Can someone explain why posting a player's spy ops is being allowed on TEAM's forums?

Elvesrus (TEAM) moderator seems to believe it's ok.

Can we get Tella back?

pointing in the direction of the post tends to help, but that statement is 100% true.

forum actions have forum repercussions

The forum rules clearly state you cannot post SPY OPS.
http://earthempires.com/...-conduct-333?t=1456618260

If you're not going to enforce it, then at least update the rules to reflect it.

I like how you found time to delete my post on TEAM but not the violating post. You could have easily deleted the post & told Ford not to do it again, instead you post a statement encouraging the violating behavior.

You have yet to make a statement on TEAM forums condemning the action; but, as I've said in threads before you became a mod, your favoritism towards certain players affects your ability to be an unbiased moderator.

I'd rather have a police officer who shows up late & enforces the rules fairly than one who gets there on time watching the crime happen & does nothing.

I didn't see what you have been referring to. How can I condemn what I haven't seen?

Same thread in which Ford gave you high 5 for doing nothing.

Right after your post:



You know exactly where the thread is. You managed to reply to Clintonista's post who reported it. Now you suddenly you have amnesia.

nobody reported the post itself. show me where it is because I must have missed the SPECIFIC post

Look @ the post you responded to dude.

It doesn't get any clearer than that. Even your response completely contradicts the forum rules.

http://earthempires.com/...lans-changed-38948#710684

And your post is here:

http://earthempires.com/...ns-changed-38948/2#711200

Though you'll probably edit it.

you mean the one saying that breaking the forum rules does not result in a deleted country? nowhere in the rules does it mention in game punishment for forum violations.

btw, look at that post again and realize how easy this could have all been by including that last bit in the first place.

I'm not asking for in game punishment. I never have. I'm asking you condem and not encourage rule violations. And if it's ok to post SPY OPS., then update forum rules.

reading comprehension...

did you even read the post I was directly responding to?

So let me see if I understand what you're saying.

You took the time to correct Clintonista's request on forums, but you didnt and still haven't taken the time to correct Ford's violating post.

The person who actually did something wrong receives nothing but the person reporting gets corrected--- yeah I'm comprehending just fine.

if you want to believe that, then so be it

And now you strategically move the thread from suggestions to TEAM. Haha.

because the other real alternative was to nuke the whole thing with the way it was going

Yeah-- because this thread is far more degenerating than all the other threads. Nuke the self-embarrassment.

Celphi is not good at making friends

Diplomacy man, learn it.

Also, the op was of a dead country. And only to prove it was not a netting country. Context.

That rule was to prevent people for asking for help with kills or giving out info on people they have a beef with. None of that applies here.

I'd still rather err on the side of caution.

forum actions do not have forum repercussions when the moderator will not take action.



this was a clear rules violation, no one disputes that. It is not caution to allow deliberate knowing voluntary rules violations by people with long histories of violating the rules. That is enabling.

Please explain why it is erring on the side of caution to let a serial cheater cheat once more?

There is no exception in the forum rules for posting the spy op on a dead country, the moderator is creating an exception. Probably because he is a friend or some other bias because no objective moderator would allow this.

i dont get how posting the op of a dead country violates rules?

i dont have a horse in this race but i honestly dont get the beef.

Your definition of "no one disputes that" is pretty liberal. And by liberal, I mean bullfluff.

I would also like you to post my long history of violating the rules. I would be interested in your months long history view of my breaking the rules. Your love of hyperbole in lieu of facts doesn't help your point. I have never been deleted, banned, or forced to change my nick to be taken seriously.

You are so full of fluff, and wonder why no one takes you seriously.

did either of you think to check said post recently?

compare a certain time stamp to celphi's post with the link

Also, learn how to use a fluffing comma. Your posts are giving me cancer asshole.

You caved to terrorists. You are no better than they are.

You gave them the only victory that they were so.desperately clawing for. Shame on you.

An op of a dead country does nothing.

Breaking of the forum rules can result in your thread/post being edited or deleted. Breaking forum rules multiple times in a short amount of time could turn into a forum ban. You will be banned for an X period of time which will be decided upon by the moderator team

Dissident used logic

it was super inneffective

Id like to see more mod action on these rules... lol

-Be respectful at all times. 
-MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL!! INCASE OF DOUBT THE BOARDMODS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT. 
-Please note that posts can also be deleted by the intention of the post even if the posts not breaks any of the above mentioned rules.
-Don't be a pest (this includes such things as topping ancient posts for spamming or other reasons

LMAO

your mother wears combat boots
ELVES HAS NEVER BEEN RIGHT IN HIS LIFE!
the editing of my post is almost as bad as hitler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

done.

Country was dead who cares...pull your panties out of your asscrack and play the damn game. Hope some of you aren't married because you'd probably end up being stabbed by your wife if you fluff and moan this much in your personal life

LOL

http://pastebin.com/GqdUAsRU

the internet is cray cray man

more like some people on the internet are cray cray, insane in the membrane or even type A assh0les

all of the above

Sir Celphi CryALot

Moderator,

I appreciate your willingness to be a volunteer for a thankless job. You volunteered to help the game and now you are caught in the middle of a discussion with lots of heat and little light. People are upset and angry and the game is being hurt. I also understand that you have not been given the tools to handle disputes in a transparent process. Process is often as important as result because everyone feels that their side was heard. As one who has adjudicated similar disputes countless times in different forums, I would like to suggest the following approach.

First make a finding of fact.
Next determine which if any rules apply to those facts.
Next determine whether the facts constitute a violation of the relevant rules.
If and only if you determine the facts constitute a rules violation then weigh the aggravating and mitigating circumstances.

Publish your finding of fact, your rules determination, your weighing of the aggravating and mitigating factors.

In this case, the facts are not in dispute. mrford posted a spy op of a dead country.
Also the rules are clear and concise. It is illegal to post spy ops.
Check to determine if there is an exception to the rules saying that it is fine to post ops of dead countries.
I see no such exception.

The difficulty in this case lies in weighing the aggravating and mitigating factors.
Even though the fact that the spy op is not a defense to this conduct it might be a mitigating factor. The mitigation is diminished by the fact that the spy op was a good look at the restart which mirrors the dead country. Also in mitigation mrford has been a long time player. Also in mitigation he posts on the forum constantly.
In aggravation, he insults players relentlessly, he insults moderators and the game's founders on a regular basis, he makes frequent references to gay sex and excrement, and his history is well known.

If you then post your decision, not everyone will be happy but everyone will at least feel that they were heard.

Oh stfu already

This server has seen truly garbage mods before lol

Posting ingame info about someone else's country that can only be gained from spending turns(ie spy ops) are not allowed. We won't delete your country for that, but you'll get a warning and be banned if you continue to do it.

A dead country?

Tella is the worst mod this game has ever seen.

His affirmation means nothing. And he is definitely not unbiased.

This

Hi Tella!

Congrat clintonista on finally using paragraphs :)

When your name is "Tella, the camel fluff smella"...

Celphi is bored, nobody has said his name in a while.

Now that he has mastered chess, all he has to live for is mastering the Team Talk forums.

Doxing people did not result in a country deletion for celphi, but posting dead country ops does? lol

He's just mad that we like elves more than we like him. TBH celphi, we like dysentery more than we like you.

Most people would rather jam a sword fish in their ass before they would talk to cellphi.