpt.

Not as a dict tho, but I'd love to try a dict netter in tourney some time. Could be fun(not for everyone, but for me).

I am so fed up with this arguement. If I say I can't defend myself and still have a shot at winning then no one can. Period.

I have three consecutive NW records on this server and I'm the only one that ever passed 860m NW, I have the NW record in tournament(no bots no tags) and I am the only player who won all servers. What do you have that I don´t? What you have is most likely an inability to grow a country that is worth suiciding.

Last set when the suicides came to LaF I sat on ~20m turrets, ~1.5m tanks and 93% SDI. That might seem like a lot but the only reason I was not hit was that the suiciders were too stupid to realize I was heading for 1.1b+ NW since I was just 140k acres. If they wanted to break me they could have, and if they couldn't they could wait 1 day and break me.

When you argue that defence can stop suicides you are missing the bigger picture; you can't win if you adequatly defend yourself, so the winner is always picked by the suiciders. If they wish you to lose, you will.
The winner is picked by the griefers from a limited pool of capable players that do not defend themselves enough to stop a suicider. Every player in the game right now can be suicided. And that will be true for the rest of the reset until maybe about a week from the end. No one is adequatly defended. But there are a few capable players, most were just suicided, the few that were not will take the top spots.

But who am I kidding, I'm talking to losers(who failed to win every set they ever played) about winning, why would you understand?

Dang, I was sure they were waiting for the tech prices to drop or for food prices to rise, would have never guessed.

I think they are just waiting for better tech prices. I save turns all the time for netting.

You can do it in a few different ways. I usually mainly PS up until about the point when I am about 8-11k acres if I'm not too lazy and risk overflow.

20k acres by turn 900 is about standard with a techer. you should get there with turns saved and go on a teching spree of 200ish turns right around there...with the tax income and the tech NW you wont be fat after that even if you were mostly jets as you grabbed up to 20k.

I think that archaic is referring to PDM, which was run by ingle to suicide i forget who...

RedX suicided Omega this set and LaF helped kill him. His restart kept suiciding omega and LaF.

RedX has previously been vocal against these restart ratios that you and I both agree should be at least chopped, maybe his abuse of these game mechanics is some attempt at a utilitarian expression of trying to persuade the devs that the restart bonus is too strong and too easy to abuse. In that case I think like 3 seconds of research would show that this has been tried before... Though as they say; Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

I should say the same to SaltyTears. It was not smart to post here as I have had mod access on these boards for a month now (I told the devs about it but nothing happened so I guess they want it that way). But you clearly want to hide your name and your bud has not tipped you off that it might be unwise to post here under these circumstances. :))))

Against all my wishes, LaF has a kill team this set. :)

Kill teams in LaF has historically always just been an excuse to run a bad country.

Still 100% win rate in all my netting sets on alliance, still 3 consecutive NW records, still the only player to ever make a finish above $1B NW in 1a on EE. This is helping me maintain the 100% win rate which is sweet, and with little effort too.

Roses are red, Yoda is green, everything is proceeding as I have forseen.

Don Gerdler, Lord of the dark side of LaF.

I would use harsher language than disappointing if I felt the need to put a name to it, but yes..

I guess tho that the fewer the players the lower the work load in modding the game so I guess he just wants to get there this way.

419 and 474 are RedX if I'm not mistaken.

Hmm I think SoF were the first to start with the L:L.

RedX said "if you dont have the defence do you need the land?" well I will counter to you: If you are so small that you still will come out ahead after a 1:1 trade (getting hit back AFTER a large PS) it means you have grown slowly on purpose, ie you did not actually need the land.

Everyone who has more land than you, gained it in a way you could have too. You would have been better off for it. You know this and you also know you were not killed for TFing. You were killed for octa-tapping omega and now you are going to be killed again for suiciding them over retals that took back 50% of the land.

You are also being farmed by Elders and not retaling while TFing and suiciding Omega? your rationale being what exactly?

"Gotta bring down those foul Omegans, scourge of EE, grabbing bots and not bothering anyone, the dark side."

Yeah that was a real nice fat commie!

I was first loser.

Last set I had to war Shakuras (#79) over RORing me:
https://www.eestats.com/primary/oldcountry/1576/61

It had the intended effect. the guy got his country in ruins and he quit. If he had kept playing it would take another day for him to be useless anyway, then I would have kept going, as I did when he self deleted, and carried those news with me all set. Showing that if you ror me I am not gonna think twice about taking you out gave me the peace of mind to netgain. I'm 100% certain that it did not cost me 1st place either because if I had not taken him out on RoRing me I would have been getting more RoRs for sure, maybe by #79, maybe by others.

No way. Here's a tag that dont allow members to tech, build CS or cash. #triggered #libertyisdead

Does 7B bushels swing a war these days?

LHSFT was imposter IHSFT is the real deal. :)

when did you come back and did you play before that? I had hiatus 2006-2017 :)

Since we know how this always goes we elected to kill right away instead of wait for a full suicide for retalling him. Fool me ten times shame on me, right?

I think it's interesting that MountaiYeti will now be incentiviced to hit DS more often since it works out so well for him. He gets free land and his competition get suicided. Why would he do anything different?

This is why Eberts policy of killing for double taps makes sense, if you double retal you get killed. Which is what we discussed and idiots failed to understand. There is no way to get even from a double tap that does not lead to the aggressor suiciding or KRing you so if you gotta have a policy a kill:2 policy is the only viable one. I don't have a policy, well except that I don't give the double tapper what he wants.

