You really showed us LCN.

We foreclosed on your retail store months ago, ZIP.

Expect a legit retal to follow shortly.

It's more than just you.

And now several Fisters are getting FAed by LCN... :)

Not offended, just abrasive.

1) We're not pacted.

2) We've actually fought wars over their non-pacted L:L retal policy (even on non-topfeeds).

3) Who does "FA contact" think he is just assuming I'm going to agree about a) it being a definition topfeed and b) going to give him alternate countries.

Naminef: Don't let the first thing out of your mouth be "Hey who do I take retals on?"

He was already 3/4ths of the way into FA talks by the time I replied.

You make me hard thinking about all the action my country will be getting next set. :D

Naminef: So in your mind, it's OK to go and farm a _completely unrelated_ country that has _nothing to do_ with the damage caused, without FA agreements?

Naminef: One problem, _There was no L:L agreement_.

Earth Watcher, will I see you later this set or the beginning of next? Because you seem to want _others_ to farm us, instead of you and your empty sack doing the deed. :)

Where's this "war" you AT idiots keep rambling on about? I haven't died once this set. I'm sad.

Like I said, and you quoted, if LCN had wanted to take L:L on #487 then I wouldn't have had a problem with it. I do have a problem with them farming me or any one of my members.

You're right, but your point is still insignificant. If I get 10,413 of 10,418 (99.952%) hits on the right targets, I'm happy.

And I'm sorry if LCN and you apparently are too stupid to see the benefits of land trading. It's a solid system. Especially in LCNs case since hey, they're all low defense. All they'd need is 1m jets and a PS to get 1-2k FREE ghost acres.

What DNH are you talking about? We did not request any DNH from anyone.

Soviet Lover: Stop talking and get on your knees!

Naminef: And?

Why would iMag trade land? Were already taking Fist's lunch money.

So iMag is DNH. What's LCN on?


Let's rephrase this!
2. despite the "war", and the _one sided_ dnh, 487 hit me. i didn't consider it a topfeed, but i did consider it inappropriate, given (a) the "war", (b) the _one sided_ dnh, and (c) the fact that 487 was in 350-hit diminishing returns -- _from Fist_ -- and never got out of massive diminishing returns until he was killed.


Your "FA contact" was like this:
"Hey youre at war, and your guy who hit us died. Who do we take retals on now?"
"Go land trade."
"Land Trade?"
"Yes hit eachother once or twice to get your land back."
*"FA contact" has gone offline*

As I told you Assassin, don't expect me to look out for you or your members interest. I'm here to look out for my brothers and sisters. That is why I did not offer myself nor one of my members up for you to farm (it's just not fair!).

Now, again, if you want to call that "FA talks" then that's cool, but you can use that little mind of yours and see that "FA contact" didn't fight very hard for your interests.


So basically your leadership told you to go hit iMag till you got the land back? With no such agreements in place? With so much arrogance ingame at the time, that you thought you could not be smacked just as hard for every bit of that (and much, much more) land back? Ballsy.


You took 4,258 actual (8,355 inc. ghost) acres from your hits on me. I fail to see how you didn't get all of that 3,588 acres back.

Any legitimate FA in this game would tell you that without prior agreements, your hits are to be treated as Landgrabs. Hell, I even sent you a retal message in referance to your first hit.


Possibly because farming iMag isn't (and didn't turn out to be) a good idea for you.


Wonder why?


Even if they did, you still looked suspicous to us.


You actually had $1.7m cash (with -2.5m expenses) on hand when we started the KR, with tech stuck on the market.


You ever heard of ghost acres? They're great for parties. And Beer runs.


If #487 had been alive and LCN had taken L:L I wouldn't have had an issue. But when LCN makes the decision to "take the land from iMag" I have to say no sir, I will not give in.

Hmm.. I don't see anything about asking to be on WarDNH in here maybe I should try in the policing thread...



Nope, not here either..

