I for one commend Maki, Arsenal, KJ and han, for an entertaining out look on this game. Don't be ashamed of your cut throat antics, don't be afraid to be the bully of the server either but in saying that how you (han) got the chat log is questionable no matter what you say and that's everyone on this servers opinion, possible hack if so that's not on and you should be assholed from the game for that soul reason, innocent till proven guilty, never the less this adds spice to this game we share, it fuels the fires of vengeance and vendetta.Bloody beautiful lad's! pat yourselves on the back!

I've been trolling LaF tonight and I feel I owe them an apology...sorry... LaF played this war like a BOSS, I shouldn't be so bias, the whole rooting for the under dog thing crossed my mind. MD though a valiant effort and nice display of stonewalling you need to call in SoL before you end this set being down trouted, SoL need to be dragged into it for obvious reasons and it's only right you do, that intern bringing in the FDPs, make sure evo gets a call up they seem to be getting the "get out of free jail" card, they need to be thrown in front of the judge and jury like you have been.

SoL and evo need to put their nuts on the table like MD did and be accountable for your antics, no matter how much pride Arsenal has you just need to help them out like good mates should you can't just stand there and watch their destruction. You guys would have a better chance at dismantling LaF together, as you know the FDP's will be running in like a rabid pack of wolves but that is what you expected,I'm sure you've got a defensive game to accommodate your offensive game. All I'm saying is get it all over and done with and let the healing process begin with the other alliances you rubbished! evo needs to be stomped like bugs you guys made a fluff choice making them the third alliance I would have chosen SoF or LCN or PDM some one with bit more clout, evo just look like weasels now thanks to KJ.

I honestly love this fluff the fight for power, the fight to be the modern day villains just like the good old days,keep's me entertained and away from porn.

Jolly good show!

i honestly forgive Evo because SS wronged them by FSing them for no reason two resets ago. to this day i don't know why SS did it.

i already told Evo this also before this reset began and we seemed to come to a mutual understanding there.

Sure you do... He didn't like them.

Evo are good at weaseling out of things, we even have a Head called weasel. Thats all good, but our horrible attempts at being dirty little butt weasels seemed to have failed 2 sets ago when we had a pact broken on us and blindsided and last set when we war prepped with a clear plan to hitting LaF ended up being hit by SoF OOP, beating them down, signing peace deals with LaF, and then having that pact broken again and beaten down by LaF.

You have a horribly skewed perception of the events that have happened. You don't have a clue really.

you again... KJ

"signing peace deals with LaF, and then having that pact broken again and beaten down by LaF."

isn't that what the logs leaked are for? ;P

If you're smart enough to find those logs either legitimately or illegitimately, you should be smart enough to admit regardless of those logs that you broke pacts to hit us 2 sets in a row.

But your intelligence only extends itself when it suits LaF's image.

what are you talking about KJ?

We already stated the reason we hit Evo last reset was due to the discovery of these logs and the planning that was going on.

If you can't make sense out of why we did what we did, then you are the one with the skewed perception.

i already said last reset in that big flame thread and to qzjul

you showed me how to void that pact with your chat log, so i did what you wanted to do to us.

you have a problem with that KJ?

you created the pact to be voided that way, and i followed your plan to the T

let's dig up the big old flame thread:

http://forums.earthempires.com/...oke-a-pact-with-evolution

go reread that and tell me my perception is "skewed"

just for the record KJ did you really say all that in the log or is it edited? we the community DEMAND your honesty!

Logs were too long for me to read. Someone summarize for me in regards to my questions below!

