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Ruthie

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Oct 31st 2013, 23:18:06

what happened to your caps?
~Ruthless~
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SAM_DANGER Game profile

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Oct 31st 2013, 23:20:47

I FELT THIS WAS AN OCCASION WHICH CALLED FOR ME TO LOWER MYSELF TO THE WEAK, TINY LETTERS OF YOU COWERING SIMPS.

THAT OCCASION IS NOW OVER!

HA!

SAM

GodHead Dibs Game profile

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Oct 31st 2013, 23:23:04

why can't you just admit that the shift key got stuck?
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SAM_DANGER Game profile

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Oct 31st 2013, 23:27:23

BECAUSE THEN I WOULD HAVE TO EXPLAIN HOW IT GOT STUCK!

AND THEN SOMEONE MIGHT TELL MY WIFE!

AND THEN I WOULD BE THE COWERING SIMP!

GodHead Dibs Game profile

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Oct 31st 2013, 23:31:06

you're already a cowering simp that is hiding the truth from your wife.
Dibs Ludicrous was here.

GodHead Dibs Game profile

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Oct 31st 2013, 23:42:06

definitely has something to do with this place being full of raving lunatics.
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Getafix Game profile

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Oct 31st 2013, 23:52:48

I RESENT THAT, "Godhead!!!. We are NOT raving lunatics!! Factors such as the MOON and PAGAN rituals have NO EFFECT AT ALL on my mental state!!! SO FOAD you imposter!!!! OR I WILL Curse this Server and SILENCE all the tiny voices here!! Then you'll be sorry!!

GodHead Dibs Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 0:02:26

you do understand that your pathetic voodoo tricks don't actually stand a chance against my mind altering reality, don't you?
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SAM_DANGER Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 0:02:29

Originally posted by GodHead Dibs:
you're already a cowering simp that is hiding the truth from your wife.


I LIKE YOU A LOT BETTER WHEN YOU'RE NOT LUCID!

GodHead Dibs Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 0:04:22

Originally posted by SAM_DANGER:
Originally posted by GodHead Dibs:
you're already a cowering simp that is hiding the truth from your wife.


I LIKE YOU A LOT BETTER WHEN YOU'RE NOT LUCID!


file a complaint with Yuengling. that was after a six pack of Light Lager.
Dibs Ludicrous was here.

Getafix Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 0:10:23

Umm, how does that mind altering reality thing work?

Akula Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 0:49:05

Originally posted by deepcode:
NSA/CIA/CSEC, whatever.

Assume they're always there.


*nods*

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Ershow Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 1:10:56

Good. I welcome this. Any serious hacking should be reported to the authorities, and the perpetrator should be made to squirm like a little fluff. This should have happened regardless. The person responsible for this fluff mess needs to be punished, and I hope they rot, so the people affected by this fluffstorm may feel aggrieved.

As for the personal threats, surely they are just stupid rants made by pissed off people. You pissed a lot of good people off with the mass deletions, myself included.

I do feel that you guys handled it poorly. I think if you had provided substantial, well collated and irrefutable proof in your initial post, and left out the circumstantial bullfluff, the aggrieved (clean players who got fluffed) would have probably reacted with more reservation instead of coming out swinging and standing up for our buddies. I still fail to see how the proof provided implicates all of RD leadership, or ties Silver to being an accessory to the crime, and as such, I will not pass judgement on them until such evidence is provided, or enough information is presented to convince me of their involvement.

Having access to member lists is irrelevant, loads of alliances gather that information by legitimate (if somewhat immoral) means, and if you think they don't, then you are being extremely naïve. I think it's unfair to speculate that the hacking is related to this gathering of information. It *might* be related, but I honestly don't think RD would have any need to obtain any of the information illegally, nor would a number of other alliances.

On reflection, I was out of order calling numerous people idiots or fluffheads or whatever, but that's just a natural reaction to the immense feelings of being wronged (either way someone had fluffed us). I honestly wouldn't take any threats seriously.

Anyway, that's enough from me on this matter. Apologies to anyone who took offence to my rage posts the other day (except anyone who really is an idiot).




archaic Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 1:24:28

Well, its been real. Its been fun, its even been real fun once or twice. Alas, I think that this ship has finally sailed.

I've got to suicide somebody in Primary, then I think I'm packing it in. I decided to play one set in RD as a tribute to LC and because of how much I like Braden - now I have a purple country. That's just a little more in common with Alin than I ever wanted to be.

