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Apr 30th 2024, 15:32:09

no doug.

I did not make the PDM tag Paradim intentionally. it was a legitimate typo.

I originally had no intent of any of this happening.

Leto and I did not plan anything.

You pushed me to breaking point, and I walked.

I have told all PDM members they are welcome in the Paradigm tag.

Further, that we will not launch any hostile actions on those who choose to remain PDM.

We will not ask any alliances who have signed pacts with PDM to break those pacts, as that would be bad faith, and we do not operate that way.

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Apr 29th 2024, 13:55:23

Drow will continue to speak his mind.
Have no fear of that ;)

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Apr 29th 2024, 13:16:57

more accurately, I should have titled this PDM announcement

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Apr 29th 2024, 12:51:47

As of now, I am no longer president of doug's PDM.
Please direct all contact to doug and Happy.
Regards
Drow

Edited By: Drow on May 1st 2024, 3:32:47
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Apr 29th 2024, 11:30:06

oh man, cathankins, your twists of logic are hilarious.

you suicided on evo and got killed and blame superfly, someone who has nothing to do with evo, for doing so.

then claim "bullying" when evo's pacted allies do what pacted allies do, and come to their aid.

meantime, you attempt to tell Evo that if they don't kill superfly, you'll keep suiciding on them.

Who is actually the bully here?
The person choosing to attack a third party unrelated to the initial issue, in a half assed attempt to try and force them to do the dirty work, or the alliances who are standing up for their friends?

Honestly, the only difference, is that unlike most real life bullies, you're just really bad at it.




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Apr 29th 2024, 1:12:55



New theme song for Leto ;)

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Apr 29th 2024, 0:38:54


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Apr 29th 2024, 0:15:36

Originally posted by TAN:
On behalf of cult leader Drow, all your land are belong to us.


All their base are belong to us!!

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Apr 28th 2024, 13:37:55

Beta males?

is that a Furry thing, or a fish thing?
I'm curious...

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Apr 28th 2024, 13:35:29

couple of people decided to suicide on Evo, and evo's allies came to their defence.
Blackhole ticked off Jouster, and Jouster made him dead in return.


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Apr 27th 2024, 8:29:19

Originally posted by Coalie:
Drow it saddens me to see that you are making backdoor deals with bhole. Didn’t bhole and Doug backdoor each other? Look at what happened.


Ive kept my dealings with BlackHole very public. And come down to: "play clean, leave Paradigm alone, and we don't have to spend the rest of the set killing you"

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Apr 26th 2024, 12:23:50

Important information:
tAN is head of fluff
that is all.
Carry on!

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Apr 26th 2024, 12:19:33

Originally posted by BlackHole:
How do you know I played clean on the restarts?


you didn't get deleted in alliance again for the rest of the set, and you made an agreement with me publicly to play clean and not hit PDM in return for a DNH.
Are you saying that you chose to cheat anyway?

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Apr 26th 2024, 11:45:02

He ran multis on teams.
He was proven clean in alliance.
Yourself however, not so much, you got deleted yet again last set for multi running.
Yes, you played clean on the restarts after that deletion, which is why I have been as good as my word on not hitting you, but still.

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Apr 26th 2024, 11:41:48

But does he swallow, that's the important question!
*runs*

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Apr 26th 2024, 11:40:54

Fair :)
Good to see the tag back in the game ;)
I remember fighting both against and alongside yas way back in the day

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Apr 26th 2024, 7:08:01

genuinely an old TIE player, or just someone spam tagging?

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Apr 26th 2024, 4:05:15

Originally posted by TAN:
This may come as a shock to most of you, but I didn't list my country above, this is in fact mine:

The Arabian Nightmare (#481)

*surprise pikachu face*


Lies! That's my country!! 🤣

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Apr 26th 2024, 2:00:00

Originally posted by Josey Wales:
We did not attack you people.

Why did you attack us?


probably because you attacked someone they're pacted to?

That's how defensive pacts work...

If someone has an LDP or FDP with another alliance, and that alliance gets attacked, they come to their aid.
You should know this by now man.