Was there a clause in your pact that made it OK to break your pact and in these logs was EVO plotting to break it? Just because a UNAP is signed doesn't mean that the problems between 2 alliances automatically go away. An alliance does have to prepare themselves for when a pact expires...

summary:

it was a 3 reset pact. Evo/SOL demanded a break clause on it.

the reason (as the recent revealed logs show) is because they wanted to use it to potentially GB us if the 1v1 MD/LaF war went bad. the whole "breakable if both at war with FDP"

it was signed in bad faith. they created all the terms too and tried to "shove it down my throat" as makinso claimed. the problem is when you leave a hole and you get caught, which is what happened, i feel like i have the same right to do it back at you (hence why rival/laf vs evo happened).

there's nothing wrong about using your own plan against you is there? if you didn't want things like that to happen, maybe don't think up stupid ideas in the future kj

Fair enough.

and i already warned you last reset multiple times in that big flame thread kj, but you were too stupid to realize and read between my lines.

According to the log they say that RD's just a bunch of Quintin Tarantino wannabe's, they add that Kill Bill is the best Tarantino film to date.

WAAAAAAR RD!!

hanlong, I've not denied that was the purpose of the pact I signed with you ever. The point was that pact was not in effect until this set as stated in the pact itself. For the remainder of last set we signed a STANDARD uNAP. Unbreakable pact, standard, no special clauses.... you broke that pact. You're too intelligent to try claim you thought out standard uNAP for that set contained special fancy clauses. But you will anyway as it suits your story.

i did thought that was our pact that reset.

remember the whole

"hlw :if you hit Rival/SoF we can hit you anyways" where i ended up going "whatever" fiasco that reset?

you were teh one that didn't clarify that you wanted the first reset out of the 3 total to be different, and if so i would've said no.

and anyways no need to convince ppl they can read all the logs and posts and decide for themselves.

Of course you would have. You can never stop lying. You even posted LaF's standard terms yourself in the conversation which was posted. But keep on lying hanlong, there are more interesting things now like which LaF member hacked Boxcar.

So the feeling now is that the logs were 100% NOT leaked?

KJ doesn't believe in accepting the obvious explanation. Grand conspiricy theories that are multi-layered make far more sense.

if (and really it doesn't matter) they were taken from boxcar, why were they on boxcar in the first place?

just a simple question for you KJ

lack of a better judgement?

Anyway, dude you being in PDM of all places is the weird. :)

*humps elves*

KJ should change his name to Mosquito

Fact : Most of the time, it's just someone wasn't careful with evidence. Not CIA hacking.

Hanlong, I'm confused, because you're saying all of those things that we decided long ago were false. You spoke with the Evo FA and threatened to break the pact to hit them and they told you that was incorrect and that the pact with special clauses was for the following set, wherein you had the whole "whatever". All of those logs which both sides agree are true are probably in that long flame thread you re-surfaced. How are you playing it off now that that was actually not the case?

Just because its's all of LaF vs KJ in this thread doesn't make it truth, and just because you have the new logs and a good reason to hit someone, doesn't make it okay to break pacts to do it.

Your friend plans to sleep with your wife, do you still plan on being friends with him?

Its pulp fiction noob :D

Stopped reading at "soul"

In the spirit of LCN, i shall speak.

*sole.

Quick question, how does SOL fit into this saga? I am just curious i have nothing to add.


Disregard I read the other thread and now understand.

KJ, we demand your resignation your not even popular with your allies, no one wants to sit with you at lunch and no one wants to come to your birthday party.

Have you been sleeping under a rock? SOL MD and evo want LaF, tried to politically play chess to put LaF in check, but then LaF found a log (suspicious) involving all three planing the move. LaF then counter moved putting MD in stale mate, forcing MD to the battlefield. and KJ is a little weasel.

seriously? again?

1) sign us to pact with abusable break clause

you tried to trick us with tricky pact

2) claim that abusable break clause only applies next set for when you are ready

pact was so tricky we never even considered the silly second trick you wanted to trick us with

oh and forgot:

0) lie and tell us the pact is the same as the sof pact which has an even trickier abusable break clause

enshula in with his best hanlong impersonation. fluffing alliance full of drones.

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't a miscomunication/evo threating to drop the pact with LaF that caused the first war, I remember we all were confused about who dropped what and when...

