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Symac

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Jul 27th 2014, 4:07:42

The issue is who Qz asks for ideas from lol.

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Jul 27th 2014, 4:25:29

Originally posted by Viceroy:
Originally posted by euglaf:
laf has had to deal with a very large number of suiciders the past 2-3 sets and nothing was ever done about it.


Maybe everyone should ask themselves why these suiciders are as determined as they are. Karma is a fluff.


Dont be silly those netters could never do anything wrong!!!
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tellarion Game profile

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Jul 27th 2014, 4:53:38

Originally posted by Symac:
The issue is who Qz asks for ideas from lol.


xinhuan is, or at least has been, a huge contributor of ideas. qz often bounces ideas off of me and some of the active evoers, but it is definitely not limited to that. He asks questions on the mod board, he actually DOES read the suggestions board regularly, he has a whole development sub forum that many community members have access to. I really don't think any one source has bigger influence on his thinking than others. Hell, martian is probably the biggest one....

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Jul 27th 2014, 5:28:50

Originally posted by tellarion:
Originally posted by Symac:
The issue is who Qz asks for ideas from lol.


xinhuan is, or at least has been, a huge contributor of ideas. qz often bounces ideas off of me and some of the active evoers, but it is definitely not limited to that. He asks questions on the mod board, he actually DOES read the suggestions board regularly, he has a whole development sub forum that many community members have access to. I really don't think any one source has bigger influence on his thinking than others. Hell, martian is probably the biggest one....

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Jul 27th 2014, 9:30:19

it's me.

Alin Game profile

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Jul 27th 2014, 10:13:14

was the suicider found by name/user ? What are the measures that are going to be taken, against him, by his alliance?

Ivan Game profile

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Jul 27th 2014, 10:32:29


So eug your against suiciders but when you can actually do something about it (outting another lafer) you dont care about it? thats sort of funny instead you could take steps against it and im sure other alliance leaders around earth would do the same

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Jul 27th 2014, 10:55:36

Oh, I am sure they would. ;)

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Jul 27th 2014, 12:12:12

I would if they were actually an Evo member and you asked me. The reason I haven't done so in the past was because I never knew of any Evo members suiciding, aside from KJ. And that is despite the accusations for at least a solid year about certain Evoers doing so(without providing a single shred of evidence).

Just sayin..

Ivan Game profile

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Jul 27th 2014, 17:55:19

So far i havnt met a single head in any alliance thats been pro suiciders Symac so yeah im sure they would

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Jul 27th 2014, 19:14:20

im sure ive said multiple times this was one of the dumb parts about the restart change

anyone who has a country killed must have it linked with the previous country in order to get the bonuses

if you want to be anonymous you dont get the bonuses

perhaps its ok to allow countries to be anonymous within a tag but then they shouldnt be allowed to leave the tag without losing the bonuses

and once a country achieves sufficient mass you cant stop it suiciding, all it needs to do is die with enough stuff on hand to steal more stuff

i havnt even looked at this country but if its as effective as the ones that hit laf it will probably suicide a few more times this set

sure we could all agree on longer tag responsibility, in particular i dont like people vacationing for 3 days then suiciding, id always rather time count only while a country is killable

but even if whole reset or cross reset or affiliation responsibility is agreed upon or enforced that just opens up much more efficient suiciding

locket Game profile

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Jul 27th 2014, 19:40:49

I like that idea Enshula. If someone wants to leave a tag after death they lose those bonuses.

I'd also love to know which member had that country :P

Chewi Game profile

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Jul 27th 2014, 20:03:44

Country ownership should be open after end of set.

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Jul 27th 2014, 20:19:43

Originally posted by Chewi:
Country ownership should be open after end of set.

mdevol Game profile

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Jul 27th 2014, 20:58:03

Originally posted by locket:


I'd also love to know which member had that country :P


We all would. As you have already seen, the LaF hFA has already distanced it from LaF, claiming not to know who it is, despite it clearly being #138's restart.

