Fist i commend you guys for having the guts to do what the rest of us should do. No offence Pang for i do commend you for trying to save this game. Am i leaving? No plans to. Why? Because I have not yet stopped caring for ICN and its members. Plan and simple they are my family in a sence. I will go down with the ship if nessessary but i dont see it sinking yet.

I am open to talk to any clan who is tired of the bullies of this game and tired of people wanting to antagonize the rest of us. If any of the clans who are like us in wanting a mix of netting and war sets then see our leaders. I can see the only way to ever make a point is to group together and say enough is enough. Wishing the asshats away will never work. They are like cancer they need serious radiation.

now trolls. jump on that one.

EEVIL owns fist

Would like to point out that the numerous "ass whoopins" we have taken before haven't changed us externally much. If anything, those "ass whoopins" only made it worse for every other clan because it definitely makes us more... savage.

Scode is a great guy. My Idol. Love that dude. He was President when I first joined Alliance server (and iMag). I like to think he shaped me into what I am today mentally. But like iZarcon said, he put into place the system that I now act off of, the "playbook" if you will. If he were Prez today, I'm sure he would do way worse things to this game. Like make iMag top 3 in members. Imagine that one. 60 member iMag FSing all of you netting fluffs into war. Oh what joy that would bring us. :)

LOLOLOLOLOL

sorry but this is funny

not that they quit, but the fact that it's same fluff different server

and even funnier that LaF is still a major player in it

i've read this same exact thread at least 20 to 30 times over the last 10 years

CrazyDave speaks truth

I thought one of The Fist members and I had a good thing going with a land trading thing. I even asked him first and let him hit first, we did it for awhile it benefitted us both with ghost acres, as soon as he said he was finished I agreed and did not hit the Fist again. I dont know what topfeeds they are talking aboutm I though for sure we worked everything out through FA nicely, Rage doesnt have an impossible retal policy like some. If we hit you retal it or vice versa...seems logical to me

The RAGE stuff was last set, we did have a good thing with you guys this set. At the same time, the headaches we had over you and PDM last set were a bit too much ;) But it all builds up, we start hating the server mroe and more everytime a clan does an RoR and has some FA not do anything about it...

But as Spawn said, you, PDM and LaF were pretty minor factors in the end. LaF was a factor this set but not previously, you guys last set but not this set. Mostly iMag.

I would say I somewhat like Fist. You did some good grabbing which I respect and you didn't have bullfluff policies. I`m talking in general as I wasn't very active this set.

Saying iMag drove you, while maybe true, is not being honest. It is probably true that you feel we did it. You probably see us as the server bullies, preying on small clans and trying to inflate our egos. At least someone thinks that since I have read it on this board several times.

Truth is, iMag did FS you in reset #3 of EE. We didn't FS you because we wanted to bully you, but because we had a reason. You might say that reason was just an excuse, but I can only say that I personally was involved in target selection for that set. I personally found your countries FAing TIE countries the set before while we were warring TIE and that I personally pushed for a FS on Fist. Anyhow, after that FS you whined, trolled and made threats.

LCN declared on us later that set. I cant say for sure, but I strongly believe it had nothing to do with Fist and had something to do with our grabs and their retals.

Reset #4, you joined LCN and if I remember correctly LCN went all commie and FSed us. It was an awesome FS. We were destroyed. You gloated, you trolled and you made further threats. You were happy, you had a good time, you thought we are done.

We don`t work that way. The best thing about iMag is its persistence. Its determination.

Set after that, if I remember correctly, we had no contact. There were some grabs, but nothing special. Did you think it`s over? You had your revenge, why wouldnt we have ours? Did you really think iMag would leave it be? We survived this long because we don`t leave it be.

Someone will probably say, "grudge wars are bad LOL", but what did Fist and LCN do on reset #3? That wasn't a grudge war?

And we come to this set, you get FSed, yet say you wanted to leave before the FS. And you blame iMag for it. Ok, I have no problem with that. Blame whomever you want, but you cant say iMag bullied you when we had a reason for the first war and you FSed us set after that.

