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Aug 24th 2020, 13:13:28

Originally posted by Ektar:
One could say “retalling” someone with over 50 million turrets and 145% weapons tech over 200 acres is an overreaction, yes?

Agreed, it's pretty uneven. There's reasons it doesn't make sense and then there's reasons it does.

First, there's the aspect of hitting dangerous countries in the first place. If you then make it difficult for them to retal for awhile, does that mean they're not entitled to hit back anymore? I wouldn't think so, unless you can run all the way until the reset ends. Then there's obviously GDI where one hit equals one hit, no matter how old or small it is. That's simply a reality that the meta game has to arrange itself around, and that's caused 1:1 retals to become fairly standard procedure. Finally, there's the land at stake. If someone can snatch 5000 acres when land is scarce, then regardless of whether it's a huge break or an old retal, a player competing to win is not going to want to leave that opportunity on the table.

Now that all makes perfect sense, but I'll still readily admit, if you take a step back again, and look at it from the 10,000 foot view, making a 5000 acre profit off an old meaningless 200 acre hit absolutely is rather absurd, no question.

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Aug 24th 2020, 14:02:11

who is this ivanka identity? he has stopped grabbing v early and i thought he went to start stocking somehow.. so he was totally focused on the entire set trying to prevent getting a retal and hence the stop in his hits?

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Aug 24th 2020, 15:23:38

It's part of the game, I've been on both sides, sux that he self deleted, I opened myself up for retals as soon as I stopped grabbing, it happens.
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Aug 24th 2020, 15:31:39

Originally posted by Ektar:
One could say “retalling” someone with over 50 million turrets and 145% weapons tech over 200 acres is an overreaction, yes?

Looks like no retals for moonshiner & the boys.

(-:


By those standards I could go indy, grab all the best guys early for a few hundred acres each, and not worry about future retals because they would get so much more on the retal. The standard here is 1:1 or war. Ivanka essentially pushed the game off the table because they were starting to lose. You're free to quit whenever you want though so no big deal.

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Aug 24th 2020, 15:33:51

Originally posted by DeLpHiNuS:
who is this ivanka identity? he has stopped grabbing v early and i thought he went to start stocking somehow.. so he was totally focused on the entire set trying to prevent getting a retal and hence the stop in his hits?


Yep, solely focused on preventing retals.

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Aug 24th 2020, 15:55:50

It is not always possible to strike back with "ss" or "ps" ... Yes, and development can be long-term, when the real profit will be after a while, and early, like the indie communist.
A communist in the first phase of development, can make a seizure and answer him with the same coin, it is sometimes impossible. Therefore, the formula 1 cc ps = 1 cc ps, I think is not correct.
The answer must always be tough. Even when several countries attack me, I leave no one unanswered. And I always start with those who can get into the top 10.

Edited By: MILORD on Aug 24th 2020, 16:12:13
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Aug 24th 2020, 16:08:46

I was getting bored anyway. Military not selling.

If it has to boil down to the self satisfaction of 1 or the other. 1 getting the retal or 1 not getting retalled. I lost 1 but won 3 others. :-)

I actually didnt even remember hitting CLAP. I was focused on moonshiner, bee po, and the other D name country.

I also played on a whim, with no allies. Seems like most of you people have perennial allies(for the most part). It was also my first time playing primary(minus 1 set many moon ago where i noobed out quick).

I am having this little weird self satisfaction of not allowing these self righteous folks retal me haha. Maybe next set ill play for a month and top feed a bunch of the self righteous ones then stonewall & delete 72 hours later. Maybe i can single handedly change this culture. 😂

IhaveSexForTech back at it, 18~ish years later.

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Aug 24th 2020, 16:10:28

Originally posted by MILORD:
It is not always possible to strike back with "ss" or "ps" ... Yes, and development can be long-term, when the real profit will be after a while, and early, like the indie communist.
A communist in the first phase of development, can make a seizure and answer him with the same coin, it is sometimes impossible. Therefore, the formula 1 cc ps = 1 cc ps, I think is not correct.


Not trying to be rude, but I have no idea what you just said.

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Aug 24th 2020, 16:13:50

If someone could double-tap me, please......

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Aug 24th 2020, 16:15:13

PS. I remember being a young 16-17ish high schooler and a top country in what was “standard” server back in the early 2000’s had the country name “Ivanka Trump Is Hot”.

I remember being like “who the hell is Ivanka Trump???”