I'll try and keep this short and simple since it's time for bed.


a) You want to call it a topfeed? Come to the FA talks stating it was a topfeed not "hay i want a land donor because your dude died"
b)If you want to call it a "war" between us and Fist (more like theyre losing their virginity to our well lubricated Jets) then sure, ok.


Go on...


No one agreed that they would take _Authorized_ retaliations (ie land donor) on mine, or any other iMag country. #366 felt he should take it upon himself to come and grab me instead of using FA channels.


It wasn't a RoR at the time I took it. There were no agreements he should take land from my country or any other iMagger as stated before. These are LGs. I retaliated as so (look at the 2 minute response time).


No, #366 Farms some more, notice the 15 second window between mine and his hits? He was already at the attack screen ready for more.


By all means he should've been dead right then and there, but why waste the land he gained off me? The way I see it, we showed him he is not in control of the situation.


HE ruined HIS set. He could've went and farmed Fist for all I cared and they wouldn't have fought back. But no, he wanted to challenge us to a duel, which ultimatley led him to lose control of himself, thus he killed his country.


You're entitled to your opinion of SOL, but I do suggest you look up some facts and figures before you start making a fool of yourself.

Wait until the confirmation.

Since they didn't cry about getting FSed and subsequently killed, I respectively offer them a ceasefire in current hostilities effective immediately.

Dlance will confirm shortly (I guess).

PS. Galleri/Spawn/Smikke should learn from this.

Rogue died last set.

Rogue merged into Fist.

Fist dies this set.

Hm...

It took you a whole hour to roll over and die.

;)

So who the hell is gregg and why the hell was he hitting iMag for a couple days?

"iTAN
Honorary Duke of iMag

Vice President
Paradigm"

PDM admitting to running bots as well?

Confirmed.

Yeah spawn, listen to smikke.

lulz. Don't ttt a thread when its nothing but spam.

You're still hitting.

We wouldn't be farming you if we didn't hit you.

Denied.

spawn = smikke

Spawns so scared he can't even troll under his real name!

"Hey guys we're going to ruin LaF's netting set"

"Hey guys we've ruined LaF's netting set"

Win.


No you proved how inferior Fist is.

You're dumb. I mean seriously, my statistics are at least plausible. Yours don't even use reason.

I read the title as "This is why NBK sucks", which would also make a great discussion thread. :)

Apr-Jun 2010
iMag vs Fist (26 vs 20) - Win

Jan-Apr 2010
iMag vs TIE, Ely, RAGE, Rogue (26 vs 27, 13, 23, 7) - Win

Dec-Jan 2010
iMag vs LaF (31 vs 55) - Win

Oct-Dec 2009
iMag vs TIE, LCN (42 vs 22, 29) - Win

Aug-Oct 2009
iMag vs SOL (37 vs 63) - Win
iMag vs LCN (37 restarts vs 23) - Win

May-Aug 2009
iMag vs IX, SOL (44 vs 64, 56) - Win

Mar-May 2009
iMag vs MD (24 vs 29) - Win

Jan-Mar 2009
iMag vs IX, NA (server war) - Lose

Nov-Jan 2009
iMag vs IX (server war) - Win
iMag vs TKO (21 vs 16) - Win

Looks to me that we Win 90.9% of the time.

Is it embarrassing you spell like Scode?

Nov-Jan 2009
iMag vs IX (server war)

Our side won that one.

Jan-Mar 2009
iMag vs IX, NA (server war)

Revenge for IX and co. We lost but I hardly think that you attempting to pin the lose on iMag is a valid point to be made. It's a team effort, and honestly, we probably had PDM in on it that made us lose. :P

I honestly don't care if other clans think we're serious or not. The fact is, most of them know we will FS them for any reason (or none at all) just to keep them on their toes and out of our news.

Our idea of fun is to _have fun_. Fun can be accomplished many ways like fighting, dying, restarting, fighting some more, ruin netters sets, dying again. It's complicated. Our thinking is if we end the set with original countries leadership has failed (didn't get in a war which we were killed). So really, the goal is to die. Whether that means server wars, couple small wars, impossible odd wars (most common) we will die. Eventually.

