I've been saying it for awhile now: Dissident & Dreckon working together. (I'm convinced not all of Elders know about it, but they probably don't care either). I'm sure Diss & Drek trade messages/intel on the regular, and they probably tried to recruit your clan, and it backfired.

To hear what Reckless is saying isn't a surprise at all.

The next step you can expect Reckless, is Dissident's campaign to make you an outsider. That's when you'll "see" the alliance on the server.

Everyone break out your Celphi brand Tin foil anti-conspiracy hats.

Ya. Youre high. I can prove youre wrong... but you still wont believe me.

and Reckless I specifically told you that I had barely talked to Dissident, and that I had told him that I thought we were cool with Icon because YOU said that we would both "call off the BS"... and then the next day y'all dumped a bunch of missiles on our guy? and not I am not defending his prior actions as I am sure you will try to cloud the issue with, I am clarifying that you and me had a VERY specific agreement to call everything off and you blatantly went back on your word.

and Celphi xBaDx would have kicked your azz last reset if we weren't 1/4 your size when we took the FS... so I wouldn't try to brag about that... if y'all hadn't quit you would all be dead by now this reset, maybe for the 2nd time each.

the rest of this gave me a headache...

however I agree w/ MrFord (puked in my mouth right there lol) that mods being unavailable is the problem... when we had our third suicider that admitted being paid to do it I reported those messages and got ZERO response even though I also sent PMs to tella about it.... EVER

as for the demos... I don't think that was cool actually during war, but not deleatable probably... but Rybka also farmed one of our suiciders WHILE he was doing his suicide run so he was in DRs for us... illegal according to posted rules? no... but a total punk move? yes....

I have had some RL stuff this set... so I have not been on IRC almost at all, and even my teammates are about to lynch me... sorry guys!

So I haven't talked to hardly anyone other than Reckless that day regarding MrFord and Doogs - and I don't lie either - so deal with it

I said we'd cool off the TT thread and messages between members. If you took that for retals thats on you. And...you never got back to me about our further discussion. I respect your RL issues. Genuinely. But dont try to put this on us. We took the retals we felt warrented the entire situation.

BS... we said we would "call off the guys" or something very similar... zero about the TT thread - that's a lie.

And we have both been around long enough to know missiles aren't an accepted form of "retals" for a legit retal action... your'e wasting your breath and my time

you gonna address why you accused me and Dissident when I specifically told you we never talked? your credibility is shot with me at least... my advice is to either back out or admit you were talking out your azz

correction: I specifically told you me and Dissident hardly talked...

Good discussion ladies. Mounds of ideas and input.

The discussion about rules... stickied at the top by a mod

So you're going to go along with this Drek? Wow. You guys are something.

You're right. Anyone with issues can PM here or on IRC.

I think reckless and celphi should get a room. For makeouts and other heavy petting

sounds like a recipe for full contact chess with a predetermined winner

Reckless seems like a Grob player.

I was thinking more along the lines of taking a pawn is a punch, body slam for a knight, stone cold stunner for checkmate

The direction this discussion has taken is giving me a happy. It's like watching flowers I'd forgotten I even planted blooming.

I don't know Dreckon's name and i don't have him on facebook. you can ask a mod to check messages here to see if intel has been exchanged... go... have your crusade. you won't find anything.

i encourage you to pursue this... because it makes you look batfluff crazy

I don't have to ask the mods. It was only 3 sets ago when I was in Elders. When I picked xBaDx as our target, guess who diverted the target?

Had Reckless played along as your puppet, he'd be part of the alliance as well.

and when you warred with book, we took their side. the next set, we killed them all off.

things happen quickly on this server. I can't say from one set to the next who we will war.

maybe next set we will war with Drunksex again... or maybe villains.

you make it seem like there's a status quo. There isnt.

Our beef dissident occurred in the exact same fashion. I can even post the thread---

I wasn't even talking to you, and you felt you had to defend dreckon in a thread. That's how it all started.

I'm also not going to engage with you on what has happened in the past because I don't obsess about it like you do. At Elders, we take it one set at a time.

As i said before, the "big 5" as you phrase it, has only spoken together once... in regards to suiciders. That is the only time. Just because we are all war tags, doesn't mean our interests are aligned.

Villains- Dragon made it clear that they will only war with tags who violate their retal policy
Drunksex- I honestly don't know what motivates them. I think they just like to attach explosives to stuff and see what happens.
Bad- is.... i dunno... rebuilding? No idea what motivates them. I'm pretty sure I'm mortal enemies with some of their players. who is all on your team?
Weedy- we haven't had a lot of contact with them. I think they like to net and war sometimes.

Like... if you claim to think that I am in league with these teams, you're mistaken. I honestly don't know a lot about them... except that you don't mess with them unless you want to become the thing between a hammer and an anvil.

http://earthempires.com/...-xbadx-36435?t=1435235098

Check it out. It wasn't that long ago. Defending Dreckon as usual.

Then when you tried to lie about the discussion, I posted proof of the convo, and that's when the fall out occurred.

ugh... i dont have time to look months in the past. We've been through all of this. Say something new.

btw, i do you always edit your posts? cuz i read the original too. now its way different. i should start screenshotting when i catch you...

You're right-- it's the same ole' dissident. Except this time it's occurring with Reckless.

Reckless isn't as frustrating as you are.

btw... do you even have a stake in this?

http://earthgraphs.com/...p;clan=Anon&reset=907

i see you got lavender in there too. cheater. for someone who claims to be a beacon of rule following, you sure do get deleted.

it's red and gold not silver and black :p

Hey. I tried following the rules. You and your alliance weren't interested in that method. So welcome to TEAM w/ your rules.

so now you're just going to cheat blatantly? your mind must be a very interesting place.

nice to know celphi has no integrity

Welcome to THUNDERDOME!!!!!

I'll enter. Who's with me?

Do yall really think at this point I care what your opinions of me are? Haha. I mean really.

you seem to give that impression

Cheating is silly easy, as long as you have some guys running untagged and keep all organizational conversations out of the ingame PMs, viola you're clear to run gangbangs all you want. Like i said in the other thread, its not a rules issue - its a climate issue.

Gaming the system on a lifeboat is a lot easier bthan it was on a cruise ship in the old days when RD had spies everywhere and I could never guarantee that two marks would ever talk to each other.

If I want to plant a rumor and start a war on Team, its a five minute job to whisper in the right ear.

You guys are pointing fingers at each other over behavior that we are all guilty of. It's a pot and kettle convention. Lols.

as long as we have something to kill im happy. i dont really care much about too many of yall lol