Thought you guys were good?



Discuss.

Their ability to play this game has declined about as much as your trolling has.

lol deli. Neither of you are doing well in this thread

de1i has been extremely quiet this reset.



Discuss.

They are currently putting all their effort into creating a super player into my newborn son. They don't give a damn about the war right now.

Guess all those illegitimate body touching got them a good spankin

They kept reading your horrible posting... dude I thought I was bad at posting.

I think you should actually give SoL some credit. They have done exceptionally well this set in my opinion. Especially their big guys.

SoL did do good. Even if LaF wasn't prepared for war, that's their own fault, they were still out numbered against a very active alliance.

LaF was over due for a good ass kicking, but this won't be the last time they fight a war! They will be back and will also kick some fluff.

I dont think sol deserves any credit, laf just deserve to be slated for being fluff this set.

Why not SS? I mean sportsmanship would say that you should, but whatever floats your boat. No matter what you say: You lost. And it was your fault. At the end of the day that's all that matters so long as it wasn't due to cheating etc... SoL rolled a clan with 20 more members that's something they should receive credit for, and again before you say "LaF wasn't war ready" that's your fault/ problem not SoL's.

+ Credit to SoL

lol LaF hasn't lost yet. That doesn't mean their performance to date hasn't been awful tho... (it has)

Well when looking at the scores list it looks that way ;)

20 more members will make quite a difference with a month left in the set. I think this war could be really interesting actually and stay competitive all set...

Hope so! Deff need an entertaining war to watch.

I agree. There hasn't been a competitive 1v1 war (no offense Ely) in quite some time I believe. ICN vs SOF also had potential to be a good war before Imag ...

To be honest, not too many people in SOL thought the war would look like this right now. I think we went into this realising that our chances of tagkilling LaF were small and it was more about making a statement about their self-serving policies.

Does their arrogance preclude them from making policy changes that might keep them out of the sights of war alliances in future? Maybe. Maybe not. The way they have been stomped by an alliance with 60% of the members this reset probably means that they need a serious rethink of how they approach the game.

You can't have your military-thin/land-fat Reps/Theos if you want to be a bunch of assholes. Perhaps a leaf out of MONSTERS book is in order.

Umm one bad set isn't the demise of an alliance nor will it cause them to change their policies. I don't think SOL's performance last set really caused any change to the way they approach politics, just to the way they conduct war.

Demise? Read the post idiot.

The premise of what I was saying for s l o w people:

LaF's policies are at odds with a lot of alliances. They are seen as bullies. They also are arrogant enough to run crap war countries while being bullies. Bad idea.

this thread is dumb...

if you think a single set defines an alliance, whether that set be especially good or bad, then you are even more clueless than I thought.

There are so many things that change from set to set...

I will say that this has awoken many folks in LaF to many things... and one of those is that SoL isn't the friend that we thought they were. Your continued posts, which are a reflection of SoL, show that.

Always someone elses fault Pang.

Time for a reality/attitude check.

hmm?

who else's fault is it? I made no mention of that in my post, so I don't know where you're getting that from...

like I said, this thread is stupid... you can't define an alliance, like you are attempting to do, by any single reset... if you do... let's define SoL by last set and see how they do! :p

Like I've said numerous times on numerous threads (including the post I made before this one) is that it's a wake up call to LaF leaders for sure.... I've noted a sense of complicity in a lot of leaders and members, and this has reminded them that we need to keep our foot on the gas and not just float along and net it out...

you're just giving SoL another black eye... do your talking in-game

Who said we are defining anyone by this one set? We are talking about the current state of affairs and that is what is relevant at this point in time however at no time did I ever make judgments about anyone overall. I think most reasonable people know that one individual set does not define an alliance however talking about this set is relevant for this set. I believe if you read my other posts you can see that however I'm sure you didn't read all threads as I almost never do :)

Don't get in a ruffle pang'y we all know LaF will bounce back strong ;) Unless this is the start of a trend, which only time will tell.

Again no judgments overall; just in context to this set which is relevant at this time.

mmm I read this thread as more of a laf-bashing thread, rather than a "statement on the current political state" regardless of what you feel the intention was. My statement still stands regardless of the thread's intention... no one set defines an alliance, be it good or bad.

I always welcome the political state debates but this is, unfortunately, not that type of debate. Dagga isn't capable of starting such a debate, he's only really here to spread the hate and that is rather unfortunate.

As for LaF -> I'm not at all worried about LaF... with this war, so many people have come back and stepped up again. It's great to see so many old faces in the site :p

I can only speak for myself... As for dagga I don't know him or care really. Nothing I've said is invalid or said to spread any hate. I do agree with you and my previous posts show that.

Well, my initial response wasn't really directed at you, Requiem... it was just made in general about the way this thread was created/has evolved.

This is not at all a constructive thread, nor was it meant to be. It's fine, but let's call a spade a spade...

Pang, with dagga I would simply ignore the issues :P Req, I dont think anyone was commenting towards you other than SS and hes just grumpypants. :P

agreed

SS was always grumpy :p

It's easier to pass this off as a trolling thread isn't it Pang..

Fact still remain:

- Laf thinks its the big boy on the block and enforces selfish & stupid land policies
- Laf thinks it is tough enough to enforce them
- Laf got taught a valuable lesson by a much smaller alliance

Will LaF rethink their policies if they can't defend them?

We both know they'll be coming hard after you guys next set. I'm sure they're spending more energy planning your demise next set than they are in this current war.

