thats a load of stuff in here but i have found this summed up by someone really nicely"

"LaF broke a pact to hit EVO? Yes.
LaF had reasons to do so? Evo didn't have the best intentions with that clausule

I would say this happened because KJ wanted to be a smartass."

i am only interested in the first part. i do not care if laf had reasons (they were not legit). i don't care who wants to be a smartass. i do not care if hanlong is white, asian, gay, smells bad, lies usually, has a lump feet, etc. if a clause was found in pact that "this gets voided if hanlong is one or more of the following white, asian, gay, smells bad, lies usually, has a lump feet". then that would be good to post logs and fluff.

otherwise i don't care how KJ is how hanlong pisses how i scratch my head. it's totally irrelevant and that can only make the player's image bad but the fact that LAF broke a pact still stands.

i don't see where you going with the changing it to "at war" clause next set? did you sign? if you did, why does it matter now?

VOIDING a pact is legit disregarding the clause you do it for (if specified in pact terms, ofc)
BREAKING a pact means you just want to forget you sign that pact without any "legal" clauses written in the pact.

i dont know about others and i don't think LAF will care much (since we're no big threat to you) but if this still doesnt show that you DID NOT BREAK this set's uNAP, i will insist Imag has absolutely no FA relations on the future because they obviously mean nothing to you.

then why'd you sign other pact for the remaining time of this set? that brings us back to the point. the one containing the void clause was for the next 3 sets (not this and next 3 sets).

you do realise its pointless for us to keep posting:

a) there were two pacts
b) no there was only one pact

all day im sure, i even saw someone post something about a third pact at some point but im not sure whats up with that

Sure why not. I want to be a bitter like Hanlong holding grudges for things I did all those years ago too =)

Dear anoniem, a skyelitez member talking about cheating again hmm anyone else here remember what the big 6 did? :D

Dear anoniem, a skyelitez member talking about cheating again hmm anyone else here remember what the big 6 did? :D

As for Rival declaring war on SOL in defense of SOF i cant remember this? Is this like when you accused SoF of breaking a pact to FS EVO and we actually FSed another tag? or did this actually happend?

So ITavi since EVO clearly broke pacts last set I assume that Imag will immediately DROP your FDP with them since pacts means nothing to them?

Just curious

How can someone be lying but not even be aware that they're lying? Brilliant argument there champ.

Ivan you clearly are a retard. You state 'you called them in' and you are correct. You called in an FDP after you made the first strike - why even bother with 'defensive pacts' if you losers (LaF included) define pacts however you want, whenever you want for whatever reason.

It was another douche move from a bunch of douchebags.

KJ and Hanlong deserve each other. Both pretty fluffy. That said, just because something is set to auto-renew doesn't mean it is already started. I can set payments to auto-renew when the first payment clears on the date that I have set for the future.

No surprise, but I agree with Sifos and iTavi. It seems pretty clear that the pact for the "remainder of this set" is a "standard uNAP" and not the one with the clause, which is obviously not standard. I also agree with enshula that there are way better ways to specify the rules for said clause. Then again, there are better ways to deal with pact signing than "whatever". To each their own I suppose.

That ends the part that really deals with this thread and situation, now as a side note into the fluffiness of Hanlong and KJ (these are obviously my opinions and I fully expect flames, hopefully these are not construed as being derogatory, but character defining):
I think KJ is an ass, but he's an honest ass. He's direct and obvious and unrepentant. Take it or leave it. Hanlong is an ass, but he's more manipulative and deceitful. Obviously many of his statements are like the lies of politicians (of course LaF ALWAYS wants to net, except when they want to break pacts and hit Evo because they called them bad names and insulted their level of skill) and I think it is getting harder for people to believe anything he says.

All I know is I got insulted for having the neutral view of neither side really being "right". After that all I'll say is good luck LaF.