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Alin Game profile

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Sep 15th 2014, 9:11:24

Originally posted by iNouda:
Alin is a dirty netter!

















Confirmed.


You better stop calling me that, because i am out of farming targets/war targets for 12 days now. And i do know your country number.

Hawkster Game profile

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Sep 15th 2014, 17:23:35

Originally posted by Alin:
Aponic is turning into Sov day by day. Altought some hands were reach out it is clear that Sof is not taking them. They pretty much count on the fact that not all of the alliances that rally up to war this reset, will do the same next one, too. Fine, by my book of playing 1A. Nailing Sof is what i do and like.

The only ones, that have the "tools" to switch the way this server wars, are the admins. Some new rules of engagement should be written and applied. Otherwise this circle will never end. The main alliances btw the "big boys" are to tight at this moment to be broken.

I see three possible scenarios for the next 2-3 resets:

1. A "Sofside" ally becomes neutral or switch sides. Sof is forced to war even and/or prearranged.

2. A Md/Sol ally becomes neutral or switch sides. New server war as retribution.

3. No one switch sides. Sof seeks retribution against whomever they could. Laf seeks the same against 1.Evo 2.Sol. Not sure how much more bathing into the "mud of day 10-15 wars" can Laf take for being allied with Sof, and Sof being unable to rally up to war latter than ^.


I like your thinking as all of those choices includes warring and having fun :D

Not too sure if those are accurate or not, but hey I like so am willing to go along with it for now.

aponic Game profile

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Sep 15th 2014, 21:26:35

Tella: I would argue that this reset has been a revenge war despite the fact that SOF took the FS -- see other post if you want my 2 cents. It is certainly the result of SOF actions last set declaring on MD and I give you that. An aggressive SOF will pay the price for prior sets -- but the price is a crushing beat down.

Anyway, as we discussed here and in private, the only way forward is to collaborate together with all parties (all alliances) being welcome to join and to place some basic trust in the dialogue as to be able to move forward with what is agreed.

Mdevol: "half filled with people" includes you. You are definatively a hater, a liar, and a manipulater. You aren't the FA or the President of SOL so fortunately for me, I don't need to have a dialogue with you.

Alin: I have maintained a give and take attitude here on AT. I certainly defend myt alliance. With that said, maybe you should try to put yourself in my shoes when reading my posts. A good lot of the leadership in MD and SOL and other alliances have expectations of controlling my alliance. Do you really argue that it isn't so? I am not arguing as to whether that is just, simply that it is so and posing the question of moving forward. Your flaming/trolling me is not as effective as constructively analizing what you do not agree with.
SOF
Cerevisi

ssewellusmc

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Sep 16th 2014, 0:08:24

Originally posted by aponic:
Tella: I would argue that this reset has been a revenge war despite the fact that SOF took the FS -- see other post if you want my 2 cents. It is certainly the result of SOF actions last set declaring on MD and I give you that. An aggressive SOF will pay the price for prior sets -- but the price is a crushing beat down.

Anyway, as we discussed here and in private, the only way forward is to collaborate together with all parties (all alliances) being welcome to join and to place some basic trust in the dialogue as to be able to move forward with what is agreed.

Mdevol: "half filled with people" includes you. You are definatively a hater, a liar, and a manipulater. You aren't the FA or the President of SOL so fortunately for me, I don't need to have a dialogue with you.

Alin: I have maintained a give and take attitude here on AT. I certainly defend myt alliance. With that said, maybe you should try to put yourself in my shoes when reading my posts. A good lot of the leadership in MD and SOL and other alliances have expectations of controlling my alliance. Do you really argue that it isn't so? I am not arguing as to whether that is just, simply that it is so and posing the question of moving forward. Your flaming/trolling me is not as effective as constructively analizing what you do not agree with.


Bingo +9999999999

mdevol Game profile

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Sep 16th 2014, 0:22:01

I accept the hater and manipulator charges as being on the other side of the fence and generally disagreeing with each other will lead to that stuff being believed. But liar?

Where have I ever lied to you or your clan?

Please enlighten us. I have nothing to hide.

That is a VERY baseless accusation that frankly is not the truth. And coming from the man that is so defensive of other people "baselessly" misrepresenting his character, it is awfully hypocritical.

You don't have to like me or even trust me but calling me out to be a liar is awfully damning when it isn't even close to the truth and you know as much.