They wont tell us who it was. Dont hold your breath.
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Symac

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Jul 27th 2014, 21:37:04

This constant spin is why I would never trust you or SoL while you are leading. I didn't distance anything, didn't know who it was when I posted.
I'm certainly not announcing on AT who it was, and nor would it matter. No one outside of LaF would even know the person.

Alin Game profile

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Jul 27th 2014, 21:45:17

and why would some unknown person would suicide on Evo with such passion, if he is some loyal Lafer nobody outside would know?

What are his reasons behind that suicide?

P.S: i just think you guys are hiding something and i care less what that is.
The problem here is some of you are hypocrites. When someone suicides on Laf you are
" omg they are killing the game - please Pang/Qz modify the rules, modify everything; omfg look AT look what they did to us, they drive the players away"

However, when some of your own does it on somebody else you take it so lightly at careless..

Edited By: Alin on Jul 28th 2014, 6:15:15

locket Game profile

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Jul 27th 2014, 22:03:07

I might know the person!

Ershow Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 0:38:40

What a douche....

Sorry to see this Herbs.

I was looking forward to watching you and the Omegan battle it out for top spot.

tellarion Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 1:53:23

Originally posted by Symac:
This constant spin is why I would never trust you or SoL while you are leading. I didn't distance anything, didn't know who it was when I posted.
I'm certainly not announcing on AT who it was, and nor would it matter. No one outside of LaF would even know the person.


Ah, so you admit it was a laffer then? I'm just curious how you will handle it at this point. Ban them from laf for a set? What?

Symac

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Jul 28th 2014, 2:02:44

I think it's been handled, being the player is done with the game.

tellarion Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 3:31:47

Which player? And what happens when he suicides again?

Heston Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 3:47:45

Originally posted by Alin:
was the suicider found by name/user ? What are the measures that are going to be taken, against him, by his alliance?

Originally posted by tellarion:
Which player? And what happens when he suicides again?


Originally posted by Alin:
and why would some unknown person would suicideing on Evo with such passion, if he is some loyal Lafer nobody outside would know?

What are his reasons behind that suicide?

P.S: i just think you guys are hiding something and i care less what that is.
The problem here is some of you are hypocrites. When someone suicides on Laf you are
" omg they are killing the game - please Pang/Qz modify the rules, modify everything; omfg look AT look what they did to us, they drive the players away"

However, when some of your own does it on somebody else you take it so lightly at careless..


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Jul 28th 2014, 3:50:41

Originally posted by Symac:
I think it's been handled, being the player is done with the game.


Yet his new restart just logged in 2.5 hours ago?

mdevol Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 4:38:41

Originally posted by Cornfed:
Originally posted by Symac:
I think it's been handled, being the player is done with the game.


Yet his new restart just logged in 2.5 hours ago?



dont let facts get in the way of a good story...


he can call it spin all he wants, it is the truth.

LaF wont admit to it, they wont give up who it was and they will be back in LaF next reset.
Likely he was directed or got he okay to do this.

Edited By: mdevol on Jul 28th 2014, 4:41:09
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iScode Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 4:50:27

Originally posted by mdevol:
Originally posted by Cornfed:
Originally posted by Symac:
I think it's been handled, being the player is done with the game.


Yet his new restart just logged in 2.5 hours ago?



dont let facts get in the way of a good story...


he can call it spin all he wants, it is the truth.

LaF wont admit to it, they wont give up who it was and they will be back in LaF next reset.
Likely he was directed or got he okay to do this.


god you are hilarious :)
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Jul 28th 2014, 4:57:59

Originally posted by iScode:
Originally posted by Requiem:
Tella whether or not it is a LaF restart I cannot say, because I do not know. I will assure you that if it is a LaF restart he is acting alone and not in collusion with any LaF leadership.