Cheeseman you need to start killing for multi-taps. You just gave him what you want, take it out on the next guy who multi-taps you.

Wow paying it forward... such a great plan. Is this clintonista?

Good point :)

I maid you a maid man

stung by a yellowjacket

You need Demo for that extra 0.48% warfare. And turn bonus or luck.

Your next medal will have to be the top 10 medal, we are fresh out of missile medals and bot civ kill medals.

Gratz to hot chicks! :)

I'm guessing you are referring to our resident superflu - he thinks he can get the missile medal for hitting bots with missiles instead of our enemies. We shall see about that. :)

Are there? In the games with bots land is easy enough usually so that land farms are not guaranteed to be better than just grabbing bots with precision.

In the games without bots, you see land farms every other reset in team but it is not against the rules currently there. In tournament its rare and in primary it happens that someone quits and lets others farm him, which imo is against the rules but often does not lead to deletion. Either way it's not a huge problem, because; bots.

the added benefit of 4k acre challenge is that it helps balance the tech market... 1k acre challenge might do that but only slightly

that has very little to do with express though. I doubt anyone reads this forum for info on FFA, m8...

Setting highlights is not a challenge. Either way I'd make it a 4k challenge or some number like that. too hard to get t10 with 1k acres and 4k is already a large enough landcuff(haha). 1k also leaves you with only one strategy while 4k might make it more interesting. :)

It's often low early before the casher and farmer bots really get their economy going to buy a lot.

If this was not in game A the answer is; get to game A.

If this was in game A the answer is; remove him from game A.

TBH I can easily imagine that. It's a very simple task and obviously gratifying to some. What I cannot for the life of me imagine is why this is not seen as a bigger a problem that people can do this, because if they can, someone most certainly will. Hidden profiles, restart bonuses, NW ratios, AB+landgrab returns formulas and missile impact formulas all favour suiciding and when this is pointed out some people fight tooth and nail to keep the game unbalanced in favour of suiciding.

It's still your fault though right?

The purpose is to make us think outside of the box, right? So if for example we do fascist casher now it's no longer outside of the box since it is gonna be pretty similar to tyr casher.

Commie casher is just a slightly worse casher that you play almost exactly the same as a regular casher govt.

A perfect challenge leaves the player options to do whatever albeit with some kind of hard limitations.

"6). "Size doesn't matter, it's how you use it" : 4000 acres max, all set. Ha ha Ha! Why bother?" <-- something like this could be interesting as it would force some ingenuity, and it would also make sure that we dont f the market by adding more tech demand again.

Another would be either an all-out brawl or a tournament of 1-day randomized fights between us, highest live NW wins or something. <- Also out of the box thinking required, tests another skillset.

Or my idea from that thread with a scoring system based on hitting the bots.

Marsha don't understand that commie casher and farmer are almost legit strats... commie techer is guaranteed t5.

No. It became boxcar and while everything else got faster it got slower. :)

The market wont work for 5+ MBRs even if theo. The market in express wont demand that much.

It would be fun perhaps if the rule was to finish the game with 10k MBs or more, so a techer to MBR challenge?

Ohh and while it has been pointed out that fascist techer is a pretty good strategy such a challenge would likely be able to create a good maket and perhaps a fascist nw record. As a 'challenge' though I have a hard time seeing how it would be challenging.

Jesus, I'm not really sure what you are trying to accomplish at this point except trying to make people quit LaF; I'm quitting LaF for sure. Derrick paints a much more exciting picture, maybe because he misses his times in #laf.war.

Everyone wants to hit a fat rep casher on express. And a casher has the high bot inflated prices for res/bus tech to manage. This coupled with the short set makes casher kinda pointless on express.

Commie indy and demo/dict/fascist farmer are all viable, but techer is most viable. 2 times have non-techers gotten past 50m nw on express afaik, they were both commie indy and they just barely passed the 50 mark. Techer on the other hand you got at least a few dozen of that has passed 50m nw, like 20 that has passed 60m and even 6 or so that passed 70m. Two above 80m even! So techer techer techer, if finishing well is all you are after.

If you dont take turns and dont log in its full at 00:00:01 friday. You will then log in with 366(360) turns and if you wait til you get the next turn you will have 360 360 turns.

If you log in several times during this time you get a bunch of 3 and 6 turn bonuses so you get there sooner. I dont know how much faster is theoretically or practically possible. Also it might not be the best idea to wait so long aa by that time the bots all have significant defences. I often go to turn 99 and then await near max turns and it often screws me for that reason as well as that i overflow due to sleep often when i do it.

Awesome dude! :)

try for top 5 next set!

+1
If you have a serious problem you can't afford to attack it just from one angle. If you are morbidly obese you can't just start working out or go on a diet, you probably have to do both if you want good results that last.

I am against making huge broad damage cruise missiles. It carries a conventional explosive, does it not? So how can it destroy more than a nuke?

I like the targeted feel you get that the mechanism only hits the military and it takes out readiness. but its far too little. Maybe a hit can take out some tech too, Tech business are often located in a fairly concentrated area so it makes sense that you need to target it and that that could be effective. :)

I dont disagree with any of your suggestions if they are take 1 by 1, dancingbear. However, if cruise did all that it would be both very unlike the real world and also very overpowered. It would also create a lot of work for qz both to balance and to add new mechanics. The easiest changes are always to just change a number in the formula - which means those changes are the ones we are most likely to get.