I never used anything complex for a password, so good luck hacking my email with '1234', but its the thought that counted. TheMatrix/Mr. Copper, while you sir always elevated the douchebag bar to new heights, this may be hard to top.

I suspect that there will be under 400 playing alliance next set, probably way under. Classy.

Sianara.
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snawdog Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 1:44:27

RD? Surprised? What?
fluffim' nitwits....
Get a life and leave EE.

Edited By: Pang on Nov 1st 2013, 1:55:40
See Original Post
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snawdog Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 1:47:07

Originally posted by Mr.Silver:
I've already stated the extent of my involvement to multiple people in game and also to an admin.

As far as I could tell during the time no hacking had occurred, however posts show that something did. Any and such is far beyond my scope or understanding. It looks from provided postings that something has happened but i don't even remotely have a clue what all it entails or anything of the sort.

I have not heard any RD leaders or members planning any sort of revenge either in game or in RL. One member went on a rant the day of the deletions, but he even said multiple times in his rant that he was drunk and upset. He is a fun loving guy and everyone in the game knows he's a harmless guy, he was just ranting. Other than that I've seen or heard nothing.

If the assertions all made in the original thread are true, I still would not see Copper logging into people's life stuff (facebook,email,porn sites,etc). It wouldn't make sense and could jeopardize his RL job.

As per Pang's wishes I have quit the game and wish everyone the best of luck, Those that I provided help for still feel free to contact me if you need any help with strats etc or just want to chat.

Best wishes to everyone and I'd like to thank the admins and owners for the time they put into bringing the game for everyone. Pang this includes you. While ingame I didn't like you very much. I did appreciate the time and effort you spent running the game.

Everything in this game is volunteered base. from Div Leaders to Alliance Leaders to Mods to Game Admins. Remember that to anyone that goes on a rant

anyways,
best of luck.

You're all fluff and you know it..now stfu and leave our community
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Requiem Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 3:14:45

Originally posted by archaic:
Well, its been real. Its been fun, its even been real fun once or twice. Alas, I think that this ship has finally sailed.

I've got to suicide somebody in Primary, then I think I'm packing it in. . .

Sianara.


Have fun man! I know you'll be back tho.
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mdevol Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 4:01:52

I will let time be the judge on this.

Either Pang flat out lied to the entire community or that entire speech by Silver was complete bullfluff.

Both of them cannot be right.

We will see....
Surely what a man does when he is caught off his guard is the best evidence as to what sort of man he is. - C.S. Lewis

Spoonman Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 5:36:29

too serious with a game... tsk tsk tsk

GodHead Dibs Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 7:33:10

Originally posted by Getafix:
Umm, how does that mind altering reality thing work?


i don't have a clue. think it's just a side-effect of drinking too much booze.
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KriSatZ Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 8:37:26

Nothing.

Edited By: KriSatZ on Nov 1st 2013, 19:59:22
See Original Post
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keivisuaL Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 9:08:33

Big Brother is DEFINITELY watching
Innocence is something we all forget. I haven't quite, I'm naive.

Getafix Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 9:17:01

OK Dibs.. Thought maybe it was applied reification, a form of brainwashing where a new consensual reality is created through belief. You learn that fluff in MBA class, like how to motivate the workers because they believe in the Internal accounting reward systems. How we could apply it to these madman I'm not sure ....

Better stick with tried and true lies, propaganda and frothy emotional appeals I guess. Voodoo should always be a last resort

Kinnin Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 16:08:01

Originally posted by mdevol:
I will let time be the judge on this.

Either Pang flat out lied to the entire community or that entire speech by Silver was complete bullfluff.

Both of them cannot be right.

We will see....


Everyone seems to forget. There are LOG files that Qzjul and the other game admins, as well as Pang, can view. These log files show the SQL Insertion attempts. And then you have the Mr.Copper IP addresses. IP Addresses don't release all that quickly. I've done networking and webmaster work. You can fairly well track someone via their IP addresses. This isn't a case of He said. This is more, we have evidence, we know you did it, here's the proof. And the accused going "Not guilty! I'm innocent!"

locket Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 16:44:39

Originally posted by mdevol:
I will let time be the judge on this.

Either Pang flat out lied to the entire community or that entire speech by Silver was complete bullfluff.

Both of them cannot be right.

We will see....

From what I know it seems like Copper is the only one that is able to be directly linked to the actual hacking. I dont think Silver even knows much about that sort of thing. I could be wrong but I guess time will tell.

mdevol Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 16:58:22

we will see...
Surely what a man does when he is caught off his guard is the best evidence as to what sort of man he is. - C.S. Lewis

pele Game profile

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Nov 1st 2013, 17:57:59

I agree with colo and makinso
Silver did a good post instead of adding wood to a fire thats to big already.