You may doubt it but we do not endorse suciders. We put up with our fair share of suciders every set. It sucks when they target you. Its a pain in the fluff.

I can assure you it's not Candy Man. I talk to Candy often so I know it's not him. Also Candy has been vacationing (real life) and he has been playing around with programming. He ain't playing this game. He does still check the boards from time to time though.

Suciders is an issue with this game and needs to be addressed as they serve no good purpose , in my opinion. They are keen to cancer, and in real life if we could get rid of cancer wouldn't we?


In your opinion, which luckily is not important to the game.

Suidiciders are the only thing to keep the game in check for individuals who do not agree how the general population play there for is a very vital part of game play.


ur right for a change.. which is sad in this aspect. suiciders are the only way some people can get redemption for feeling wronged.. it happens. and it blows.. this is why i dont netgain.

tellarion Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 5:05:59

The only issue, to me, is that one suicider can ruin dozens of people's sets. It takes 6+ people to kill one country. Bit of a mismatch there...

Boltar Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 5:08:42

imagine if they are skilled enough. and if the tag isnt as big as evo/laf/sof/sol/md etc.., imagine like omega or DK. they entire tag could be fluffed if the person was good enough suiciding on them

Viceroy Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 5:19:44

Transparency would go a long way towards discouraging suiciders. Make profiles public!
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mdevol Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 5:32:40

Originally posted by iScode:
Originally posted by mdevol:
Originally posted by Cornfed:
Originally posted by Symac:
I think it's been handled, being the player is done with the game.


Yet his new restart just logged in 2.5 hours ago?



dont let facts get in the way of a good story...


he can call it spin all he wants, it is the truth.

LaF wont admit to it, they wont give up who it was and they will be back in LaF next reset.
Likely he was directed or got he okay to do this.


god you are hilarious :)


where am i wrong in this?

he has already flat out lied about "it was already dealt with, as he quit playing the game" except that he made a new restart and is playing said restart as recent as yesterday. YOU of all people have no weight in this other than trolling.


what are they hiding? if it's a member that quit and he/she is a member that not many would recognize, wouldn't it make MUCH more sense to just put it out there, denounce it, pay reps, and move on? They did not choose that path. they chose the "nothing to see here, move along" " path. THEY chose it. what are they hiding?
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Symac

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Jul 28th 2014, 5:36:06

Originally posted by mdevol:
Originally posted by Cornfed:
Originally posted by Symac:
I think it's been handled, being the player is done with the game.


Yet his new restart just logged in 2.5 hours ago?



dont let facts get in the way of a good story...


he can call it spin all he wants, it is the truth.

LaF wont admit to it, they wont give up who it was and they will be back in LaF next reset.
Likely he was directed or got he okay to do this.

You are a fluffing moron. You ever think by done with the game means this is his last set? Means he doesn't plan to play again? No because you are either the dumbest mother fluffer I have ever seen or all you know how to do is battle semantics, and they aren't mutually exclusive so probably both are true.

Sure a lot of whining about suiciding in this thread. It's funny and deserved when it happens to LaF though right? Maybe some development changes are needed to combat griefing.

This will be the last post on the subject. It's resolved via 1 less player playing the game, likely due to consistent poor design choices.

iScode Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 5:50:18

Originally posted by mdevol:
Originally posted by iScode:
Originally posted by mdevol:
Originally posted by Cornfed:
Originally posted by Symac:
I think it's been handled, being the player is done with the game.


Yet his new restart just logged in 2.5 hours ago?



dont let facts get in the way of a good story...


he can call it spin all he wants, it is the truth.

LaF wont admit to it, they wont give up who it was and they will be back in LaF next reset.
Likely he was directed or got he okay to do this.


god you are hilarious :)


where am i wrong in this?

he has already flat out lied about "it was already dealt with, as he quit playing the game" except that he made a new restart and is playing said restart as recent as yesterday. YOU of all people have no weight in this other than trolling.


what are they hiding? if it's a member that quit and he/she is a member that not many would recognize, wouldn't it make MUCH more sense to just put it out there, denounce it, pay reps, and move on? They did not choose that path. they chose the "nothing to see here, move along" " path. THEY chose it. what are they hiding?