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Apr 26th 2024, 1:56:59

Originally posted by galleri:
Originally posted by Drow:
Originally posted by BlackHole:
Drow - I didn't delete any of my messages.


I think it's REALLY amusing you're accusing me of being a liar, or half-truth teller, when you know you are openly lying right now, haha.


And you're right, Leto did post in that screenshot! I hadn't realized he changed his name on the server. He's not super saiyan or whatever.


That's not the information I have.
You were getting into Leto as much as he was getting into you.

Can you re-word this final sentence....or did I just "TIL"?


Nah, I'll leave it like that, it's funnier

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Apr 26th 2024, 0:09:12

Originally posted by BlackHole:
Drow - I didn't delete any of my messages.


I think it's REALLY amusing you're accusing me of being a liar, or half-truth teller, when you know you are openly lying right now, haha.


And you're right, Leto did post in that screenshot! I hadn't realized he changed his name on the server. He's not super saiyan or whatever.


That's not the information I have.
You were getting into Leto as much as he was getting into you.

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Apr 26th 2024, 0:06:31

Did I forget to lock the spirit cabinet again?
That's tan's only spiritual leading around here 🤣

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Apr 25th 2024, 8:21:24

Originally posted by BlackHole:
Drow - I don't know why you're so determined to prove me a liar, when I've shown time and again to be honest.


Leto did delete his messages.... If you don't believe me, go through the chats on EE discord from that time yourself. You can see us talking to Leto, without his messages being there, lol.


You're gonna make yourself look bad bro. I don't tell lies.


You also don't tell the whole truth.
But that's OK, that's what AT is for after all

You also missed the part where you deleted a bunch of your own messages before taking your screenshot, in order to make things appear different to the original context.

I guess your desire to go after someone new since your "win" over milkman (got him deleted for multis in teams, demonstrated he was playing clean in alliance, whilst getting yourself deleted repeatedly) means you're happy to sink to any depth.

There's still a post by leto in your very screenshot tho 🤷‍♂️
Not my fault or problem if you can't see it.

Short form, if you give it out, be prepared to take it.

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Apr 24th 2024, 11:43:45

Originally posted by Josey Wales:
Originally posted by Drow:
the whole problem with Josey's proposal, is that it assumes that no one will engage.
The sad reality is that people ALWAYS engage.
Further, that it gives drivel a veneer of legitimacy.

It is, as they say, the old paradox of tolerance.


I should have commented on this detail. You are correct Drow. People will always comment but ultimately TFMOIs will prevail and good will triumph over evil.

How long to you think people will engage with some, unless to rake them over the coals, if that person is engaged in racism?

That wouldn’t last long.


Except that TFMOI's don't prevail, nor does good triumph over evil.
we have example after example of this being the case.
If it did, Racism would no longer exist in any form.
nor would sexism.
nor would a massive number of problematic issues, because we would have reasoned them out of existence with TFMOI's (TM).

The reality is that the world simply doesn't work like that, much as we wish it did.

We still have neonazis in the world, who spout the crap Hitler espoused, and hail him as a hero, and people lap it up.
We have politicians who literally blame "dem others (insert chosen ethnic, religious, or other minority group here) " for basically everything, and they get swept into the one place they shouldn't be, power.
Because rational debate etc doesn't work. It requires both parties to be rational.

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Apr 23rd 2024, 10:39:07

Originally posted by BlackHole:
Two separate instances.


hahahahah - I tried to go pull the chat from Discord. Apparently old Leto is trying to cover his tracks, he deleted ALL his messages from that day. No worries though, you can tell from context with the way everyone reacted that he said some foul fluff about my wife.



https://imgur.com/a/ViQfOo5


You say Leto deleted all his messages from that day, and yet, funnily enough, there's one right there in the middle of your screenshot.
You slipped up yourself this time dude.
and there's no evidence, even from context, that anything was said, all of those comments could have been reactions to your own initial comment in the screenshot. Especially given that Empyrean is there telling you to calm down.

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Apr 23rd 2024, 10:31:16

Originally posted by archaic:
We had it at the MKR ES Site, not sure if anybody ever posted it on GT. If Comwood wanted to dig it up he could probably find it. Empyrean might also have a copy of it, I'll ask him when he arises from his most recent drunken stupor.