And the second time was because LaF knew about the shemes and said fluff it...

ya... they did all run that same early war startup....

The first LAF -> Evo was because of the PokeLaF theme and them breaking pacts.
The rest is the continuation of spin-spin politics.

No drones just heart here!

The WHOLE saga is very hard to follow...

At the end of the day, relating back to the school yard years. You could say as much smack as you wanted until the big kid turned up to kick your ass.

bonus

I'm bored, entertain me.

YOUR bored? why don't you entertain US with a war dec! or even sing us a song Rick Roll.

I guess disregard I have now read the other thread wasnt enough. The name calling on this thread I found more entertaining. I thought the other one was just a war declaration. It wasn't until you called it a saga that I realized there might of been some entertainment value on the other thread.

On a side note I do wonder at times if you guys realize this is just a game and no matter what happens here it has no bearing on real life. Only because you all seem to get so upset when the game doesn't go your way. I have been playing this game for 7 or 8 years and never once got upset because my country was killed or because my alliance lost a war. Who cares how or why it happened. "Gimme my ball I am going home" runs through my head often when reading these threads.

you lack passion a lot of people put a lot of time and effort in this game and you've just slapped with in the face. Shame on you!
People have hobbies eg fishing, car's, skateboarding etc etc well ours is running a country to kill or netgain with and we put a lot of time an effort into it for the fun factor, I understand when people get emotional about things here cause we dedicate our time to do so. You say you've played for 7 or 8 years but you still don't understand like a noob. So if you don't enjoy the emotional factor put in to this game TY then may be this games not for you.

Really this game is a hobby? You can play it 15 minutes a day or at most an hour. I play this game because i do have a passion, the people in my alliance. I truly love them. They are good people who I enjoy spending time with. The game is just a means to that end. I have true hobbies fishing, camping, spending time with my family and playing other games. The fact that you and others take it so seriously might mean you need to find other things to do with your lives. Of course I have things that have happened in my life that bring this game into perspective. A son that had his first open heart surgery at 14 months old. His last one at 14 years old and will have to have more. My dad died when I was quite young, as did 3 of my 4 grandparents, I struggle everyday to feed and clothe my family and put a roof over their head. This game just doesn't even come close to being important enough to be so emotional about it. If it does maybe you need to take a step back and reevaluate whats important in life.

TY, I think it goes without saying that everythin else in RL is more important than this game. The fact some of us gets emotional with this game doesn't mean the game is more important. Unlike those emotional people in this game, u have not put urself in their shoe. Going thru layers of lies and deceit in the negotiation room. U remain ignorant that like task pointed out, many individuals put alot of effort behind the scenes for the best interest of their tag. U do not care if ur country died and most ppl here don't either. But I'm sure ur leader doesn't view ur country as urs, but rather a part of tag.

Umm actually alliances scheming against another alliance makes it very okay to break pacts.

LaF would have had to be stupid not to have done everything they have done.

Evo/MD/SoL...you guys got caught out, and unfortunately MD you are getting the short end of the stick.

SoL & Evo...grow some balls and help your buddies MD!

If people are lying and being deceitful they too take this game and themselves way to seriously. I don't care who that might offend. It is just a game. There is no reason to be deceitful. If they truly have lied to you then they aren't worth the time it takes to even make a post about it. Just realize they can't be trusted and play your game accordingly.

Isn't that the way you live life? If someone is a known liar when they tell you something you verify it before you act on it or believe it. If it can't be verified one way or another you just go on the assumption they are lying.

I do find it amusing that my home, LCN, was intentionally put on will retal to try to gin up this political situation last reset. When I landgrabbed an MDer last reset I got this message about please don't do it again because it screwed them up, blah blah blah. What happened to the old MD.

Your stupid TY.

That's the game! being deceitful makes this game entertaining, one of many factors,it makes you display emotions! like right now for instance, you want to save the earth like a stupid hippy (lost)and me and TNT are trying to get through your thick head it's part of the game.(angry)