Hope this clears up your understanding. ;)

How can one "win" (your definition) a war one hasn't fought?

I'll leave you to ponder that while you actually come up with some examples to back up your claims.

Meanwhile, here are a couple of mine.

Jan-Apr 2010
iMag vs TIE, Ely, RAGE, Rogue (26 vs 27, 13, 23, 7)

Dec-Jan 2010
iMag vs LaF (31 vs 55)

Oct-Dec 2009
iMag vs TIE, LCN (42 vs 22, 29)

Aug-Oct 2009
iMag vs SOL (37 vs 63)
iMag vs LCN (37 restarts vs 23)

May-Aug 2009
iMag vs IX, SOL (44 vs 64, 56)

Mar-May 2009
iMag vs MD (24 vs 29)

Jan-Mar 2009
iMag vs IX, NA (server war)

Nov-Jan 2009
iMag vs IX (server war)
iMag vs TKO (21 vs 16)

...I can keep going if you want me too.

"Ofc we haven't won anything. Last set was our first set back and we have Rogue for fluffs sake."

So you admit you suck. Good.

"iMag on the other hand has existed for 8 year straight now without achieving anything."

Almost 10 years now, and we have achieved plenty for being a mid sized alliance all that time.

"Basically you've stooped down to the level of declaring war on netting clans smaller than you for ridiculous reasons to justify your loss in whatever retarded war you pick next."

Not true. I'm sure everyone other than you agrees what you did is an act of war. As for other "netting" alliances we have hit in the past, they were usually well stocked, had more members, etc etc. I can only think of a few cases where we have warred someone smaller than us for no reason.

"And you will lose - like in the LaF war, you somehow still have countries with fluff defence levels and no SDI."

In the LaF war they were almost double our members, had lots of stock, lots of defense, etc etc. You are going to tell me that by us not having sizeable defense (which, we were almost fully offense) we would've won? The answer is quite simply, No. We planned to lose but it was a hell of a fun war to wage after they stopped buying up. In fact, that war taught some of our younger members the art of Lemming, which is an invaluable lesson to learn. :D

"Your phone list has been called average at best, which for a clan that wars every set is quite pathetic."

How does one rate a phone list? Are you trying to say we don't wall or something? Because 80% of the time a text is sent, whether or not the member cares enough/is at work/has phone on silent has nothing to do with the phone list itself. You have to understand we don't all have no life to sit on a comp all day waiting to wall. We have some very intelligent people that are working on doctorates etc that take massive amounts of personal time.

"You've got decent activity but your killrun leaders are still fluff (seriously, go to an Evo warchat run by Slagpit to see how it's done)"

Slagpit is an excellent war leader. My Bujke, to me, is still the best. I wouldn't give my War Dept to Slagpit or any one else but him.

"You'll lose to any clan around your size with a warring setup, but hey, at least now you have an excuse for sending all your missiles."

We hardly ever fight an "even" war so the jury is still out on that one.

"And hey, why would we be ashamed of losing to you? You're significantly bigger than us, we were netting and to be honest, it's our second set back - we haven't got anything set up."

Probably your last set too. Way to go out with a bang.

"And being mediocre has kept you guys in business for 8 years - rolling over and dying may well guarantee longetivity"

We've never rolled over and died.

"Soviet: Glad you're so proud to suck :) I mean dying every set would be understandable if you actually did something worthwhile while alive (see SOL during the big IX block vs. SOL block wars) but when you constantly get outclassed it just seems pointless. Why even play?"

I really had to lol at you for this one. We are proud to die. And we are proud to have fun while doing it. Our countries are worthless to us, we don't spend weeks babying it and all that other gay crap netters do. You know why? There's little you can do to scare us. Oh, you want to threaten death on us? Yay. You want to threaten suiciding us? Even better. We don't care because you know what, the moment you give us something to kill we're like kids at a theme park. That is what sets iMag apart from the "normal" alliances and "normal" people in this game.