If you can handle a LaF FS and still win, then that will change things.

lol its like 25 boring days left of the set :D. Have fun SoL.

this is for you dagga.
http://www.boxcarhosting.com/.../viewFile.php?fileID=1794

If they feel they need to FS a smaller alliance to get their revenge then it could turn into a big war - sounds like fun for us.

How many resets do you think the 40-50% pure netters in LaF will hang around?

well those 50% your talking about are all old LaF players, i mean maybe 49% of the players are people who have been in laf for like ten years. the rest are people who got sick of every other alliance in the game, and joined our ranks :D. 1% are planted SoL spies.

lol have fun LAF sitting around for 25 days too.

lol

dagga is just making stuff up now

if I was collab (thomas), I'd think long and hard about your alliance with SoL
LaF had an FDP with them for a long time, and this is how it turns out :)
this is how it always turns out for ALL of SoL's allies.... they just hit you, then talk fluff about you, and flame you. So you guys should look forward to that! :)

also, dagga, I've edited your insults on my name again. cut that out, there is asbolutely no need for it. you're beyond juvenile

also, the only people talking about "revenge" are the people who started this war and their allies. Just because you want to make this into a long, drawn out, alliance-killing conflict doesn't mean that everyone does.

LaF began the set considering both SoL and Collab to be friends. It looks like neither one is, based on how they've acted this set. That's another mistake LaF made, and certainly one we won't make again. Two former FDP's now working together against you is pretty fluffty.... but it's not the first time SoL has done that to an alliance :p
I think they've done it to almost all their allies in their history.

you guys need to stop making fluff up, seriously. It's getting ridiculous.

omg how dare you dagga!

Only I am allowed to insults at panker the wankers name!

watatub!

people can make fun of it all you want, but when you start throwing those kind of insults around, they get tossed regardless of who they're directed against :p

that's not unique to neither me nor dagga... dagga just keeps wanting to push the envelope, despite NUMEROUS warnings from multiple mods

if he acted like that against any other player, I'd have already tossed him.

there's still no real content in this thread btw
it's just postulating and flufftalking from a few people, and LaFfers dismissing it as just that.

this is one of the most pointless threads I've seen.... I expect dagga to now come back and attempt to attack my credibility yet again and that will probably be the end of the thread.


honestly, other sol leaders, why do you let this goon represent you on the forums? :p

I thought it was common knowledge of the following things.

dagga - is an idiot
Maki - (Taking one from Ravi's book here) is a POS.

The rest of this is just noise.

Oh and Pang uses his ownership/admin role to further LaF's political power. That usually comes up in these threads.

I think I covered everything.

I do code subliminal messages into the game's text.... but they're mainly self serving, not LaF serving

On February 12th, 2011 at 2:45 PM EST, you'll all start singing happy birthday but won't know why

there is no spoon

I don't handle all that FA type of stuff. As you can probably tell, it usually turns into me getting pissed off and starting a war :P With that being said, if SoL wants to break a pact and war us, no problem. We already beat them once :P



Pang - I'm not sure how we're being grouped into this? I stated the obvious... LaF usually comes back the following set and FSes the tag that FS'd them. And if they can handle a FS from a bigger alliance that has some of the most dedicated and best countries in the game, that they'd garner more respect.

I don't quite get how that can be translated into us working against you? I don't even think we LG'd you guys all set, even before your unexpected war with SoL. If this is about dropping DPs, you guys aren't the only ones we dropped. We also dropped NA and several others as we are trying to encourage landgrabbing on this server again.

/me is puzzled

No we don't. You are just wrong about that....
LaF hasn't done that in as long as I can remember.... we did it to MD, but only after Arsenal said that MD would keep going after LaF. What other choice did LaF have? :p
I re-joined LaF that set. That was also 5 years ago. The VAST majority of LaF's wars on both EC and in EE have been one-time defensive wars, or longer wars where the 2nd set of fighting was instigated by a non-LaF alliance. I can't think of a single time we have gone after someone that hit us, regardless of the outcome of the first war, to get revenge for a war that may not have gone our way. Wow. Why would you say that? :p

However, it has happened to LaF many times (IX, Rival, PDM to name a few) where someone FS's LaF and loses, then comes back for more or LaF FS's someone at the defense of someone else and we get hit again the next set for "retribution"

I'm puzzled as well, but it's only as to why you're making things up. Do you really feel the need to get involved in this type of conversation that doesn't concern you? :p Your involvement in it pulls Collab into it moreso than just being SoL's newest flavour of the week DP

When my name is being brought into a situation that isn't true, yes I feel the need to get involved in the conversation.

Remember what they say about assumptions Pangy Poo...

eh I think hes just making commentary pang :P he def. wasnt anti laf the whole thread :P

well, I'm more concerned about thomas' posts stating that LaF are the kind of alliance who will come back and smack you around the next set, when there is ABSOLUTELY no evidence of that, based on our conduct in the last 5 years. That's something SoL and Collab do... but not something LaF normally does.

Can you substantiate that statement a little more Thomas?
because I feel that your statement is factually incorrect....

I don't know what you're talking about with assumptions.... I'm not assuming anything :p You're the one assuming.

Maybe it was my misunderstanding... PDM LG FS'd you guys (when I was there unfortunately). Did you not FS them back the following set as payback? I could have sworn that was the case, but don't have time to actually go back and find the War Dec.