Again, some might attack the validity of the original reason. It was valid to me, and it was valid to iMag. That`s all we want. We have no need for the server to approve our wars.

For the end, I find it very interesting the fact that you are all 'hating the server more and more', yet you continue to post frequently. If you are really leaving, self delete now, make a statement and have a good life.

ibujke: Do you think the war with LCN against you had something to do with Soviet threatening us on AT and iMag denying us a uNAP? Obviously there was some element of retaliation involved, both LCN and Fist were pissed off at iMag, but fact is we were told that you guys were going to hit us again AND we had a uNAP refused...

So there goes your excuse for this set ;)

And we still think the original "reason" was crap because we had no FA contact from you guys and we still insist it was one country sending FA.

All I can say is 'blah, blah.' I've done maybe 10 landgrabs in the Alliance Server. Mainly I'm too lazy/don't have enough time to look the stuff up.

Blaming the politics of the game is stupid in my opinion. The politics have changed with the times and evolved. If enough people get fed up then they just institute new policies. Some of us remember the great top-feeding battles in the early part of the decade very end of the 90s. Really I'm thinking of Griffey burning up all my jets as an offensive ally. Needless to say, the politics changed with the times.

We had no reason to give a uNAP. You threatened us as well, so this is moot.



And iMag was pissed off at you. You are saying being "pissed off" is a valid war reason? Or that you dont mind wars for no or invalid reasons?



We dont need an excuse. As far as I`m concerned the war with Fist didnt end two sets ago.



I dont have a problem with you feeling wronged. I do have a problem with you and some other people not saying the full story. The only iMag war in EE that was reasonless was the one against Laf. Honestly I considered that war a 'thank you' to Pang.

Anyhow, fact is TIE received a considerable amount of FA and you were caught doing it. I think its safe to assume you did most of it. As for FA contact, why would it be mandatory? Did you make FA contact before FAing TIE? Did you make FA contact before FSing iMag the set after?

"Anyhow, fact is TIE received a considerable amount of FA and you were caught doing it. I think its safe to assume you did most of it."

I keep saying this - we had ONE country FAing. You have NEVER shown proof to the contrary.

"We dont need an excuse. As far as I`m concerned the war with Fist didnt end two sets ago."
What about LCN? Or are you too chickenfluff to hit a bigger alliance?

"We had no reason to give a uNAP. You threatened us as well, so this is moot."
We might have been insulting you, but threatening... unlikely (just do the numbers - same reason you're scared of LCN...). Find me a quote.

And I wont show you proof. I have no need to prove it to you or anyone else outside iMag. I`m just saying it was not a reasonless war. No matter how 'crap' you think the reason is. As for one country comment, re read what I wrote about it, the same thing you quoted.



You keep bringing LCN into this talk. I thought this was about Fist. Does it matter whats going to happen between iMag and LCN? You are saying we drove you away for no other reason than to bully you. I am saying you could have ended the war in set #4 but you chose not to. We dont net, we have few reasons to avoid warring.



Ok, insulting, works fine for me. And why should I be finding you a quote when you provided no quotes of Soviet?

Again with LCN, go join them already. Why would you say LCN FSed us during the first iMag vs Fist war? I was told by them that we provoked them on purpose. Would we really do that if we are scared? Or is LCN lying and FSed us for no good reason?

Ok, you're retarded:
- you obviously don't understand the point I'm making with LCN
- you obviously don't understand that if SOL said "iMag FAed LaF" and FSed you, the reason would be crap - much in the same way your reason for hitting Fist originally was
- you obviously don't understand that your leaders threatened LCN and Fist on the boards and denied us a pact

So yeah, I'm done with you as well. You started our borderline reasonable but turned to retard-iMagger pretty fast.

So you chose to avoid further talk? Is this how you handle FA talks as well?

I don't understand the point you're making with LCN, that is correct.