As far as doing important stuff while alive, I don't see why we need to _all_ the time. We are here to have fun and you on here whining to the world about how we are big bad bullies that just raped your sister etc etc makes it that much more enjoyable. Hell, if you keep doing this well enough we might come back for seconds, you never know.

"Are imaginary numbers important enough an alliance to be allowed to post a war dec? Should be a separate board for them"

You just got pwned by what you believe is a spam tag basically. Congratz on that achievement (maybe it's Fist's only achievement?).

Finally I'd like to say smikke, of all the things you accuse iMag of being, why are you in such a suck alliance like Fist who really has not achieved anything in netting (you're suppose to be a netting alliance right?). I certainly don't remember you winning ANW, TNW, etc etc last set or the ones before. Must mean _you_ are the one that should be asking yourself, "Why are we so below mediocre?".

P.S. I hope there is at least some damage control coming from Spawn to your members. This rolling over and dying usually doesn't work out for the small alliances (Survival of the Fittest, I know.)

Most online retailers charge a restocking fee aswell...

smikke
New Member
Posts: 8 Apr 28th 2010, 23:24:48
"Soviet, I thought you already gave up on that excuse?"

Nope, we decided last set to war you because of it. It's the truth, we aren't IX and aren't going to smokescreen you with some BS reason. If we didn't have one, we would tell you. I remember numerous times in the past we dec'd for no reason and told them so (re: Dec-Jan war with LaF).

"I mean when you think about it, it's quite pathetic. One country FAed TIE, as Snarf and Spawn have said if we'd been told we probably would have done something about it."

I mean it's quite pathetic you would come here and cry about your impotence to wage war in a *gasp* war game. You don't want to war? Fine, I don't care, roll over and die like you are doing (quite well actually). We hit you for the stated reasons and nothing more.

"Looking forward to laughing at you after you lose the next one, unless you decide that another small netting clan has somehow "wronged" you in the past."

There has never been a single set in iMags history where we ended up with original countries. It almost happened 1.5 years ago, but IX helped us with that one 3 days before the sets end. And to tell you the truth, "losing" is according to perspective as well. We had this debate when we FSed LaF, but basically iMag never loses. If we die, we win. Whether or not you think the same way does not matter to me, but its a clue for you.

We didn't want an easy war. We wanted to kill you for FAing TIE.

If it just so happens you roll over and die, that's not my problem.

smikke
New Member
Posts: 5 Apr 27th 2010, 23:22:05
funny how quickly iMag's reason became:
"Well they're a netting clan so we might as well war them"

I fail to see anywhere in this thread an official iMag representative (or a member at that) say "they're a netting clan so we might as well war them"? We have given our reasons. You want to FA our enemies? Fine. But don't be surprised when we FS you.

"Good job iMag for warring a netting clan with 55% of your members, and all of them in a netting setup anyway. Well done indeed."

Fist had 20 members. We have 26. 20/26=77%.
You had 80m TNW. We had 88m TNW. 80/88=90.9%

Cry just a little bit louder for us, please. We enjoy it when you scream.

Oh, here's some proof for those who like stats. :)

http://i41.tinypic.com/dqg9xg.png

Syoto got beat up by a 7 year old.

HAHA.

jon316
New Member
Posts: 5 Apr 27th 2010, 19:44:02
They PS'd one of _our_ countries four times for 300 acres!!!

galleri
Member
Posts: 42 Apr 27th 2010, 19:49:21
who jon??? Fist or imag?

I'm just going to assume you're an idiot and cannot read. But, to answer your otherwise obvious question, Fist.

[00:40] <galleri[FIST]> I am gonna stalk your imag ass for the rest of your gaming career

Ooo!!.. Sexy!

Even if we didn't have a reason to war you, this makes it all worth it:

"Message from imagnum child rapists (#779) sent on 04/27/2010 02:25:43
Report this message
ur fluffing dead fluff ur whole alliance fluffing kiddy fluffers ull never ahve a good set agian if i find out where any of u live ur fluffed"

:)

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