TC, I wont even bother reading what you say. Leave the game, I am not even sure why you are not PERMA banned.

Really talk more though, please. Defend your actions. Ruins Lafs name more. RUIN the work Laf has been trying to do to save the situation. Please do it. Continue. Go on and speak more. Say how you were wronged.

I swear anything you say at this point besides "Sorry" will feed peoples reason to hate Laf.

What completely and utterly pissed me off about these events is that everything said could of been taken out of context in some way or another. That if i said something on a whim just because to someone in private, it could of been snatched up and used again me JUST because.

Its like having a private journal of your thoughts and feelings taken from you and shared with the entire world.

I believe you Angel1 100%.

*huggles*

I think Sof wants to stick by Laf.

That is Dragon BTW. :D

I am not sure how far back they go.

I think he said he toke spy ops but didnt have them saved.

Feeling the heat?

Hey Bolty what alliance are you in atm? :O

Yes they will.

Not me thats for sure.

H4 I am sure you can understand that there is a massive trust issue occuring right now. I think its right for us to point out these issues that we have noticed over time because of the current events. In no way we want Laf to burn for individual mistakes, but it can not be ignored that Laf as a whole acted based on information that has been provided through ill gotten means.

Now the level of that information being provided is still unknown, but we are not going to stop pointing out things we have noticed just because you dont agree with our prospective of the situation.

We are pissed. We have speculated this has been happening for a few resets now based on incidents that we have observered. We wont keep quiet on it now that the flood gates are opened.

Edit: Funny Maki about what you say that actions speak louder then words. That is what Laf as a whole has been telling me these past several months.

Thats not what was said, Laf can still retal hits but through 1:1.

"SOL revokes all forms of L : L retals on LaF. LaF acting on retals through L : L policy will be responded to as counting over retaliating hits."

Ivan why are you defending the current actions so readily? I mean, I understand defending the members of Laf who were not involved in the current actions, but I dont understand what you are doing right now.

No one is saying any cheating is right in any form, and wounds that were created from past cheating were dault with. This is brand new wounds that Laf now has to deal with themselves.

No tdoung.

Considering the information Hanlong had access too during the cease fire talks during this time, this is the EXACT responce that should be given.

We started doing C:C L:L 80% because of laf in the first place, and we were planning to stop doing this for alliances not pacted with SOL next reset since our CF pact with Laf was broken no matter what.

So again, just no.

SOL responce Confirmed.

mmm

Troll be trolling.

How DARE you compare this to someone passing away. That is HORRID! HOLY fluff.

Go fluff yourself.

-_-

/Cheers Jiman SOL

Pang keep up the hard work on your life. Visit once in awhile. You have done a great job.

Trust is a very fragile thing.

Regarding those who broke the communities trust (both Laf members and other alliances), I was told this by a few individuals.

"They might just be individuals but they still represent your alliance and in the end what they do and say represent your alliance fully."

I want to believe in Son Goku because I know him to be a trust worthy individual, but this really wipes a massive stain on all of Laf, like it or not.

Represenatives of Laf toke certain types of actions that should of been noticable by others involved in Laf yet nothing came out until Pang made his post. I find the current events and explanations lacking some logic and there is a long list of explanations needed. Sadly not everything is going to be provided for us.

What I see Laf doing right not is quickly cutting the limbs off of those involved in the public eye and keeping those who were not caught. This is what I think at this present moment, like it or not.

This isnt a game mistake where a player lies to another leader. This isn't an alliance breaking a FDP with another alliance just to hit them.
This is a breach in trust and horrid on the real life scale and goes further beyond then anything anyone can do in this game.

This is how I currently see this situation.

Thank you for ruining our gaming expereince.


EDIT:

Since the current events has taken place and revealed, its hard not to put one Laf member in the same category as another.

I feel that Laf has taken certain actions recently because of what knowledge they have gained.

I feel pretty violated by Laf right now, and not in the good way.

It was unfortunate that Sof was driven from the game by multies. No one likes to be attacked over and over again for no reason, while having their game play disrupted by bots.

I have no idea why people are mocking Sof for this. I am sure it was one of the hardest choices for Sof leaders to make during that time.

Completely agree Angel1.

If i was in the guys shows I would do what ever in my power to protect my home and those in it. Hell, If someone broke into my house and threatened my GF Id go completely Berserk to protect her.

Lol. Glad I have some tanks :O

I doubt the Avengers will even be close to the Dark Knight 'movies'.

You know spoilers are not real when you put it right next to the freaking word.

yay :P

What about me? :(

O_o

I like Pangy's smilies :(

Lol, who called you at 4am to tell you that you died :O

Who is perfect? We are human. That is why pencils have erasers. I hope people are not judging SOL on that basis alone. I hope no one is judging anyone on that. Should I judge all of SOF because of your posts Flamey? I doubt it. Its your right to have your own opinion, as it is with mine as well.

When I read your post Flamey I see that you have taken every situation that has occured recently and gave the most negative possible prespective, no matter the circumstance or facts provided. This is unfair to do to anyone. I wont defend every single point as I have already spoken on most subject you bring up and provided proof as well. I do hope people can look at every situation that has happened and make up there own mind on the subject. That isnt to say that a negative view point isnt needed, but both negative and positive when coming up with what they think about something.

You do make a few points which I agree do agree with.
SOL is a warring alliance and we do snjoy to war.
I do think SOL has in the past has gotten into some wars that didnt have enough purpose or reason to be in.
Lastly, yes, we are mad at Laf right now. For good reason (obviously).

What I want for SOL is wars with more reason and purpose. This reset we went into the set with the idea of not being agressive, to only come in when an ally called us in. We would ask that the war had reason and purpose, and that if we came in it would be to even the war out. We then came up with the idea to war SOF since: 1) it didnt seem like any allies would needed us and 2) we saw Sof may start to be bored with there war with PDM. This concept was only at the very starting stages sadly before the opportunity to presure it faded with the upcoming events (as I told Chevs, I hope Sof and SOL can get into a 1v1 war. I really enjoy fighting Sof and have a tremendous amount of respect for you guys.)

I feel war this set does not contain reason nor purpose. I am sure a lot of Laf (as well as others) believe this war has its reasons, but from my prespective there is zero. That is my opinion.

No matter what though, I want to avoid wars that have no meaning and uneven wars as best as possible.

In the end what I say for all of SOL doesnt matter because really, all that matters is what SOL actions are... and this concept goes for everyone.

I am still teching in my mind too :(

I cheated in monopoly once >.>

Best Post of the day.

Like a boss?

Communication is key to everything.

*protects iscode* MINE!

Cookies for all!

Good to hear.

*eats popcorn*