As for including me in the group wanting to run Sof out of the game, that is far from the truth. I have been a strong advocate of standing up to your block with strenght but also having an end goal of diplomacy because that is best for the game. I was very much in the group of vocal folks that was calling for diplomacy the first time we went through this earlier this year. You don't know nearly as much as you think you do about me.

Edited By: mdevol on Sep 16th 2014, 0:26:44
Surely what a man does when he is caught off his guard is the best evidence as to what sort of man he is. - C.S. Lewis

melvin85 Game profile

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Sep 16th 2014, 4:33:33

full set war?

Untagged Hunter

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Sep 16th 2014, 4:38:24

You all have too much free time on your hand

Zorp Game profile

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Sep 16th 2014, 4:43:59

The two above posts are both correct.

iNouda Game profile

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Sep 16th 2014, 5:13:03

Originally posted by Alin:
Originally posted by iNouda:
Alin is a dirty netter!















Confirmed.


You better stop calling me that, because i am out of farming targets/war targets for 12 days now. And i do know your country number.


Don't make me retal yo fat ass! I'll come out on top (in more ways than one :P).

Alin Game profile

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Sep 16th 2014, 6:47:44

Alin: I have maintained a give and take attitude here on AT. I certainly defend myt alliance. With that said, maybe you should try to put yourself in my shoes when reading my posts. A good lot of the leadership in MD and SOL and other alliances have expectations of controlling my alliance. Do you really argue that it isn't so? I am not arguing as to whether that is just, simply that it is so and posing the question of moving forward. Your flaming/trolling me is not as effective as constructively analizing what you do not agree with.


Empathy is not exactly my strong point in this game. I lost all the remaining stock of empathy the time when some people were caught doing fluff and different alliances(from leaders to usual members) had different approaches on that. Starting that point - i realized empathy does not have a place in this game. Because if some people had empathy they would not have farmed the fluff out of the "cheated on" ones, set after set. You(your system) might fool some players that still have empathy ( the most pro eminent example that comes across my mind at this point is tellarion ) but not going to fool me.

I do not hold any position in my current alliance but i do talk with people time to time.I don`t think people in MD and Sol have expectation to control your alliance or any other alliance. And to be totally honest here ( might hit a sensitive place ), I think Laf controlled (with our without your knowledge ) Sof since a lot time ago.The same thing can not be said about Sof, because they do like, time to time, to have their "controlled" lapdogs. RIVAL until not to long ago(until RIVAL reached 18 members and was not worth the effort anymore) and RAGE is slowly filling that position ATM.

And i do not flame you or any individual person in Sof, but Sof as a hole. I don`t like your system, i don`t like your past in this game, i don`t like that you are always the guys that
we didn't know
, i don`t like the early wars you force everybody into because you can`t war late, i don`t like you because you are arrogant and fluffy altought you have very few reasons to be so ( can`t remember last time when Sof won a war on it`s own), and I just think the mask your leadership uses for a long time is kinda old and broken. I have no particular beef with individuals in Sof. If you don`t believe me ask the ones that left your side and somehow meet me "at a point".

Edited By: Alin on Sep 16th 2014, 12:25:34

Alin Game profile

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Sep 16th 2014, 6:49:02

Originally posted by iNouda:
Originally posted by Alin:
Originally posted by iNouda:
Alin is a dirty netter!















Confirmed.


You better stop calling me that, because i am out of farming targets/war targets for 12 days now. And i do know your country number.


Don't make me retal yo fat ass! I'll come out on top (in more ways than one :P).


You are, yet again, thinking sexual - and i already told you(5 times now) that i am not into the tranny stuff.
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flgatorboy89 Game profile

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Sep 16th 2014, 7:06:27

Alin you lie, you were all about the shemale porn you posted in warroom!
Jon
ZT, SoL


<jon> off to bed fluffbeater :p
<mrford> i dont beat fluffs
<mrford> i eat them
<mrford> gosh
<jon> well, fluffeater
<Kat> oookay....

Alin Game profile

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Sep 16th 2014, 7:29:42

iNouda had corrupted many - but i did not know he corrupted you too.

Academus Game profile

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Sep 17th 2014, 7:49:59

bonus

flgatorboy89 Game profile

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Sep 17th 2014, 8:38:18

Heheh you never know alin
Jon
ZT, SoL


<jon> off to bed fluffbeater :p
<mrford> i dont beat fluffs
<mrford> i eat them
<mrford> gosh
<jon> well, fluffeater
<Kat> oookay....

