Jan 19th 2013, 18:00:30
First off the executive orders that were passed are feel good legislation that were wrote to make people who nothing of the gun buying process think that they are taking big steps on gun control. Although the orders in themselves do nothing but state laws that are already in place will be enforced and recommend that agencies get getter at working together ect… It is the first step in getting the people use to letting the executive branch over reach. Like The boiling frog story is describing a frog slowly being boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is placed in boiling water, it will jump out, but if it is placed in cold water that is slowly heated, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death.
The second amendment if in fact a last resort for the people to protect themselves in the event the government becomes tyrannical.
“A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”
(a)The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b)The classes of the militia are—
(1) The organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) The unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
Ref : http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311
For those who think civilians cannot defend themselves against the might of a modern day military must have never heard Afghanistan, They has stood their ground for over 20+ years against the might of Russia then NATO and the United States.
There are four major hot and dry deserts in North America, all located in the western United States. The Rocky Mountains (or the Rockies) are a major mountain range in western North America. The Rocky Mountains stretch more than 3,000 miles. Appalachian Mountains, also called Appalachians great highland system of North America, the eastern counterpart of the Rocky Mountains. Extending for almost 2,000 miles (3,200 kilometres) from the Canadian province of Newfoundland and Labrador to central Alabama in the United States,
Very different landscape Realy?
See the thing is you are thinking of a battle field on a linear revolutionary war battle field on one side civilians with rifles on the other a row of tanks flanked by attack helicopters and fighter jets with nothing but open field between them. But that is not the reality of urban warfare, A place like NYC would be the most dangerous battle field that a conventional military has ever seen the only way to take it would be to destroy it completely. Facts are 1 man with a bolt action hunting rifle can do massive damage and hold an entire infantry squad at bay for days if they cannot pinpoint his position, IED’s hurt tanks and jets and helicopters are useless on the ground if they cannot get fuel. Also the thought that the entire force of the US military would forsake the constitution and their duty to protect the people and blindly follow orders to slaughter civilians is just crazy there would be an equal divide among military leaders and the sides would then be tipped in the advantage of the “rebels” since the civilians that support the tyrannical government would not have the means to contribute to the fight (guns). Factor in “humanitarian” aid from counties would love to take over as the world superpower and you have an unimaginable history altering event that I hope to never see.
To those who say the constitution is an old and outdated document I would argue that you could say the same thing about The Bible, Torah, Qur'an, authenticated writings of Bahaullah, Bhagavad Gita, Tipitaka, Vajrayana Tantra, Tao-te Ching, Kojiki, Nihongi, Talmud and Tanakh . Yes I did compare the US Constitution to the “Old Documents” that most major religions we founded upon, after all they are all writings that provide people with a guideline on how live their life in a way that they believe is superior to the others while touting ideas that promote good order among the people that follow them. By the logic of some of you “Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day” is an outdated commandment and has no place in busy modern day society and should be repealed.
If the United States falls, in 1000 years people would study why and find that the reason it fell was they lost their founding principles and from there it was a slippery slope (kind of sounds like Rome). But 2000 years after that is around the amount of time that needs to pass for the laws and writings of old fallen society’s to become scripture, In 3000 years your future kin will read about to 56 apostles of the Declaration of Independence , “The Holy Father” George Washington and his 38 disciples of the constitution, The saints who created the bill of rights, “The Prophet" Abraham Lincoln who freed the slaves with his emancipation proclamation. If you live your life by their teachings when you leave the physical world you will be able to spend eternity with them in “UP” in the United States(Heaven). If you are nonbeliever you end up in Europe/Canada(purgatory) where you will never know what true paradise is. If you oppose the teachings of the founders you will end up in down China/Middle East(Hell) where you will spent eternity being slaves to oppressive tyrants.
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
-Saint Thomas Jefferson
The second amendment if in fact a last resort for the people to protect themselves in the event the government becomes tyrannical.
“A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”
(a)The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b)The classes of the militia are—
(1) The organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) The unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
Ref : http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311
For those who think civilians cannot defend themselves against the might of a modern day military must have never heard Afghanistan, They has stood their ground for over 20+ years against the might of Russia then NATO and the United States.
There are four major hot and dry deserts in North America, all located in the western United States. The Rocky Mountains (or the Rockies) are a major mountain range in western North America. The Rocky Mountains stretch more than 3,000 miles. Appalachian Mountains, also called Appalachians great highland system of North America, the eastern counterpart of the Rocky Mountains. Extending for almost 2,000 miles (3,200 kilometres) from the Canadian province of Newfoundland and Labrador to central Alabama in the United States,
Very different landscape Realy?
See the thing is you are thinking of a battle field on a linear revolutionary war battle field on one side civilians with rifles on the other a row of tanks flanked by attack helicopters and fighter jets with nothing but open field between them. But that is not the reality of urban warfare, A place like NYC would be the most dangerous battle field that a conventional military has ever seen the only way to take it would be to destroy it completely. Facts are 1 man with a bolt action hunting rifle can do massive damage and hold an entire infantry squad at bay for days if they cannot pinpoint his position, IED’s hurt tanks and jets and helicopters are useless on the ground if they cannot get fuel. Also the thought that the entire force of the US military would forsake the constitution and their duty to protect the people and blindly follow orders to slaughter civilians is just crazy there would be an equal divide among military leaders and the sides would then be tipped in the advantage of the “rebels” since the civilians that support the tyrannical government would not have the means to contribute to the fight (guns). Factor in “humanitarian” aid from counties would love to take over as the world superpower and you have an unimaginable history altering event that I hope to never see.
To those who say the constitution is an old and outdated document I would argue that you could say the same thing about The Bible, Torah, Qur'an, authenticated writings of Bahaullah, Bhagavad Gita, Tipitaka, Vajrayana Tantra, Tao-te Ching, Kojiki, Nihongi, Talmud and Tanakh . Yes I did compare the US Constitution to the “Old Documents” that most major religions we founded upon, after all they are all writings that provide people with a guideline on how live their life in a way that they believe is superior to the others while touting ideas that promote good order among the people that follow them. By the logic of some of you “Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day” is an outdated commandment and has no place in busy modern day society and should be repealed.
If the United States falls, in 1000 years people would study why and find that the reason it fell was they lost their founding principles and from there it was a slippery slope (kind of sounds like Rome). But 2000 years after that is around the amount of time that needs to pass for the laws and writings of old fallen society’s to become scripture, In 3000 years your future kin will read about to 56 apostles of the Declaration of Independence , “The Holy Father” George Washington and his 38 disciples of the constitution, The saints who created the bill of rights, “The Prophet" Abraham Lincoln who freed the slaves with his emancipation proclamation. If you live your life by their teachings when you leave the physical world you will be able to spend eternity with them in “UP” in the United States(Heaven). If you are nonbeliever you end up in Europe/Canada(purgatory) where you will never know what true paradise is. If you oppose the teachings of the founders you will end up in down China/Middle East(Hell) where you will spent eternity being slaves to oppressive tyrants.
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
-Saint Thomas Jefferson
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