Havoc Game profile

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Nov 2nd 2013, 4:12:17

lol, and this fluff is why I retired...
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justtaint

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Nov 2nd 2013, 6:38:57

Originally posted by pele:
I agree with colo and makinso
Silver did a good post instead of adding wood to a fire thats to big already.


Having read the logs, you still believe that?

Silver isn't going anywhere. He'll just be more careful with his IP next time.
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Mr Snow

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Nov 2nd 2013, 8:09:26

I agree with Vic's main post above.

And justtaint, though you may not trust Silver for whatever reason you have, I still do.

mdevol Game profile

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Nov 2nd 2013, 8:38:16

One of the worst parts is everybody involved (it is a lot of them) think they can just let 2 people take the fall, walk away/lay low for a bit and everybody will forget about it and help them out when they return

They are sadly mistaken.

This involved the entire senior leadership of RD. They either took part in actually doing it, enabling it, covering it up, denying knowledge of it. Now they are attempting to pull a fast one on the server by playing the victim and "owning up" aka throwing a couple of the many people involved under the bus and pretending to be livid about it to appease the masses.

It wont be that easy. Anybody harboring these people to "lay low" for the time being are taking a major risk by doing so.

Surely what a man does when he is caught off his guard is the best evidence as to what sort of man he is. - C.S. Lewis

locket Game profile

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Nov 2nd 2013, 9:01:11

Where is there any evidence that is was the entire senior leadership of RD?

farmer Game profile

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Nov 3rd 2013, 0:48:27

Yahn

archaic Game profile

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Nov 3rd 2013, 1:34:37

Originally posted by mdevol:
One of the worst parts is everybody involved (it is a lot of them) think they can just let 2 people take the fall, walk away/lay low for a bit and everybody will forget about it and help them out when they return

They are sadly mistaken.

This involved the entire senior leadership of Laf. They either took part in actually doing it, enabling it, covering it up, denying knowledge of it. Now they are attempting to pull a fast one on the server by playing the victim and "owning up" aka throwing a couple of the many people involved under the bus and pretending to be livid about it to appease the masses.

It wont be that easy. Anybody harboring these people to "lay low" for the time being are taking a major risk by doing so.



Fixed that for you, lol. The more things change . . . .
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smlandau84 Game profile

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Nov 3rd 2013, 1:55:16

Originally posted by mdevol:
One of the worst parts is everybody involved (it is a lot of them) think they can just let 2 people take the fall, walk away/lay low for a bit and everybody will forget about it and help them out when they return

They are sadly mistaken.

This involved the entire senior leadership of RD. They either took part in actually doing it, enabling it, covering it up, denying knowledge of it. Now they are attempting to pull a fast one on the server by playing the victim and "owning up" aka throwing a couple of the many people involved under the bus and pretending to be livid about it to appease the masses.

It wont be that easy. Anybody harboring these people to "lay low" for the time being are taking a major risk by doing so.



This involved the entire senior leadership of RD? Get Pang to say that and I'll believe it.

GodHead Dibs Game profile

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Nov 3rd 2013, 7:40:42

based on a recent study of rats, the masses are pretty easy to please. you just have to give them a choice between Oreo cookies and crack cocaine, which results in them being perfectly happy to run around the maze choosing one or the other.
Dibs Ludicrous was here.

Mossad Game profile

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Nov 3rd 2013, 16:33:02

OMg < falls of chair....

crest23 Game profile

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Nov 3rd 2013, 16:58:49

Originally posted by Mr Snow:
I agree with Vic's main post above.

And justtaint, though you may not trust Silver for whatever reason you have, I still do.


I'm sure you do. Aren't you RD scum as well?
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macmd Game profile

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Nov 3rd 2013, 17:05:57

Originally posted by SAM_DANGER:
Now THAT is how you deal with something like this with some class. Quite a few people here could stand to take some lessons.

Silver, I don't know you well enough to know whether or not to believe you about your lack of involvement. If you know who I am, then on the one hand you know that I absolutely despised the old RD's cheating. But on the other hand, I was told months ago by someone whom I trust very much that you were one RDer I could absolutely trust.

If you're being honest, it is a shame to see you go. Not many people (especially here, it seems) would display the civility you displayed with this post. And whether or not you're being genuine, thank you for trying to reintroduce some sanity regarding this issue.