Nekked Game profile

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885

Sep 18th 2014, 15:02:49

STFU & FIGHT!

Die Laf Die

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Sep 18th 2014, 15:18:42

Originally posted by Nekked:
STFU & FIGHT!


fight what? they are so small it's not even worth my time. Honestly this is the most boring war ever in the history of EE

and fluff you humanitarian

Hawkster Game profile

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429

Sep 18th 2014, 17:36:50

Originally posted by Alin:
Alin: I have maintained a give and take attitude here on AT. I certainly defend myt alliance. With that said, maybe you should try to put yourself in my shoes when reading my posts. A good lot of the leadership in MD and SOL and other alliances have expectations of controlling my alliance. Do you really argue that it isn't so? I am not arguing as to whether that is just, simply that it is so and posing the question of moving forward. Your flaming/trolling me is not as effective as constructively analizing what you do not agree with.


Empathy is not exactly my strong point in this game. I lost all the remaining stock of empathy the time when some people were caught doing fluff and different alliances(from leaders to usual members) had different approaches on that. Starting that point - i realized empathy does not have a place in this game. Because if some people had empathy they would not have farmed the fluff out of the "cheated on" ones, set after set. You(your system) might fool some players that still have empathy ( the most pro eminent example that comes across my mind at this point is tellarion ) but not going to fool me.

I do not hold any position in my current alliance but i do talk with people time to time.I don`t think people in MD and Sol have expectation to control your alliance or any other alliance. And to be totally honest here ( might hit a sensitive place ), I think Laf controlled (with our without your knowledge ) Sof since a lot time ago.The same thing can not be said about Sof, because they do like, time to time, to have their "controlled" lapdogs. RIVAL until not to long ago(until RIVAL reached 18 members and was not worth the effort anymore) and RAGE is slowly filling that position ATM.

And i do not flame you or any individual person in Sof, but Sof as a hole. I don`t like your system, i don`t like your past in this game, i don`t like that you are always the guys that
we didn't know
, i don`t like the early wars you force everybody into because you can`t war late, i don`t like you because you are arrogant and fluffy altought you have very few reasons to be so ( can`t remember last time when Sof won a war on it`s own), and I just think the mask your leadership uses for a long time is kinda old and broken. I have no particular beef with individuals in Sof. If you don`t believe me ask the ones that left your side and somehow meet me "at a point".

Wow, I am impressed, the best post and reply think I have seen from you. Some good valid arguments in the first paragraph at least.

"I don`t think people in MD and Sol have expectation to control your alliance or any other alliance." But uhm you do realize that immediately after you made this statement, you than go on to disprove it, but trying to tell SoF how to play or how not to play. Trying to control and dictate how that clan plays is guess what, trying to control that alliance. Ofc that is kinda whole point of this game, but you still cant deny ... followed by statements doing the exact opposite lol.

Hawkster Game profile

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Sep 18th 2014, 17:42:28

Originally posted by Alin:
And i do not flame you or any individual person in Sof,

Originally posted by Alin:
i don`t like you because you are arrogant and fluffy altought you have very few reasons to be so


And you did it once again, stating one thing only to prove yourself wrong a few sentences later LMAO.

NukEvil Game profile

Member
4327

Sep 18th 2014, 17:50:55

Hmm, a troll. Or one vying for my throne?

Must keep an eye on this one.
I am a troll. Everything I say must be assumed to be said solely to provoke an exaggerated reaction to the current topic. I fully intend to bring absolutely no substance to any discussion, ongoing or otherwise. Conversing with me is pointless.

tellarion Game profile

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3906

Sep 19th 2014, 16:12:12

Originally posted by Hawkster:
Originally posted by Alin:
Alin: I have maintained a give and take attitude here on AT. I certainly defend myt alliance. With that said, maybe you should try to put yourself in my shoes when reading my posts. A good lot of the leadership in MD and SOL and other alliances have expectations of controlling my alliance. Do you really argue that it isn't so? I am not arguing as to whether that is just, simply that it is so and posing the question of moving forward. Your flaming/trolling me is not as effective as constructively analizing what you do not agree with.


