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locket:
Originally
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iScode:
Originally
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Cornfed:
But you're comparing TWO alliances in a war where there are more than TWO alliances.
If it was pure SoF vs SOL then those numbers would hold more weight.
Or are you saying the rest of the clans in the war have not had any influence on those numbers?
no not at all, monsters and rival maybe but Evo would be the most influential alliance in the war, despite being hit by laf they are performing very strongly.
However if you are ranking alliances and want to differentiate between one rank, then comparing individual alliances based soley on stats is the right thing to do.
Majority of the stats provided can only be influenced by the alliance in question, no outside force will change these facts.
Are you pretending to ignore things here? If Sol Evo and Monsters fight Sof and Rival and then Laf smashes Evo then the best Sol countries are more likely to be targeted than they were if Laf never entered. This leaves more top Sol countries dead which is 1) a loss of networth 2) a loss of turns and 3) takes away their ability to function as well in the war in hits/spies etc etc.
So tell me again how you can ignore what happened to their allies?
Ok then lets look at things your way. You saying that if laf didnt hit evo then sol wouldnt have has many defends, and therefor would have better output right?
Well SoF has already received, as per the stats, I listed way more damage than SOl and is still outhitting them, so even if SOL was receiving less hits, SOF is still outperforming them in this war.
Yes outside factors change the stats, but they do not change who is outperforming who in the war, the stats tell you this straight up, other factors may change the numbers in the stats, but even with adjusted numbers the new stats would still show SOF as out performing SoL.
My whole point with regards to restarting and restarts losing turns, as I advised, I died, i restarted and I am still one of the top hitters in sof. An alliances ability to pump out hits will still receiving damage is an indication of how good they are at war.
To claim 'oh sol lost so and so country therefor the stats would be different' is crap because if that sol country ether A) walled or b) restart and hit oop, then they would still be adding to the stats. An alliances ability to have members like this means they will out perform other alliances, so to claim the stats have been effected by outside factors, while being absolutely accurate (not many wars are not effected by outside influences), is completely ignorant. Regardless of the factors, how well your alliance performs with the situation they have on hand is all they can be judged on.
The fact remains that SOF is CURRENTLY outperforming SOL, even with sustaining more damage than SOL has. <--- this is fact, its not disputable, the stats do not lie.
Therefor to come to a conclusion, Servant ranking sol ahead of sof due to sol having a better war performance this set is biased.
Strip back everything, get down to the basics, and that is the point i am arguing, im not arguing that laf entering the war changed anything, im not arguing that receiving fa is fair or not or whether I agree with it (i simply pointed out that sof had not got outside fa which everyone keeps claiming...) I am arguing that based on the reasons given, in his intial post with regards to the rankings thats servants rankings are biased simply because he thinks sol is outperforming sof in THIS war, the current war we have in front of us, the war where the situations of fa and laf have already taken place before he did the rankings.
The reason I do this is because he then tries to claim his rankings are not biased, but the stats, and the current war situation prove this to be completely and utterly incorrect. Servant your rankings are biased, thats all im saying, and well if you disagree with me then fine, you are looking at it from a biased point of view as well, bassically everyone but me and only me who is looking at the rankings is biased, i am right, you are wrong *sticks fingers in ears* na na na na na nana na I cant hear you!!
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