I think its sad that more alliances hasnt brought this up for discussion in their leadership and made proclamations just like this
but then, both NA and Collab has known cheaters among their ranks so perhaps they dont take this as seriously as we do
fluff!
Originally posted by Detoxxx:
so does sol, sof and pdm for that matter ;)
want me to point some Ivan? :D
RANKS! You mean you don't have in your midst players accused of cheating, or proven cheaters? Don't be a dolt by insulting your own intelligence.
2. Breaking pacts.
Want me to give you...what? Screen shots? I remember at least three times SOL and/or SoF breaking pacts with NA and/or any other clans. Is it or isn't that the truth?
NA won't ever be considered "clean" as long as it has good players. Maybe we should build mediocre countries so the "clean" people can take the ranks that NA is occupying at this moment. The solution is not kick players, the solution is to build crap countries as some of the vets in other clans do. :D It's astonishing for me how long some ppl played this game and how "much" they've learned :P
it doesn't matter to them as long as they are singing to themselves what it suits them. "fluff up, fluff down, everyone is fluff, only we are whiter than Snow White."
SoF and SOL have a history of breaking pacts. why not this time too? they have proof (not necessarily good proof, but still).
you'd say their MO taught them something:
1. Closing pact for fear of an FS
2. Finding a reason (doesn't even have to be a good one either, just some reason)
3. FSing someone
4. Getting beat down sets in a row and losing half their membership along one set.
5. Retaking point 1 thinking they are good war clans.
"I'm patient with stupidity, but not with those who are proud of it."
Edith Sitwell
I'm SENATE and IA in NA since 2006. I guess I must expecting a big conspiracy llaar did around the Senate on his own for 4 years. If i believed that, then I believe the bank, UFO and the oil conspiracies people with too much time on their hands believe in. :|
know what? since this outbreak i've been approached by several leaders and members of other clans to leave NA and come there. May I remind you that I am NA Senate and if NA was cheating, I would "condone" (this word already makes me sick to my stomach) cheating the least, if I wasn't cheating myself.
These being said, I see THE SAME of people labeling NA as cheaters, but I don't see them having ANY problems in approaching NAers to recruit them - members or leaders (interclan recruiting was, in my view, the worst thing after cheating).
So, let's review AGAIN: without ANY tangible proof you guys trash NAs name on AT and AT THE SAME TIME you recruit "cheaters".
Its, in my opinion (again: MINE), a proof of:
1. STUPIDITY
2. IMMORALITY
3. HYPOCRISY
4. WEAKNESS
5. IDIOCY
If some of you need me to back my words up, give you definitions and establish maybe a ranking in quotes after the logs I have (i don't speak much usually and many of you can count how many stupid things on irc they said), please contact me. My contacts are not secret and you can start by approaching me on irc.
NA will stay, will fight and will defend it's rights to be here as any other clan be it if you doorknobs trash its name or accuse without backing up your sayings.