Empathy is not exactly my strong point in this game. I lost all the remaining stock of empathy the time when some people were caught doing fluff and different alliances(from leaders to usual members) had different approaches on that. Starting that point - i realized empathy does not have a place in this game. Because if some people had empathy they would not have farmed the fluff out of the "cheated on" ones, set after set. You(your system) might fool some players that still have empathy ( the most pro eminent example that comes across my mind at this point is tellarion ) but not going to fool me.

I do not hold any position in my current alliance but i do talk with people time to time.I don`t think people in MD and Sol have expectation to control your alliance or any other alliance. And to be totally honest here ( might hit a sensitive place ), I think Laf controlled (with our without your knowledge ) Sof since a lot time ago.The same thing can not be said about Sof, because they do like, time to time, to have their "controlled" lapdogs. RIVAL until not to long ago(until RIVAL reached 18 members and was not worth the effort anymore) and RAGE is slowly filling that position ATM.

And i do not flame you or any individual person in Sof, but Sof as a hole. I don`t like your system, i don`t like your past in this game, i don`t like that you are always the guys that
we didn't know
, i don`t like the early wars you force everybody into because you can`t war late, i don`t like you because you are arrogant and fluffy altought you have very few reasons to be so ( can`t remember last time when Sof won a war on it`s own), and I just think the mask your leadership uses for a long time is kinda old and broken. I have no particular beef with individuals in Sof. If you don`t believe me ask the ones that left your side and somehow meet me "at a point".

Wow, I am impressed, the best post and reply think I have seen from you. Some good valid arguments in the first paragraph at least.

"I don`t think people in MD and Sol have expectation to control your alliance or any other alliance." But uhm you do realize that immediately after you made this statement, you than go on to disprove it, but trying to tell SoF how to play or how not to play. Trying to control and dictate how that clan plays is guess what, trying to control that alliance. Ofc that is kinda whole point of this game, but you still cant deny ... followed by statements doing the exact opposite lol.


Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see where he is trying to dictate how Sof should play? He says he doesn't like Sof's style. That's not the same as telling Sof what to do. Besides, it's AT rhetoric. Ingame actions are more telling..

Syko_Killa Game profile

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Sep 19th 2014, 16:50:34

I'm pretty sure Alin commended SoF in the 1 vs 1 against MD hawkster, SoF was outnumbered and still won. So if you can't remember the last time, I think that should help you recollect. . .
Do as I say, not as I do.

timmie Game profile

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211

Sep 19th 2014, 21:41:04

there is no war now. Half haven't restarted, most have no targets and some are grabbing untaggs. Yep... its over.

mdevol Game profile

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Sep 20th 2014, 6:05:01

Originally posted by timmie:
there is no war now. Half haven't restarted, most have no targets and some are grabbing untaggs. Yep... its over.



don't tell that to SoF, they said it was 2 months of kicking the fluff out of our opponents and dadgum, I am gonna give them 2 their months...
Surely what a man does when he is caught off his guard is the best evidence as to what sort of man he is. - C.S. Lewis

Hawkster Game profile

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Sep 20th 2014, 19:38:42

Originally posted by tellarion:
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see where he is trying to dictate how Sof should play? He says he doesn't like Sof's style. That's not the same as telling Sof what to do. Besides, it's AT rhetoric. Ingame actions are more telling..

I see it, but I will admit I may be reading more into it than what is intended as it is not spelled out .. I kinda doubt it though. There is an implication that this war is at least partly due to some of things Alin stated "I don`t like your system, i don`t like your past in this game, i don`t like that you are always the guys that
we didn't know
, i don`t like the early wars you force everybody into because you can`t war late". If this is correct and Alin is blaming at least part of the reason for this war due to their reasons, that is trying to dictate how SoF plays or how not to play. Again I will admit this is not specifically stated by Alin.

I definitely agree with your statement about it being AT rhetoric and that actions are more telling .. however once again if this is part of the reasons for the wars against SoF, then the actions are telling they are trying to dictate and control how SoF plays.

Personally I really do not have any issue with this per se, as I think that is all part of intent of the game. One clan makes policies ... and more importantly tries to dictate and control the other clans/server by backing up said policies.

tellarion Game profile

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Sep 21st 2014, 9:36:16

Alin says he doesn't like how you guys play. He's not telling you what to do. And even if he was, it wouldn't matter. He's just a member and has nothing to do with the decisions and politics.

iNouda Game profile

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Sep 21st 2014, 10:40:41

Pwned. Back to netting.

Suncrusher Game profile

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Sep 21st 2014, 12:39:09

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