So because I dont conform to your socialist rules I now have no weight in this.

I think as someone who has recently suicided I have a lot of weight in this.

Suiciders are people too, just because you dont agree with how they play doesnt make it wrong. Just how because I dont agree with l:l, landtraging, bottomfeeding and defensless countries thinking they can get away with what ever they want, doesnt mean what they do is wrong.

You really are quite retarded when it comes to alliance politics and policies and debating your stance on AT. I am unsure why SOL continue to allow you to post when you are a leader (Like admitting to me I never actually denied being in SOF, then calling me a liar the very next day on AT lol)
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tellarion Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 5:57:47

Originally posted by mdevol:
Originally posted by iScode:
Originally posted by mdevol:
Originally posted by Cornfed:
Originally posted by Symac:
I think it's been handled, being the player is done with the game.


Yet his new restart just logged in 2.5 hours ago?



dont let facts get in the way of a good story...


he can call it spin all he wants, it is the truth.

LaF wont admit to it, they wont give up who it was and they will be back in LaF next reset.
Likely he was directed or got he okay to do this.


god you are hilarious :)


where am i wrong in this?

he has already flat out lied about "it was already dealt with, as he quit playing the game" except that he made a new restart and is playing said restart as recent as yesterday. YOU of all people have no weight in this other than trolling.


what are they hiding? if it's a member that quit and he/she is a member that not many would recognize, wouldn't it make MUCH more sense to just put it out there, denounce it, pay reps, and move on? They did not choose that path. they chose the "nothing to see here, move along" " path. THEY chose it. what are they hiding?


They don't even have to pay reps. He was never tagged Laf with that country, so whatever. He IS a Laf member though, and if one of MY members had done something like that, I'd want to make it right with Laf, probably ban the member for a set, and apologize for the bother. If I've learned anything in this game, especially over the past year or so, it's that this fluff ALWAYS comes out eventually. I will find out who played that country one way or the other, and it only serves to tarnish Laf's reputation by trying to sweep it under the rug and ignore it...

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Jul 28th 2014, 6:01:38

"one way or the other"


LMAO
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Jul 28th 2014, 6:06:34

Shhhhhhhhh


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Alin Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 6:08:15

iScode you are a proven liar and still you are beating the same " i didn't denied it " card.

You denied it until it was not possible anymore to deny it - hoping Tella used his mod powers to find out that info. You were wrong, you lied and you had Sovs backup.

Now shut the fluff up :)

iScode Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 6:14:28

Originally posted by Alin:
iScode you are a proven liar and still you are beating the same " i didn't denied it " card.

You denied it until it was not possible anymore to deny it - hoping Tella used his mod powers to find out that info. You were wrong, you lied and you had Sovs backup.

Now shut the fluff up :)


I didnt lie, notice how after my post tellas posted, then closed the thread not allowing me to rebuttal, go read my defense again, Im not a dirty gypsy like you.

And no I will not shut the fluff up

FYI if one mod did use there powers to cheat, I know that for a fact :).
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Alin Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 6:20:11

FYI if one mod did use there powers to cheat, I know that for a fact :).


"if" and "fact" lol.
And i already told you that you are more of a gypsy than i am :).

You have been proved several times with quotes of your own post ( and others ) that you are just a liar. You tried to deny because your dumb-fluffed team tought tella was abusing his powers. You wanted tella exposed and had not reasons to admit it.

Flash-news, he did not.
More FLASH-NEWS - you won`t be to happy if the investigation will be made public.

tellarion Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 6:22:28

Originally posted by iScode:
Originally posted by Alin:
iScode you are a proven liar and still you are beating the same " i didn't denied it " card.