18 years later... her old man is the most powerful man in the world. So for nostalgic purposes, i brought it back.

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Aug 24th 2020, 16:15:15

Originally posted by Ektar:
I was getting bored anyway. Military not selling.

If it has to boil down to the self satisfaction of 1 or the other. 1 getting the retal or 1 not getting retalled. I lost 1 but won 3 others. :-)

I actually didnt even remember hitting CLAP. I was focused on moonshiner, bee po, and the other D name country.

I also played on a whim, with no allies. Seems like most of you people have perennial allies(for the most part). It was also my first time playing primary(minus 1 set many moon ago where i noobed out quick).

I am having this little weird self satisfaction of not allowing these self righteous folks retal me haha. Maybe next set ill play for a month and top feed a bunch of the self righteous ones then stonewall & delete 72 hours later. Maybe i can single handedly change this culture. 😂

IhaveSexForTech back at it, 18~ish years later.


Same thing happened to me, I was watching I few I knew could retal me and CLAP slipped under my radar and then one day murdered me with a retal LOL, #80 retalled a DH and that hurt more, oh well, I had lost interest and stopped grabbing allowing them to catch up, all on me :-/
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Aug 24th 2020, 16:15:25

Originally posted by Ektar:
I was getting bored anyway. Military not selling.

If it has to boil down to the self satisfaction of 1 or the other. 1 getting the retal or 1 not getting retalled. I lost 1 but won 3 others. :-)

I actually didnt even remember hitting CLAP. I was focused on moonshiner, bee po, and the other D name country.

I also played on a whim, with no allies. Seems like most of you people have perennial allies(for the most part). It was also my first time playing primary(minus 1 set many moon ago where i noobed out quick).

I am having this little weird self satisfaction of not allowing these self righteous folks retal me haha. Maybe next set ill play for a month and top feed a bunch of the self righteous ones then stonewall & delete 72 hours later. Maybe i can single handedly change this culture. 😂

IhaveSexForTech back at it, 18~ish years later.


I'm not self righteous. I said you're free to quit whenever you want. You're also free to play just to annoy people. Have at it =)

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Aug 24th 2020, 16:17:03

[quote poster=Tmac; [/quote]
the translator fails ... I am writing via phone Thank you for the information.
born in the USSR

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Aug 24th 2020, 16:24:57

Originally posted by Tmac:
Originally posted by MILORD:
It is not always possible to strike back with "ss" or "ps" ... Yes, and development can be long-term, when the real profit will be after a while, and early, like the indie communist.
A communist in the first phase of development, can make a seizure and answer him with the same coin, it is sometimes impossible. Therefore, the formula 1 cc ps = 1 cc ps, I think is not correct.


Not trying to be rude, but I have no idea what you just said.


understood it to mean that sometimes retaling with a grab is not strictly economically viable, e.g a commie can retal anyone early on. someone else might have to build up to retal - they might strictly be better (end NW wise) sucking up the hit.

(then goes on to talk about always recalling one way or another, perhaps alluding to notion that its not always about pure numbers but also about "diplomatic relations" going forwards!)

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Aug 24th 2020, 16:25:30

[quote poster=MILORD; 49170; 957414][quote poster=Tmac; [/quote]
the translator fails ... I am writing via phone Thank you for the information. [/quote]

That makes sense, respect to anyone trying to learn a second language!

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Aug 24th 2020, 17:08:40

Is CLAP Gerdler? 😂😂😂

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Aug 24th 2020, 17:09:37

IHSFT is an iconic player. He holds a special place in my heart from our old “strategy room” days.

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Aug 24th 2020, 17:13:47

Him dabooz, RC, and rockman are all in fond memories haha.

Gerdler did you post on the strategy room in earth 2025?

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Aug 24th 2020, 18:15:04

the old strat room days. Excellent high school memories.

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Aug 24th 2020, 18:22:31

Originally posted by Requiem:
Him dabooz, RC, and rockman are all in fond memories haha.

Gerdler did you post on the strategy room in earth 2025?

Ofcourse I did. I was pals with Rockman, RC Theucidites, IHSFT, VIPx, StompinPaulPellar and I spoke on IRC with JJ23 regularily. Raheel and I also spoke a bunch but I was never a fan of him.

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Aug 24th 2020, 18:37:38

What was your name on that board?