Sadly, ES is very, very dead.
If memory serves, having been around at the time of its final demise, there was basically a fatal hardware error which caused its end, and the data itself was lost, which was why Commy couldn't get it properly back on line.

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Apr 23rd 2024, 10:29:38

the whole problem with Josey's proposal, is that it assumes that no one will engage.
The sad reality is that people ALWAYS engage.
Further, that it gives drivel a veneer of legitimacy.

It is, as they say, the old paradox of tolerance.

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Apr 23rd 2024, 4:42:10

Originally posted by Sov:
Can’t use Discord because news is troublesome on that platform. For walling I use IRC highlights.


Going to admit, that whilst Milk's bot was still in our disc server, it was actually pretty consistent for the most part. there were admittedly occasions where it was behind, but mostly it was on point.

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Apr 23rd 2024, 2:18:46

milkman is not the leader of M4D though...
that would be Leto.

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Apr 23rd 2024, 2:17:30

Originally posted by Lord Milk:

wait, have we got our lines crossed here?
you seemed to be implying that Leto got kicked out of his alliance.
We removed Milkman for running multis in alliance, yes.



When did I run Multi's in alliance? cuz that never happened
Doug killed me in an attempt to appease Blackhole
I like you drow but lets air that out now


Poor wording:
we removed you from paradigm in alliance for being deleted for multis in teams.

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Apr 22nd 2024, 23:41:49

Originally posted by TAN:
Drow spells gud.

I DO speel gud! it's even in my forum sig!

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Apr 22nd 2024, 23:33:53

Originally posted by VicRattlehead:
Originally posted by BlackHole:
Vic...

You're on the side of the suicides, lol. I am saying that we stand in opposition to the suicides and bullies.


You seem like a cool guy, welcome back! I think you might have gotten roped into a situation you didn't agree to though. Check with your leader Leto. He seems to be setting the stage to bully small clans like Stone and Rage, while being aided by the self proclaimed suicides with Josey and co.

Makes sense cause Josey and Leto go way back together in PDM.

It's a shame what they did to pdm, leaving it in shambles.


NA and PDM were besties for a long time. When we were getting gangbanged by SOL's coalition repeatedly, PDM were basically our only allies. So literally everyone in M4D goes way back with PDM.

Now that I think of it, is Pally still around?

Anyhow given the history I've laid out for you, I think you can appreciate that I am happy where I am right now and not willing to make any changes to my POV based on AT threads.

Related, if you don't know about it, find someone to fill you in on the sordid history of RD. Literally every tag is dirty, they infiltrated all of them and cheated inside them.

Originally posted by Josey Wales:
Originally posted by VicRattlehead:
Anyway, I will be ready for suiciders. That's been my job more sets than not in 1a, kill teams and retal teams. I don't like to stock and jump most sets so I get to deal with the JW&Cos of the world. I've only gotten t10 a few times and it's been ages.

So bring it, I guess?



VicRattlehead,

JW&CO has no intention of suiciding M4D. Not in the cards. End of story. Nor do we have any pacts with M4D.

That said, there is no reason why M4D shouldn’t cleanse the Server of viruses. With extreme prejudice.


Well that's good to know. Good luck in your fluff stirring then.


Palli is still around, still here in PDM man. pop by our discord sometime :)

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Apr 22nd 2024, 13:34:12

thanks Patience.

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Apr 22nd 2024, 13:26:56

Originally posted by BlackHole:
Originally posted by Drow:
Originally posted by BlackHole:
Ko - I think you know the answer to that question.

They are playing the way the game is intended to be played. And I'm doing what I do.


It's funny you bring up evidence though. Last time someone accused me of not having receipts (Leto) he got kicked out of his alliiance and ended up building a brigade of Multis on Team and then being too scared to war the clans that were kicking his face in every set.

You wonder why I'm calling him out here? It's because he's STILL not admitted to harboring and supporting cheaters, but wants to pretend to be this morally superior clan leader here. I'm glad he wants to war and play the game was intended, I suspect what he really wants to do is pick on weaker/smaller clans though. What do you want to bet that these guys don't pick a fight with anyone the same size as them?