This.

Vic Game profile

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Nov 3rd 2013, 21:03:04

Oh shiiiit the old quote + "This." + walk away move !!!

Riddler Game profile

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Nov 4th 2013, 1:12:43

Pang, thanks for the info my bank account info and such were all different passwords but am changing them all just in case seeing as how they could possibly use my e-mail for that info. I have yet to get any e-mails etc about this but if I do I will come straight to you. Like you said this is a game and people bringing RL fluff to it is ludicrous. If I were you I would give lifetime bans to any and all suspected. Just my opinion. and again thanks for all you do sir!

Wu Game profile

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Nov 4th 2013, 18:52:19

Pang is ranked too high.

Pang Game profile

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Nov 4th 2013, 19:31:06

While you're all lauding Silver, he did log into many accounts with passwords furnished by Copper, probably mine included.

That should have been a big red flag for him to contact an admin, if he was wanting to do good things.

Also, he's still active inside the RD site as recently as 40 minutes ago. He sent me a private "I'm leaving" message as well last week, which I no longer believe to be valid -- just like Hanlong's. Even when called on it after that RD info was released on the weekend, he still stuck to his "I'm quitting" story.

So with YET MORE of these lies in mind, I did a quote post lookup on him for the last few days to confirm his statements, so I could eliminate him from this issue, and saw several things:
1) He is still trying to help manage the spin
2) He is still making up things about how I'm out to get him/RD (seriously, you are BEYOND retarded. I'd have deleted RD's site if I wanted to hurt/kill them as a whole.)
3) He discussed the idea of "outting" H4 as Mr Chartreuse to shame the admins (jokes on you, we already all knew.... and that's a horrible kept secret)

That's all that was relevant to this investigation/issue.

Honestly, grow up.

Edited By: Pang on Nov 4th 2013, 20:04:36
See Original Post
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smlandau84 Game profile

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Nov 4th 2013, 19:37:33

Im starting to put 2+2 together here.

Is Pang Mr. Silver?

H4xOr WaNgEr Game profile

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Nov 4th 2013, 19:38:23

Originally posted by Pang:
While you're all lauding
3) He discussed the idea of "outting" H4 as Mr Chartreuse to shame the admins (jokes on you, we already all knew.... and that's a horrible kept secret)


That is interesting to hear. Too bad I outed myself years ago.

martian Game profile

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Nov 4th 2013, 19:48:38


Is Pang Mr Silver? I've met both. Definately not. :P
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smlandau84 Game profile

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Nov 4th 2013, 19:59:45

Originally posted by martian:

Is Pang Mr Silver? I've met both. Definately not. :P


Not good enough. I don't believe it without proof.

GodHead Dibs Game profile

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Nov 4th 2013, 20:04:21

Originally posted by martian:

Is Pang Mr Silver? I've met both. Definately not. :P


were they both there at the same time? and if so, were you sober enough to see straight?
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anoniem Game profile

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Nov 4th 2013, 20:36:14

locket and duna showing their usual class :)
re(ally)tired

locket Game profile

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Nov 4th 2013, 20:47:45

Originally posted by Pang:
While you're all lauding Silver, he did log into many accounts with passwords furnished by Copper, probably mine included.

That should have been a big red flag for him to contact an admin, if he was wanting to do good things.

Also, he's still active inside the RD site as recently as 40 minutes ago. He sent me a private "I'm leaving" message as well last week, which I no longer believe to be valid -- just like Hanlong's. Even when called on it after that RD info was released on the weekend, he still stuck to his "I'm quitting" story.

So with YET MORE of these lies in mind, I did a quote post lookup on him for the last few days to confirm his statements, so I could eliminate him from this issue, and saw several things:
1) He is still trying to help manage the spin
2) He is still making up things about how I'm out to get him/RD (seriously, you are BEYOND retarded. I'd have deleted RD's site if I wanted to hurt/kill them as a whole.)
3) He discussed the idea of "outting" H4 as Mr Chartreuse to shame the admins (jokes on you, we already all knew.... and that's a horrible kept secret)

That's all that was relevant to this investigation/issue.

Honestly, grow up.

An admin should not go with speculation and "probablys" when saying things like this.

Helping manage the spin is not against any rules either. If you didnt expect people to think you were out to get RD then you are naive. Laf thought it and you didnt even delete them. I havnt heard anything to suggest he isng retiring and he has handled it more openly and with more class than Hanlong ever did where RD is concerned.