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Rasp Game profile

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Oct 15th 2021, 13:08:06

Currently, you can see a LIVE/DEAD country's PREVIOUS countries (reverse lookup).

Has there been any thought about a DEAD country's current/subsequent countries?

Basically a forward lookup of what is currently in place.

Example:

Current:

Country of Y (#2)
DEAD
Restarted from Country of X (#1)


Suggestion:

Country of X (#1)
DEAD
Restarted AS Country of Y (#2)


This could later be chained like the following:

Country of X (#1)
DEAD
Restarted AS Country of Y (#2)
DEAD
Restarted AS Country of Z (#3)
LIVE


Edited By: Slagpit on May 12th 2024, 15:08:47
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[16:18:00] znc-rasp: We can kill bushido, but not bushifo, zack, moriarty, ghost rider, or darkling
[16:18:07] Req: Is that all the same person?
[16:18:12] symba: yea
[16:18:25] mob: my kids are like dad why are you laughing so much

Bug Game profile

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Oct 15th 2021, 13:10:59

Um, I think the way it runs in the database is only on the 2nd countries creation does it fill in that data, so it would require a bit of database adjusting to keep track forwardly.

Rasp Game profile

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Nov 5th 2021, 12:45:56

How about adding it to the API then so that us 3rd party devs can extrapolate the data ourselves? :)
[16:18:00] znc-rasp: We can kill bushido, but not bushifo, zack, moriarty, ghost rider, or darkling
[16:18:07] Req: Is that all the same person?
[16:18:12] symba: yea
[16:18:25] mob: my kids are like dad why are you laughing so much

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Nov 5th 2021, 16:06:29

It could make an excellent metric for some war stat(s).

+1

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Nov 5th 2021, 19:22:28

I think backwards lookup in the API would be epic for 3rd party devs. I guess either forward or backward would be fine, or both, but it shouldnt be necessary.

Im thinking all that would be needed is an extra column in the ranks update, called restartof#, with default value of 0 for all originals(including latestarts) then for all restarts its the number of the country it restarted from instead. This would be enough for 3rd party devs to track everything through their tools automatically.

Rasp Game profile

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Nov 6th 2021, 1:19:18

Originally posted by Gerdler:
I think backwards lookup in the API would be epic for 3rd party devs. I guess either forward or backward would be fine, or both, but it shouldnt be necessary.

Im thinking all that would be needed is an extra column in the ranks update, called restartof#, with default value of 0 for all originals(including latestarts) then for all restarts its the number of the country it restarted from instead. This would be enough for 3rd party devs to track everything through their tools automatically.


Agreed. If we don't have the resources to develop a forward lookup, at least post the data in the API updates so someone with the motivation will work on it for a 3rd party tool.

[16:18:00] znc-rasp: We can kill bushido, but not bushifo, zack, moriarty, ghost rider, or darkling
[16:18:07] Req: Is that all the same person?
[16:18:12] symba: yea
[16:18:25] mob: my kids are like dad why are you laughing so much

Rasp Game profile

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Nov 6th 2021, 1:20:09

implications:

1) Tracking restarts of known suiciders.
2) warstats
3) ?
[16:18:00] znc-rasp: We can kill bushido, but not bushifo, zack, moriarty, ghost rider, or darkling
[16:18:07] Req: Is that all the same person?
[16:18:12] symba: yea
[16:18:25] mob: my kids are like dad why are you laughing so much

Gerdler Game profile

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Nov 7th 2021, 16:43:07

3) general user friendlyness

- I think one of the main issues with ee is its extremely clunky to navigate.

For instance when you go to the scores list and see a country you might want to look up its news, message it, send an alliance offer to it, spy it, grab it, or just search it... why isnt this an option right there on the scores list? there should be a link to spy it, or search it, or check its news, or message it, right there. instead you have to remember or copy its number, if you remember it wrong there could be a disaster of some kind, and even if you dont its so fcking 90s navigation.

Rasp Game profile

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Nov 8th 2021, 16:52:48

Originally posted by Gerdler:
3) general user friendlyness

- I think one of the main issues with ee is its extremely clunky to navigate.

For instance when you go to the scores list and see a country you might want to look up its news, message it, send an alliance offer to it, spy it, grab it, or just search it... why isnt this an option right there on the scores list? there should be a link to spy it, or search it, or check its news, or message it, right there. instead you have to remember or copy its number, if you remember it wrong there could be a disaster of some kind, and even if you dont its so fcking 90s navigation.


Maybe create a new [SUG] thread about it. :D
[16:18:00] znc-rasp: We can kill bushido, but not bushifo, zack, moriarty, ghost rider, or darkling
[16:18:07] Req: Is that all the same person?
[16:18:12] symba: yea
[16:18:25] mob: my kids are like dad why are you laughing so much

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Nov 8th 2021, 18:16:52

With the current UI, I'd think a right-click (on the country name or #) -> context menu for things you can do to interact with that country would be cool.

That way, you don't have a million links cluttering up the screen if you don't want them.

Bug Game profile

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Nov 9th 2021, 6:45:47

^^ I like that idea a lot..

But, alas.. no development..

Gerdler Game profile

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Nov 9th 2021, 21:13:03

I think that can be done with a browser plugin that anyone can make, no?

Requiem Game profile

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Nov 9th 2021, 22:48:43

I didn't think about that, but yes, a plugin could be made to do that.

Slagpit Game profile

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May 10th 2024, 4:30:49

Would this still be useful? I tried to have this conversation in another place but it didn't go anywhere.

SuperFly Game profile

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May 10th 2024, 6:17:43

On the subject of dead countries / deleted countries can they show up on scores at the end of the set? I was looking for who was deleted in express last round and couldn’t find it until badonkadonks said it was him lol

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May 10th 2024, 13:10:26

No, allowing deleted countries to show up on final ranks means that a cheater could win even after being deleted. You can view the country owners of dead countries after the round ends by creating the right url: https://www.earthempires.com/express/753/ranks/91

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May 11th 2024, 4:17:04

Yes. It would be awesome. For the same reasons as above
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Slagpit Game profile

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May 11th 2024, 16:20:23

I added a forward lookup in the country search results. It only finds the next country, if it exists, and doesn't search recursively.

I assume that this meets the primary need?

Edited By: Slagpit on May 12th 2024, 15:08:55
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