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Aug 24th 2020, 18:38:19

JJ23 was the best too! Always talking about his bench press LOL

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Aug 24th 2020, 18:39:22

Originally posted by Requiem:
JJ23 was the best too! Always talking about his bench press LOL


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Aug 24th 2020, 18:48:57

Oh I found ya on way back machine. DOM

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Aug 24th 2020, 19:15:34

You guys have good memories. You must be a little older than i am. Im 35, yourselves?

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Aug 24th 2020, 19:17:18

44
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Aug 24th 2020, 19:39:47

36!

I couldn’t find my posts On there!

I was: The Legend —> Fujifilm —> Requiem

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Aug 25th 2020, 12:05:13

am i the youngest at 33? lol

Tmac

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Aug 25th 2020, 19:50:13

Originally posted by DeLpHiNuS:
am i the youngest at 33? lol


I'm 33 too

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Aug 25th 2020, 21:04:52

One of us could be like 16 years old... if our dad introduced us to the game haha

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Aug 25th 2020, 22:42:04

Zelow was like 17 or something like that when he started playing if Im not mistaken. Afaik he is not playing since about 1 year back but he should be around 19-20 now if he returns and my math+ memory is right.

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Aug 26th 2020, 0:02:22

I never realized he was that young.

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Aug 28th 2020, 19:31:51

fluff you private market!!!


You purchased 3514857 Bushels for $903,326,592.
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
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Aug 28th 2020, 20:44:00

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
fluff you private market!!!


You purchased 3514857 Bushels for $903,326,592.


Lol, they need an undo button!

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Aug 28th 2020, 20:51:59

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
fluff you private market!!!


You purchased 3514857 Bushels for $903,326,592.

Nooo

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Aug 28th 2020, 21:00:30

I don't even know what prompted me to go look at pvt market, I had no business being there....
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
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Aug 30th 2020, 2:05:15

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
I don't even know what prompted me to go look at pvt market, I had no business being there....


likely the drugs

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Aug 30th 2020, 2:11:32

Originally posted by Hessman123:
Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
I don't even know what prompted me to go look at pvt market, I had no business being there....


likely the drugs


🤣
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Aug 30th 2020, 18:12:23

Man, that’s some good dinner brah! :D

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Aug 31st 2020, 18:27:14

Late hits during stocking suck.
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
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Aug 31st 2020, 18:41:51

You need more turrets! ;p

But yeah. Sucky timing.

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Sep 1st 2020, 12:26:59

:|

One annoying thing about end of set top feeds like that is now not only am I no longer in the race to win this reset, I’ll never actually be able to know what my finish even would’ve been. I really wanted to see where I landed.

And it doesn’t even help the guy, it’s just griefing/enjoying seeing a big number.

Edited By: Molotov on Sep 1st 2020, 12:32:40
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DeLpHiNuS

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Sep 1st 2020, 12:30:30

was this the biggest hit thus far?

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Sep 1st 2020, 12:38:01

Who cares? If it was, credit to me for having the land to begin with. Not exactly an accomplishment to throw out a pointless late top feed... it wasn’t even close to net matched!

Edited By: Molotov on Sep 1st 2020, 12:42:24
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DeLpHiNuS

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Sep 1st 2020, 12:44:25

yea it's not easy to get 70k land.. it's been many years since someone got this amount of land.. at first i thought it was a retal, but it was just a hit.. kinda late hit at this point which seems senseless

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Sep 1st 2020, 13:07:30

Yeah last time someone reached 70k was Serp in March-April 2016. Over 4 years! Well, the streak goes on I guess since I didn't actually make it anymore. I attacked an extra day more than I should've just to hit the benchmark. :P

I've been back for 6 sets now and and in 2 of them (33%) I've been topfed in the last week to block a potential win...

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Sep 1st 2020, 13:17:52

i feel u molotov.. i would probably be pissed as well if i got hit randomly by someone that is not a retal, late at this stage.. i guess that's the nature of the game to not let one's guard down until crossing the finishing line.. hitting 70k land at a round with so little players is already an achievement

DeLpHiNuS

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Sep 1st 2020, 13:22:53

u are few hundred land short of 70k after the retal.. if u think u cant win this round, maybe can at least try to hit the 70k land milestone:)

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Sep 1st 2020, 13:29:37

Yeah I can't win now (don't know if I would have before but maybe?). If he doesn't RoR I can hit 70k just by exploring ~40 turns and just did 25. consolation prize?

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Sep 1st 2020, 13:34:59

You have the 20 acres bonuses that will give you 100acres on its own. I think you need only explore like 5-7 for 70k.