You denied it until it was not possible anymore to deny it - hoping Tella used his mod powers to find out that info. You were wrong, you lied and you had Sovs backup.

Now shut the fluff up :)


I didnt lie, notice how after my post tellas posted, then closed the thread not allowing me to rebuttal, go read my defense again, Im not a dirty gypsy like you.

And no I will not shut the fluff up

FYI if one mod did use there powers to cheat, I know that for a fact :).


Interesting how you seem to know that, but martian said it didn't happen. Have any more baseless accusations to throw out?

Nobody cares about you scode. The only reason people, myself included, kept bringing up your name this set is because Sov said you were banned for a set, yet you were playing there. It's not about you, it's about Sov and Sof's word.

And besides, I never have to 'abuse' my power to find stuff out; people talk. I've already had multiple people offer up info about the suicider. Same thing with you earlier: someone told me.

Symac

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Jul 28th 2014, 6:24:03

It was candyman.

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Jul 28th 2014, 6:26:30

it was me

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Ershow Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 6:30:58

Simple fix. All restarts are automatically assigned the tag they were wearing when killed and must remain in the tag for 72 hours. That would go a long way to solving the current issue where restarts with mountains of stock are free to do whatever they please but the alliance that made that stock possible is not liable.

Ershow Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 6:33:27

...although that would suck for someone like me who likes to farm the untagged before they tag up...

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Jul 28th 2014, 6:33:42

yeha

iScode Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 6:33:47

Originally posted by Alin:
FYI if one mod did use there powers to cheat, I know that for a fact :).


"if" and "fact" lol.
And i already told you that you are more of a gypsy than i am :).

You have been proved several times with quotes of your own post ( and others ) that you are just a liar. You tried to deny because your dumb-fluffed team tought tella was abusing his powers. You wanted tella exposed and had not reasons to admit it.

Flash-news, he did not.
More FLASH-NEWS - you won`t be to happy if the investigation will be made public.


Yes I will actually, and have responded to those posts
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tellarion Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 6:35:44

iScode, did you play 3 countries in Sof this set?

iScode Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 6:36:40

Originally posted by tellarion:
Originally posted by iScode:
Originally posted by Alin:
iScode you are a proven liar and still you are beating the same " i didn't denied it " card.

You denied it until it was not possible anymore to deny it - hoping Tella used his mod powers to find out that info. You were wrong, you lied and you had Sovs backup.

Now shut the fluff up :)


I didnt lie, notice how after my post tellas posted, then closed the thread not allowing me to rebuttal, go read my defense again, Im not a dirty gypsy like you.

And no I will not shut the fluff up

FYI if one mod did use there powers to cheat, I know that for a fact :).


Interesting how you seem to know that, but martian said it didn't happen. Have any more baseless accusations to throw out?

Nobody cares about you scode. The only reason people, myself included, kept bringing up your name this set is because Sov said you were banned for a set, yet you were playing there. It's not about you, it's about Sov and Sof's word.

And besides, I never have to 'abuse' my power to find stuff out; people talk. I've already had multiple people offer up info about the suicider. Same thing with you earlier: someone told me.


only another mod could of told you, no one else knew, so which mod abused there powers tella? or you not prepared to admit it you know who it was?
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iScode Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 6:37:11

Originally posted by tellarion:
iScode, did you play 3 countries in Sof this set?


AS I keep saying, I will respond when you show me this so called proof you have :)
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tellarion Game profile

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Jul 28th 2014, 6:43:34

iScode, you were already sold out and Sof admitted you played there this set, although they say it was without their knowledge.

And yet you keep asking for proof? I guess you can claim you never lied because you will never, ever admit the truth, even when your own alliance is contradicting you.

Once again, before martian comes in and locks this thread, stop accusing people of abusing their powers without evidence. IF you have evidence, submit it to martian and he will investigate it. It was already investigated, and myself and others have all been cleared. Would you like me to link the post for you again?