Bullies and cheaters, scared of a fair fight. It's what they do on team, and it's what they'll do here.


Not impressive to me.


Not sure which alliance you are claiming he got kicked out of here...
he certainly wasn't kicked out of Paradigm /shrug




Oh wow, ya'll supported the cheating too? Shoot, Drow. I thought you had kicked him out because you didn't like the cheating/multi'ing that was occurring. It made me respect you a bit....

I'm taking that respect back!


wait, have we got our lines crossed here?
you seemed to be implying that Leto got kicked out of his alliance.
We removed Milkman for running multis in alliance, yes.

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Apr 22nd 2024, 12:50:00

Originally posted by Suicidal:
Bone us


*points bone at suicidal

There you go, you got boned :)

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Apr 22nd 2024, 12:44:40

and I just noticed I typo'd the thread title as well.
fluff but I am doing well!

Obviously not enough alcohol in my hybrid caffeine/alcohol system, and too much blood...

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Apr 22nd 2024, 12:43:23

Originally posted by SakitSaPuwit:
You make things go boom?


I believe that if you prod them the wrong way, they just might!

calling Jouster's lance a twig for example, will usually do it ;)

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Apr 22nd 2024, 11:42:05

We are using the tag PDM this set.
#467 is a fake Paradigm tag.
Sadly, I misspelled when creating our alliance name, so that is on me.

But PDM is still the tag of the genuine Paradigm alliance.

Drow
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Apr 22nd 2024, 11:39:35

Originally posted by SirJouster:
M4D Notice of Intent

With the start of the new reset, it is highly recommended that all player countries, tagged and untagged, proceed with building adequate defense. It is our intention to take advantage of all of your big juicy landfat countries and take those unprotected acres for our own.

We will do so honorably, expecting retaliatory attempts which will be accepted per our retal policy.

For information on our retal policy or to contact leadership please visit http://m4d.ghqnet.com/. You may also find access to our discord channel there.

The following pacted alliances are exempted from this policy:

PDM
MERCS
EVO

We wish everyone an exciting and successful reset

M4D Leadership


Good luck gents!

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Apr 22nd 2024, 11:39:06

Originally posted by BlackHole:
Ko - I think you know the answer to that question.

They are playing the way the game is intended to be played. And I'm doing what I do.


It's funny you bring up evidence though. Last time someone accused me of not having receipts (Leto) he got kicked out of his alliiance and ended up building a brigade of Multis on Team and then being too scared to war the clans that were kicking his face in every set.

You wonder why I'm calling him out here? It's because he's STILL not admitted to harboring and supporting cheaters, but wants to pretend to be this morally superior clan leader here. I'm glad he wants to war and play the game was intended, I suspect what he really wants to do is pick on weaker/smaller clans though. What do you want to bet that these guys don't pick a fight with anyone the same size as them?

Bullies and cheaters, scared of a fair fight. It's what they do on team, and it's what they'll do here.


Not impressive to me.


Not sure which alliance you are claiming he got kicked out of here...
he certainly wasn't kicked out of Paradigm /shrug

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Apr 21st 2024, 0:44:40

Originally posted by Slagpit:
Originally posted by Steeps:
Not a fan of the dead country live profile link. In active wars this will allow the other side to actively track who the owners are of the restart because the restart lists the previous country, then that previous country will have the link to the profile.


How would this information change the way that war is conducted?


Allows alliances to target specifically target players on their offline times, making it far harder to attempt to wall/defend.

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Apr 20th 2024, 4:22:48

Some great finishes there, Evo dominating again with the top 6 places, so congrats in order to: En4cer, Tertius, Cordy, LightBringer and Rossoneri!
Monsters the first non evo at #7, congrats to cyref, then Syzygy and Sphinx for PDM in #8 and #9 respectively, with crackhead from monsters rounding out the top 10.

congrats to all!


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Apr 20th 2024, 4:16:53

Sakit! dude!!
I did try to talk you down man :/

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Apr 15th 2024, 13:30:30

Originally posted by EmpyreanMKR:
Typical
Bye Josey.
Good job on your 10 min war.
This game is exactly how I remember.

