how To make sure you never lose a war:

Drop acres to 1k for insane spal
Dump entire stock become 100m raw break
Sit with 30b cash on hand to top up sdi
Never run a turn

Claim moral Derrick victory

It can still be killed.

2020-01-26 23:40 267 Pink American Taco (#452) 5,245 6,486,349 M Alive [SoF] =>
2020-01-24 17:05 100 Camila Barbara Mateo (#68) 27,502 18,731,407 T Alive [SOL2020] => [SoF]
2020-01-24 16:25 7 Suicidal (#42) 39,227 56,744,994 I Alive [SOL2020] => [SoF]
2020-01-24 16:05 80 Scorched Santa (#262) 47,875 23,063,135 T Alive [SOL2020] => [SoF]
2019-12-29 01:15 454 Your Moms a Ho Ho Ho (#456) 120 5,617 M P Alive [SoF] =>

I'm just making tfm's point for him. Lol

As much as i like trolling tho, that's exactly what I'm doing here and I probably should stop because it's hard to ignore how exactly spot on Xyle's point is.

The grabbing changes in combination with 0 turn restarts and no restart bonus has actually done more for making war endless than prior. I think this level of dominance is probably as good as it gets now and tag kills are a thing of the past in an evenish war. Frankly, if this war was not sof dominated, it would have likely been a stalemate with the very largest finding themselves near untouchable by the rest.

I think, if it were a dead heat on builds and walls, you won't see nw flip like in the past, and certainly walling comebacks become a near impossibility. But i don't see one side breaking ahead after a few days like in past. It's either dominance or more and more a struggle each day for both sides until kills are basically a wash on tops because restarts need several million nw to hit and get 20 acre gains from bots.

Decent wars with these rules is likely either dominated by one side who kills half of the other side but has bigger tops, or a virtual stalemate. It's kind of a bummer.

452 and 456 are SoF, they have combined 6m networth and have been inactive all set.

Our war was won because we had 3 SOL come over? It is a shaky case at best. Our current top 8 countries are all SoF. Sui and Scourge are 9 & 10.

Weezy is almost a detriment based on his level of complaining (love you Weez).

I do respect your elite troll level however.

Yeah. I was just trolling. But xyle made an actual really good point so now I'm trying to claw my way out. You guys won by a lot. Don't let me fool you lol.

It seems a war with these rules can only be dominated this much, which is to say, not even enough to kill everyone.

I never was a fan of restart bonus, but combining getting rid of if with making it impossible to grow at all late, and a 0 turn restart, and the recipe is all decent wars end in stalemate with half of the tag inactive.

It's not any one part, but a combination of all three that really cause this. Old hundred million dollar techer bot grabs became 20a $6m grabs for 5m jets ps after you wait 5 days to come oop. It ruins any chance of a conclusive war end as both sides just dwindle in numbers as the set goes on. I doubt you'll see a war dominated more than this with these rules, and i doubt you'll see a restart rate this high now that we all know that, and that to me is a huge disappointment.

I don't have any stake in the rest of what is being said in this thread but this I totally disagee with.

While I have warred all the warring alliances and I would never say any of them generally focus on "building wallers" but I have totally seen individuals do what I would classify as "building wallers", for better or for worse. Its efficacy is hard to speculate on without knowing motives behind it, but I can say as much as I don't particularily agree with neither the concept of people playing that way nor what it usually results in. But I certainly see it.

One thing worth noting about the grabbing changes as they stand.

We've made it EXTREMELY hard for someone to join this game half way thru a set and get enough power to make meaningful bot hits. Especially if they start on 0 turns (i dont know if late starts do tho).

If you aren't here at the beginning, the playability of the server drops dramatically which basically gives new players a week or so every 2 months to join our game and have similar playability.

Perhaps there's value in having some bots stop running turns and remain very low for fresh players to claw up facing the same types of bots as players who start day one? It doesnt seem like it should be harder for late starts or restarts. Thats just bad for player retention especially of newbs who come late. Like welcome to the server, hopefully youll be able to make a meaningful hit this month. If not, sorry, don't be late mfer.

It's definitely awkward for wardogs to take the ability to restart away at the same time you take the restart bonus away. But the changes overall make late starts virtually unplayable.

It's odd because i actually like the high breaks on bots balancing the milit market, and I like the grabbing changes and i disliked the restart bonus as it stood. But the combination of all three at once made war kinda crappy and late starting impossible.

Derrick should apply to be Trump's press secretary.

Trump derangement syndrome is alive in 2020 :-)

Interesting reply. Care to take a guess at who I'm voting for in 2020?

I don't care how ardent one supports Trump, but it is dishonest to argue the man lacks the discipline to deliver a consistent message or dare I say a politically correct one (which I was told makes his followers proud). His press secretary has a heck of a job cleaning up the mess.

Maybe we are tired of the Clinton's and Bush's of the world and want something more...real and less scripted, you really cannot bullfluff bullfluffters.

Yes you can.

It's actually currently happening in this thread.

Drain the swamp; I dropped my keys.

Don't bend over!

not a very relevant answer.

*shrug*

good talk

I want the restart bonus back or some form of it. If we had clans with 100 members in it i would be ok with no bonus but when clans are small it makes it hard to come back and hit with short wars

Damn, Fordy, I was wondering where you were. How's thngs? You OK?

I'm good. Just really busy with the family and work.

Trying to get back into the game every month or so but just keep going inactive again lol.

That' OK, family comes first always.

I have two nieces who dominate my weekends. I can't imagine actual children. I at least get a decent return for my disney+.

When I died I couldn’t motivate myself to play turns either