You don't need to make a dozen threads about this.

min for SS: ~0.3%
max for SS: 100%

:P

There has been no proof presented to me that LaE's site or boxcar was hacked. There are a number of scenarios which can explain why the same ip address is there. Some are legal, some are illegal, and some are in-between.

As I've repeatedly said, we would be happy to work with your leadership to investigate the hacking and to take appropriate action ingame. That's going to be a separate issue from restoring the countries though.

"If someone anonymously sends us information, that person is probably either a whistleblower or a hacker. It is impossible for us to tell which."

We currently use whatever information we come across, with the option to punish the provider if we deem it necessary. I believe that is similar to how the US legal system works. The admins aren't the ones hacking into sites. We basically received an anonymous tip.

It is a nice thought to say that we will never use information obtained through immoral means, but that's a very grey area and it's very easy for the accused to claim that they were hacked.

Players can also have their username changed upon their request by sending an email to .

There was a similar situation like this before. An alliance leader demanded to see the proof against his alliance. After seeing the proof, he denied everything and he used that information to cheat better.

So what value is there in releasing detailed information privately? Maybe a few people have their curiosity satisfied, but someone could potentially use that information to evade our cheating detection systems, to blackmail individuals or alliances, or to make political attacks.

So for now, we are willing to do three things:
-Explain to the people who had countries deleted what went on in their accounts and to listen to their appeals.
-Work with LaE leaders to investigate any hacking that may have happened and if possible deal out appropriate punishment for it.
-Post a near full disclosure on the boards for everyone to read, with permission of iceman.

I don't necessarily care about things that are posted here because everything said here is for political reasons. I also don't read every single post on FFAT.

The admins discussed the issue of what information to release in detail. We determined that our responsibilities are to delete cheaters and to protect the integrity of the game. We are willing to work with lae leaders to investigate the hacking issue fully. That falls under the umbrella of protecting the integrity of the game. However, we are very hesitant to release information of what went on in players accounts, except to the players who own those accounts. So far, we have only received one email from a player, and he didn't use the correct email or state his username so we've been unable to help him.

I could post the complete set of evidence that led to the deletions in ffa and alliance. However, what would be the point of this? It would cause political damage to certain alliances and could quite possibly limit the ways we have of catching cheaters. It's not our job to make political attacks against other alliances. As far as I can tell, we'd be doing a lot more damage than good.

I will offer you guys this: if the president of LaE asks me to post the information we have on this board, I will. I don't actually know who that is offhand, so someone will have to verify his identity.

"I was told all of this stuff has been emailed to mods or discussed via aim, ip's and all. I'm guessing that isn't the case? "

All I know is that no emails have been sent and I haven't been told anything personally.

If someone anonymously sends us information, that person is probably either a whistleblower or a hacker. It is impossible for us to tell which.

If there is proof that a hacker did this and the hacker has an ingame or forum account, then the admins will look into ways of punishing the user. If you'd like to see something done about this, send us an email with the evidence that you have. Posting on FFAT will accomplish nothing.

SUBMIT TO fluff

Can you PM me the country number?

The bonuses are 12/18 hours for all servers.

I'm suspicious of everyone and more suspicious of certain alliances: if you feel that makes me biased, fine. But I was the last person to sign off on the LaE deletions.

I don't have a problem with anyone personally in NA or LaE, but I do have a problem with cheaters. I don't know what the exact overlap is between cheaters and those alliances, but I also don't know that for any other alliance.

The comments in this thread seem to be more about politics and preserving reputations, which is exactly why I said I was done posting before.

A "formal request" means to send an email to using the email address that you registered with.

jagernacht: we know why you aren't defending your friends and you are so confident that your countries don't match the same pattern as theirs. You are only solidifying your guilt in my mind.

This is going to be the last post I'm making about this subject. We bought back FFA so all players could enjoy it. It's honestly a shame that so much effort is being spent to circumvent the system and consequently the developers have to spend so much effort tracking things down.

Forum accounts are not tied to game accounts, so for specific information the owners of the deleted countries will need to make a formal request.

mrford, why do you assume that a single IP logged into them and how could you explain that if it was the case? The bottom line is that we don't like deleting countries, but the users involved know why they were deleted.

If your password was "bulletproof" that would suggest that it would be nearly impossible to hack or guess. You kind of shot yourself in the foot.

The evidence in this case was incontrovertible.

"you nuked llaar, when he had 1,100,000 countries"

:o

I am not thoroughly familiar with the terms of service, but if you don't click for the sake of clicking you should be fine.

Ok, that's fine. Who is this bias against? Who has been treated unfairly and who should be removed from the staff? What does aponic have to do with moderator bias?

You made a fairly strong accusation here.

Clicking ads for ingame rewards violates the ToS of the ad providers.

Dear TAN,

If you believe that your alliance was treated unfairly by ingame moderators, I suggest sending an email.

The old game had two turn bonuses and two acre bonuses and most players seemed to put up with that. However, as Pang said it has not been discussed in any matter.

"Have a Swirvey day!"

sounds like fightin' words...

I didn't need the disk but I understand where you're coming from. ODST was incredibly disappointing.

