Hey everyone! Just got back into Earth Empires (:
Was wondering if anyone could tell me how much force you need to send relative to defender to achieve a successful land grab?

your forces + possible govt bonus (dict +25%, rep -10%) + weap tech + ps + off allies forces (max 25% of their available forces and can't more than double your forces) and defending is same except no ps and off allies are def allies.

thanks!

What's the recommended modified offense to send to break forces? 10% more?

something like that.

Curious though I tend to use 11.11111111111111%, should I use 10% instead? How low can I go before I start playing with bounces?

if you send exact break (few units oversend) then risk that you bounce is high and risk that you bounce even if you send 10% extra exists.

Wtf, send 10% & it may still bounce... that sucks big time :'(

its another random factor.

whats the rough percentage of success for an attack if you send say 2.5%, 5%, 7.5% and 10% extra in attack power?

I usually send 10% extra and so far 100% success

Firstly - Marshal loves to answer questions. Take anything he says with a pinch of salt.

Secondly, the game now has a random factor built in. Add ten per cent to your break and you will take out the random factor rather more than nine hundred and ninety nine times out of a thousand.

So first spy (which means paying attention to spies from about turn eighty or ninety onwards) and then calculate. Convert tanks and turrets to troops, add ten percent for everyone except Republics (to take out the random factor), multiply by Weapons tech and gov.t bonus if target is a Dictator, add defence bonus if target has used bonus points to gain that advantage (be careful with your spy report, the defence bonus shows up at first but not after you have closed the report down), spy to establish what defence allies add (they send 25% of turrets, troops and tanks but w/o any bonuses), look at your offence alles (also 25% w/o bonuses), allow for your own Weapons tech, and if you are using PS divide by 3 (SS divide by 2). And now you have the break. :)

There are lots of good spreadsheets but I like to use a calculator.

Good luck.

I use ghq, it tells what to send :p

so does boxcar but bc's assumption is "bit" off.

ghq on the other hand will tell you exactly what you need

What are ghq and boxcar?

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3 to 1 minimum 6 to 1 better as much as you can best!

i just send the whole army and the kitchen sink at them.

I bet you also spend alot of money on troops from losing 30k of each from every attack... And waste lots of oil as well... MILEHIGH88

that's why we use jets.

just send max

When grabbing does a tank equal a troop equals a jet?

So if i sent 110 troops 110 jets and 110 tanks will it break 300 turrets?

2 troops = 1 turret (well with pangqz factor its more like 2.2 troops)
1 jet = 1 turret (same as bove)
1 tank = 4 turrets (same as above)

so yes it'll break by a quite a big margin.

Thanks, that's super helpful

if you'd do ps then you'd nearly dbl oversend.

right, i get the 50% thing i was mostly wondering about this

2 troops = 1 turret (well with pangqz factor its more like 2.2 troops)
1 jet = 1 turret (same as bove)
1 tank = 4 turrets (same as above)

I can do the math from there. I didn't actually find a country with only 300 turrets XD

It seems that the Marshalbot is broken. One tank = two turrets = four troops in defensive strength.
http://wiki.earthempires.com/index.php/Military_Units

You also need to take in to account allies which can double a defender's strength.

Generally I assume that the defender strength is doubled.

Jets = (2 x troops + turrets + tanks÷2) x 2 x weapons tech x gov bonus x 1.1

For a PS divide that number by 1.5

wrong. i have spoken.

noway you could ever do that

on that you are correct.

thanks

not that it was compliment.

sounds like it

yea it does but it isn't

neat