What killed it waa bots.
Get rid of the bots and let clans grab each other and fight and do diplomatic crap. Like the real world.

Advertise it as such.
That is all.

If every current player did a five day, $1 per day ad on Facebook, we would get some new players. The trick is getting all of you to spend $5 on a game you're sad is dying still, but you're not willing to spend $5 bucks on ads


The game was down to sub 250 actual players when bots were added. Bots aren't the issue either 🤷‍♂️

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Apr 14th 2024, 12:28:21

Originally posted by Josey Wales:
Originally posted by Drow:
Originally posted by Josey Wales:
Well…. I gave it a shot. I tried to fight in this War game but at a certain point Warring isn’t allowed.


You Old folks are cooking your own Goose. You say that you want new players but how’s that going to work? LMAO.

Some new player signs up only to be raped down to 500k NW by the bullies of the game.

Then he tries to fight back. But he can’t.

You think that “New” player is going to stick around?

Good luck with that.

So it’s a safe retirement home. Where old gamers go to nibble on each other then fade away.

Could be my last set.



If you can't hit them, they also cannot hit you.
No one is out to get you, these are rules that have been in the game since basiy day dot.
12x NW or 1/12 NW for humanitarians, 2x NW or 1/2NW for GDI.
That's how it works, that's how it's always worked.
You've played this game long enough that you should know that by now man.



Yeah, And look at where we’re at because that’s worked out so well.

Whatever. I don’t care anymore.

Last Set. Last Post.

To: Leto, Cath, Doug, Galleri, Taker, & Blade:

I wish you fair winds and sunny skies.

R.I.P. Earth Empires


We are where we are because this a 30yo text based browser game which has had minimal advertising for decades, and because people have gotten actual lives, and moved away from the game. I was here when Paradigm for example, was over 100 members strong. Irc bots for news feeds were a thing, so were clan hosting websites with various calculators (so basically all the modern tools or the beginnings of). Difference is, we were virtually all teenagers or in our early 20's way back then, and had the time to be able to dedicate to the game.
The core game rules were still the same, and the politicking and whatnot was also 1000% there.
It's not "oh no how dare there be an arbitrary 12x / 1/12 limit on attacks putting people off the game".

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Apr 13th 2024, 14:15:20

Originally posted by Josey Wales:
Well…. I gave it a shot. I tried to fight in this War game but at a certain point Warring isn’t allowed.


You Old folks are cooking your own Goose. You say that you want new players but how’s that going to work? LMAO.

Some new player signs up only to be raped down to 500k NW by the bullies of the game.

Then he tries to fight back. But he can’t.

You think that “New” player is going to stick around?

Good luck with that.

So it’s a safe retirement home. Where old gamers go to nibble on each other then fade away.

Could be my last set.



If you can't hit them, they also cannot hit you.
No one is out to get you, these are rules that have been in the game since basiy day dot.
12x NW or 1/12 NW for humanitarians, 2x NW or 1/2NW for GDI.
That's how it works, that's how it's always worked.
You've played this game long enough that you should know that by now man.

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Apr 13th 2024, 10:34:07

bump!

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Apr 13th 2024, 10:33:32

Originally posted by galleri:
Originally posted by Josey Wales:
What’s the use of even playing this game if your not going to let me attack?


That mechanic has been around since 1842.
What is the point of you playing if you can't even remember simple game mechanics?
C'mon Josey.. don't fail us now.


This. get to within 12x the NW of your target...

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Apr 12th 2024, 12:16:58

Originally posted by Slagpit:
I got rid of the UNAP stuff because I don't care that much about it, but I don't plan on budging on the easier recruitment. Players create new accounts every day on this site but most don't stick around for very long. I am hoping that automatically throwing them into friendly clans improves our conversion rate.


Forgive me, but I don't see how not needing the password to join a clan encourages players to play?
The whole point of the tag/pass is that players then go and get involved in the community of the clan they choose to join.

Perhaps have a link on the login page, or in the clans window, with wayhs to join a clan,a nd how to get in contact with a clan to join etc?

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