-Missiles: we use a proper random number generator now, which is why countries get more missiles than they did in the past.

-Spying: we didn't attempt to copy the formula because no one knew it and it was a total mess. I understand what you're saying: it's nice to get decent spies and to get most of your ops on the first try. But is that actually good for the game or fair to everyone else? Btw, normal ops don't add to spy DR.

DR: boxcar does not report DR accurately.

AVG NW: the average NW is based on 10 for non-team clan servers. For team, we don't enforce a limit. We chose to do that because single country tags play at a large disadvantage (no allies) and TNW seems like a more impressive goal than ANW. In addition, countries can't be kicked from the tag.

Mil expenses: this should have been fixed. Can anyone else confirm this?

Missiles: missile destruction formulas are the same.

Retal window: I may or may not agree, but that is a political issue to be decided by the players.

Facebook: the developers have been able to play turns in facebook for a few weeks now.

Accounts: there are around 1000 active accounts, but they are split between many games.

Thanks for the thoughts raheel!

Yeah, I believe it becomes available for download to those with ODST disks early monday morning pacific time.

Yes.

The beta is for Xbox 360 only.

Thank you.

Played around 35 games. Anyone have any questions or want to party up starting may third?

</secret gloat thread>

due to some technical issues. In addition, please create a country this set if you wish to play. Initial placement will be determined by your rank in the previous round, if you finished the round with an alive country.

Next set the transition between rounds should be a lot smoother.

There are a few former IXers in EVO besides me and martian currently plays in tag MARTIAN.

Pang, I can't see anything positive coming from this thread.

All messages, except those reported as inappropriate by players, are private between the sender and the receiver. In this case, the receiver, who happened to be my ingame ally, sent me the message.

Since you can't seem to have a normal conversation with someone with "administrator" in their game, I'll refrain from commenting further.

Pang has good intentions, but alliances should be held responsible for what they say. I don't see why we should necessarily avoid passionate trash talking. I don't have any direct knowledge of this particular incident though, but I can confirm what Xelah is saying. EVO and Dknights didn't fight as a favor to collab, basically.

LaF as a whole was accused. And yes, we're all aware that you're a troll without any integrity. Thanks for reminding us.

I am referring to messages that you sent out like this:

"FYI, I only accept retals land:land so you should cross fingers that there won't be a buyout of turrets if you decide to retal. I will take back every acre until we're even again, so if you want a war for your 244 lost acres, then go ahead and do it."

If you tried to enforce such a ridiculous policy on me personally, I would war/suicide on you. I hope you'd have enough integrity not to complain about it on the boards and order a kill run, because to be frank, sending out messages like that pretty much guarantees that you'll get suicided on.

As for individual skill in primary, part of it knowing when to stop grabbing.

As I understand it you were sending out messages telling people that they weren't allowed to retal you, Grimstad. What would have happened if they done so?

Can we please not pervert primary into a clan based game with kill teams and last minute FA packages? I'd like to see the best individually skilled player win instead of the one with the most friends.

I remember when EVO leaders accused LaF of sponsoring a suicider against EVO and SS was screaming at the top of his lungs for ironclad proof. Yet now that a suicider accusation has been made that's convenient to him, he believes it without a second thought.

Threads like this have nothing to do with righteousness or policies. They're just thinly-disguised, downright creepy personal attacks.

Anyway, where is your proof that I suicided on you?

Military expenses have been greatly reduced for high NW countries.

I believe that it's possible to get top ten but probably not possible to finish in first place. I would do it myself as a proof of concept but it would require tactics (that other top ten players use) that I'm personally not willing to use.

There was no jab intended. There are only so many ways to explain the same thing. To me it looked like my first attempt didn't work, so I tried a different approach.

The reason that I'd personally dismiss this idea right now (though note that I don't have absolutely authority over game changes) is that three recent game changes massively benefit CIs. It usually takes players at least a few resets to adjust to the new changes. We haven't even gone through a single alliance reset with the new game changes!

"Well of course"? You cited a TMBR finish as being superior to a CI destock in alliance.

I'm not sure what you want me to say here. If you consider what I posted to be obvious, then you should have finished in the top ten at least once over 13 years.

There are three main obstacles to a CI finishing in the top ten in the alliance server: the reset length, the server politics, and most players, even the "hardcore commies", not understanding how to play the strategy.

Commie indy has very specific strengths and weaknesses. It has the strongest start by far, has the least efficient stocking, and has the most efficient destocking (up to a point). If you want to finish top ten with a CI, you'll need to figure out a strategy that incorporates those strengths and weaknesses. Right now, the alliance server is one of the worst servers to attempt that on. If you play your CI the same way as you would an all-X farmer, you aren't going to finish top ten.

http://team.www.earthempires.com/topplayers?resetid=66

*pats martian on the head*

Sorry about that DM, I guess I didn't click send in the forum message :/

Research labs provide increasing returns to scale: the last 1% of labs adds more tpt than the first 1%.

In this situation the standard would be no MB theo, so he'd get

(2 025 * 0.8 * 0.9025) / 6.5 = 224.93 $/NW

destocking.