You obviously don't understand that if SOL said "iMag FAed LaF" and FSed us, the reason wouldn't be crap, provided iMag actually FAed LaF - much in the same way our reason for hitting Fist originally wasn't.
That`s what I`m trying to tell you. You don't see it as a valid reason, we do.

"- you obviously don't understand that your leaders threatened LCN and Fist on the boards and denied us a pact"

Did I deny that? Anywhere?

Done with me as well? How many notches you got already?

bujke stop arguing vs Fisters. You always lose. Haven't you learned that in the many months at #fist? I mean you got owned so many times it stopped being funny.

I truly hate to see anyone leave the game that is already low on membership. FIST players who want to stay around are more than welcome to apply to RAGE. We can always use grabbers and retallers like you!

QQ!

Its a game of numbers. If you dont have the numbers to back you up then thats nobodys fault but your own.

(Necro'ing threads FTW :P)

spawn still swallows

Fist- if your going to quit just do it. Stop replying and crying over spilled milk. I got no respect for quitters. As far as the game goes- Things like this are bound to happen anywhere. For many people when the going gets tough- they get going. For me- even back when i wasnt in a clan back on old earth- i got farmed to dirt- then i got better and made a solo war against that clan (ELY) till their VP apologised to me and they left me alone. I took the hard rode-


I guess this is really just evoloution- the strong survive.

road not rode ..... just sayin

/me crys the mississippi river.

consider yourself warned BadFish for your pointless random insulting me.
i asked the admins if i could warn you the last time you did and they said i could.

Deerhunter, in Germany there is a saying "der klügere gibt nach", thats what we did.
and i got no respect for a guy that makes a serious post atfter almost 2 months, i guess we're even now

huhwut

Failmod!

Warn people in private, not public.

Moderator 101!

i'm not a forum mod, so i really dont care about the moderator 101 Twink

You still represent this game and you are informing people they are warned.
You also stated the admins said you could warn, therefore you have authority on these forums.

Think before posting.

i have no authority to do anything on the forums, forum mod != game mod

representing ok, but what did i exactly represent with my post? that you cant post repeated insults without any consequences.
if i didnt you would be the first to cry about the mods/admins not being transparent enough...

Didn't you quit the game? Why are you still posting/crying on AT?

How's being SOL's landfarm working out for you?

someone has to delete your FFA countries Soviet

ohhhh..... spawn cried and stomped his feet to get his way.

thought eevil knocked you guys out of EE. dont go away mad just go away.....


as you said you have no authority in EE and i havent heard nothing from any admins.... so in that case

Smikke - SOL isn't a threat to anyone on the server, so is it worth being a landfarm to see maki so butthurt? Ofcourse!

Spawn- I havent and don't plan to play ffa so I don't know what you're talking about. But all I see from you is complaint after complaint after complaint over Alliance politics, yet your solution was to quit. Fine job, you got me.

lol if you don't think SOL is a threat to all of the server still soviet...

Fist : CRY MOAR. OH PLEASE!!! The sound of you guys crying makes me very excited. The moar you cry the moar i excitedLOLOLOL

Grow a pair and get back in the game, we'll farm you for old time's sake, then let you on your way.

Or you can keep whining here about how we're getting "owned' by SOL :)

Sov plays FFA????

Spawn's an FFA mod idiots, hence he still reads the forums and follows what goes on in the game.

lol@whining Xeno. We made one post about SOL and iMag, followed by 4 iMagers coming here and crying. Sounds kind of like you guys might be a bit more upset about SOL than you're letting on ;)

Hey smikke. Do you understand the title of this thread? LOL. "The fist leaves EE."

In other words...

FIST : WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! RAGEQUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE BEE BOO BEE BOO BEE BOO BEE BOO BEE BOO

BadFish banned for a while by admins

I find it funny that Imag still here crying while Fist having a great time in the new game.

I'm not really sure why this thread is still going strong. Not that I'm helping kill it, but this DID happen quite a while ago...

Imag seems to have the blue balls syndrome for Fist

to everyone flaming on this thread:

let's just calm things down and end this debate, i'm closing the thread.