It's hard to believe nobody has approached this topic.
Thoughts and opinions?

wasn't Rambo. :-P

dunno. i'll look for my apathy hat. getting shot is too normal.

http://www.npr.org/...ot-to-death-gunman-sought

Quick question: How would outlawing guns in national parks keep outlaws from bringing guns into national parks?

NukEvil: because then we could surround the whole national park with metal detectors!

Buy stock in those #$@^@#% weapon / explosive detectors FTW!

The shooting renewed debate about a federal law that made it legal for people to take loaded weapons into national parks. The 2010 law made possession of firearms subject to state gun laws.

Bill Wade, the outgoing chair of the Coalition of National Park Service Retirees, said Congress should be regretting its decision.

i bet if there was a law banning firearms in the park this maniac would have said to himself "hmm i cant bring these guns into the park so i guess ill leave them home"

this is why lawmakers are retarded. they look at situations like this and say "hmm if there was a law preventing people from carrying guns here i bet nobody would ever get shot" because we all know the law abiding citizens are usually the people commiting these crimes.

Gun laws are objectively wrong. The purpose of the second amendment was NOT personal protection but rather to ensure the population could overthrow any government that stopped adequately representing them.

Ya... cause the law against shooting people clearly stopped this guy from shooting anyone... right? So clearly this would have never happened if there was a law against bringing weapons into the park.

actually youre wrong. it was meant for both purposes, and the supreme court has ruled it so.

2008 decision in District of Columbia v. Heller.

Was Pretty clear the individual Has the right to bare arms.
FOR ANY LAWFULL PURPOSE.

and it is illegal to go around killing , so obviously to argue over gun laws are meaningless here.

I agree wholeheartedly with these statements!

gun control



use both hands!

You really don't need to bring a loaded gun into a national park. Bringing the bullets and the gun in separately seems reasonable enough. That said, I do not think that has much to do with the aforementioned incident

dunno. i actually worry about dogs since i walk now. they don't listen to reason all the time. it would probably help if i had a gun handy. though, it doesn't look like the road kill is disappearing all that fast, so there probably ain't enough free ranging mutts for me to worry about.

How about the recent saving of a guy and his 3 kids from drowning in their car? It slid off the road on ice into a river. No one could get the windows or doors open but LUCKY ONE OF THE RESCUERS HAD A GUN! HE WAS ABLE TO SHOOT OUT ONE OF THE WINDOWS, thus saving ALL of their lives. Without the concealed carry laws those 4 lives would have been lost for sure. The car was nearly completely filled with water at the time. His having a concealed and loaded gun saved those people. Think of that- 3 small kids and a father. Where are the screaming liberals shouting for more guns because of this?

No, some crook shoots a lawdawg and they want to take away everyone's guns. I don't think so. Maybe try looking at the ig picture and realize you can't stop every crime or save every life. Having guns is one of the things that had made and kept our country great. They can have mine from my cold dead hand.

just put the anti-gun nutts into a kevlar padded room that contains a loaded gun for 72 hours. see how many guns jump and kill them to detah just for the heck of it.

Pro - guns are fun
Con - guns are fun

well I say, I say boy, you do sure sound like a redneck there fella!!!

OH NO THE POOR DAD AND KIDS!!!! would of been just as easy to break that window with a rock. and maybe the father was drunk, or obviously not in control of his vehicle. Maybe he deserved to die and what that person with the gun did was against gods wishes!!!!

GOD HAS FINAL SAY NOT GUNS.

PS I am God.

iscode: head out to a car see how easy those windows break with that rock...

I dont think the argument should be as much about gun laws as there is alot more to the story. One of our Iraq war veterans, and he friggin eluded law enforcement through chest deep snow for hours....insane

Very easily, ceramic works just as well.

We will never know the amount of lives saved by the right of the law abiding citizen to carry a firearm. If a criminal realizes you have one he will move along. You will never have known you WERE a target.

On a side note we broke car windows as kids all the time with a broke piece of ceramic off a spark plug. A very small piece will shatter a car window being thrown by a kid.

"would of been just as easy to break that window with a rock."

and the title of this thread could just as easily be mt ranier ranger bludgeoned to death by rock.

(a rock owned by the national parks services and protected by the federal government.. lawsuit, anybody?)

You guys are also forgetting that car window was submerged. That makes a HUGE difference. Also, go out in freezing conditions and dive down for your rock, all the while keeping up with the sinking car (as it was a river) to get your rick. Good luck. No the gun saved them.

New just in the news, New years eve a woman got on phone with police and told them a man was breaking into her home. She asked if he managed to get in before cops got there could she shoot him? They said they can't tell her what to do but to protect herself and baby. He got in- she shot and killed the bastard. Another gun saving lives by a good woman protecting her baby.

she could have thrown rocks at the intruder..

Ya, or if she was liberal she would have just asked him to leave and be friends, cause that always works. Or maybe he would have raped her, robed the place and then burned it, as this has happened before (and may God punish those bastards). Ya, i think the gun probably saved her.

how do you stop somebody from breaking into your house?

Invite them in and offer them a warm beverage.

no?

I will do nothing of the sort, I decide who i punish!!!

And geeeez thats a bit hypocritical of you isn't it? I thought rednecks didnt believe in womans rights, yet you are ok with them having a gun.

I am not happy about any woman being in control of a gun, let alone you crazy redneck bastards.

The great equalizer


http://youtu.be/o4Ofv7CvqoE

I like how Pains first post sums it up!

So, a park ranger was shot. Nothing different than a cop or any other random person being shot. I guess every time someone is shot we should reconsider legislation about gun control. lol.