I'm pretty sure the majority of you are saying he has been cheating forever and it's about time something got done about it...

IMP leadership is for sure. you are the only one differentiating the two. (bomber, that means keeping them separate from each other)

all I am saying is that it looks like the same argument. and same result.

I can only speak for what I was involved with years ago.

Lol is this one of prime/rico's 'returning old schoolers'?

ya one who thumped alot of peeps including u in the past

bomber

I sent Primeval an old number of "Rico's" so are they the same person or not? This number is from 2012 I believe. Found it in an old phone. http://imgur.com/ibN2Xwg

Also Mob sent me 533 of the same messages. http://imgur.com/iijLHX7

LOL

now now that sure is funny ----> http://imgur.com/iijLHX7

Only 500 mob?

jagernacht


so tell me what clan are you in, and how long have you been playing?

reason i ask is because if you havent been playing since the second reset of the old earth2025 u a puppy and needs to be taught a lesson

soooo

where ya be punk ass

You guys,


First of all, assumption is the mother of all fluff ups. That counts when making leadership decisions, admin decisions or whatever decision you attempt to make. Looking at this thread it's FULL OF assumptions. So guess what you guys are all breeding on?

I've lead succesful FFA tags with the brothers in it. (AoDT, CC and maybe he was even in Project DOOM can't remember)

I personally can not for 100% gaurantee that Donny/Billy is a legit duo playing or even were a legit duo when I lead. Why not? Because while i've seen and heard the duo playing. There's no 100% gaurantee that they are legit (as goes for any safelisting).
Besides that it is not MY or YOUR decision to delete / ban him. It's that of the mods and admins. And when it comes to having principals most people believe their judgement should be trusted (atleast from what I read)

Looking at how a 1a situation unfolded a few years back where RD hacked into GHQ and other clansites. We started by gathering viable and solid evidence of the breach. We by research made a case so tight that there could be no discussion about the who, what, where and when. There was no questioning, no gray area. It lead to bans, account deletions and the FULL RD tag being deleted. That is how radical or violent our admins/moderators will respond to hard proof of foul play. When it comes to grey areas "proof of foul play" it's up to the admins to decide how they wish to deal with it.


Looking at the current situation Donny and billy have been deleted and reinstated. I suspect because the grey area leaned in their favor. With no solid proof, this comes to a mod/admin decision. With no hard evidence of anything (in their favor or against them). Personally i'd say, respect whatever the admins decide and move on. If at a certain point you do manage to gather hard proof / evidence. Build your case and provide it to the admins/mods.


So unless IMPers/anti CC'ers are busy running a mass anti CC/Donny/Billy public propaganda campaign(which is your decision not mine), this discussion is pointless. Respect your admins/mods and the hard decisions they have to make in that "grey area".

Meh some people just don't have the integrity not to be a cheat. These are the people that would find a wallet on the sidewalk, take the cash out and throw it in the trash. Instead of calling the owner. Donny is that person.

Say the people who are in one of hte biggest cheating tags out of FFA history. IMP / Takers. Bots, multies, deletions every set? Yet do I go around blaming you atm without hard proof?

I'm good. I've never seen anyone making any of those claims about me.

I'm not defending or attacking anyone in this case. Just saying people are trying to use different measurements to justify their reasoning. It doesn't work that way.

Agreed.



Also agreed.



You suspect wrong. I will not give further details on this since it could be considered "privileged" information. I will say that you are completely wrong. Its not your fault, really. You just don't understand what happened.



Agreed again.



Agreed a fourth time. Especially the "admins" part.

That's okay primeval. But aslong as there is no solid proof provided to admins of these guys cheating leading to their deletion or ban. I can't speak for or against them. Simple as that.

Who's to say that didn't happen and you're just not aware of it?

if there's aliens then where are they?

so like, admins are like area51. or the secret government, like, gnarly dude!

they should just tell us cuz we have a right to know, we're citizens of this galaxy!

They are not my aliens! I refuse to accept their ascendancy to the supreme council!