Suiciders primarily hit at the end of the reset, right? Stop selling of debt a few days before end of reset, and there'll be no last-minute hits. Also, sellers of debt could be limited to only SS/PS until debt is repaid, stopping them from suiciding w/ CM/NM/AB/etc.
Only landgrabs would be allowed while debt was outstanding. Maybe the admins could also implement a strict no-topfeeding rule for debtors, like the gdi 2x networth rule.

ttt

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And why wouldn't every demo in the game have standing orders for oil that low?
And even if there weren't enough large orders routinely on the market to absorb a large volume of underpriced oil, any hint of tension between alliances would spur a dramatic increase.

lol.
seriously, though, the game would confiscate money to pay back debt. obviously...

cheap oil/tech would be available for purchase by everyone, including the alliance's enemies.

You would probably have to reduce market commissions on t-bills, or the implied interest rates would be absurd(but a higher rate would make sense for commies!).

Numbers at Express server scale.
Add a new good to the public market, labeled "T-bills", each one obligating the (anonymous)seller to pay 500k dollars to the (anonymous)buyer starting 24 hours after purchase.

Seller gets purchase price; game engine sends 500k per bill from seller's cash balance at 24 mark, or as much is there, and confiscates proceeds of all sales(public or private) and all net tax revenues until bills are paid.

Randomized market times, standing orders should make it hard to send aid to individual countries. Smaller per-bill amounts and "smearing" of marketing times could add more cheat resistance; by smearing I mean you could break up large orders into smaller ones that go on at different times.

A country whose debtors died would receive a message stating how many bills had been defaulted on, but no more payment.

I was thinking that this would make Express more interesting, because Express prices would vary depending on the stage of the game in alliance/primary, varying which strats were more successful in X: wars in alliance would drive up oil prices in X, giving oilers a good chance at a high finish, while tech and bushel sell-offs in end-reset pri/ally servers would cause unusually low prices of said items in X for an entire five-day reset.

Introducing interesting variations in each Express reset, while stabilizing markets in other servers.

Differences in turn times wouldn't matter much actually. And lag in arb sales would compensate somewhat for the differences in market times.

I didn't hit you or anyone else until 2/3 my countries were dead and I saw a thread detailing an idiotic action.

I still think Basement Monkey was an excellent name for a landfarm...

They seem to have stopped hitting... i'm just gonna delete and come back next reset

that's gay

Your cruise missile attack on Gomorrah (#887) was successful!
You destroyed:
3 Military Units

followed by a "your troops refuse to attack when they'll just be killed" message when I tried a 5k jet LG. wtf?

go ahead and kill anything that moves...

I had a 43k acre country at one point

You have 6 (alive) countries on this server out of a maximum of 16.
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Players in Green are under protection or on vacation.
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M=Monarchy D=Democracy R=Republic H=Theocracy C=Communism I=Dictatorship T=Tyranny F=Fascism
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Country Last turn Rank Land Networth Special Clan 24 hr att 24 hr def
Violent Multi (#1856) 25.3 hrs 76 27051 $6391025 H Reborn 0 285
Hurd of Violent Multis (#1857) 1.3 hrs 613 19918 $2846525 I Reborn 35 256
Hird of Violent Multis (#1858) 25.3 hrs 225 21851 $4373007 I Reborn 0 266
Multiple Country Disorder (#1859) 25.3 hrs 229 20936 $4354241 I Reborn 0 303

Randomly Violent Psychotic (#1860) 22.6 hrs 378 12292 $3577144 I Reborn 0 244
Anonymous Gangmember (#1861) 25.3 hrs 281 12136 $4046943 I Reborn 0 297
Violent Gangmember (#1862) 0.6 hrs 826 703 $2348448 I Reborn 30 308
Psychotic Gangmember (#1863) 25.3 hrs 633 10587 $2802130 I Reborn 0 172

Future Missiledump (#1864) 22.6 hrs 673 8731 $2706571 I Reborn 0 167
Habitual Rapist (#1865) 0.3 hrs 1441 5099 $1397528 I Reborn 2 10
Habitual Suicider (#1866) 0.3 hrs 1252 365 $1643747 R Reborn 2 335
Dumb nOOb (#1867) 0.3 hrs 1319 5182 $1547857 I Reborn 0 16

Violent Rapist (#1868) 0.3 hrs 1651 3953 $899045 I Reborn 3 10
Convicted Rapist (#1869) 0.3 hrs 1650 5276 $899929 T Reborn 6 10
Garage Dweller (#1870) 0.3 hrs 1491 4084 $1311434 T Reborn 50 15
Basement Monkey (#1871) 0.3 hrs 1659 4286 $873328 R Reborn 48 15

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Habitual Rapist (#1865) 0.3 hrs 1443 5099 $1397528 I Reborn 2 10
Dumb nOOb (#1867) 0.3 hrs 1319 5182 $1547857 I Reborn 0 16
Violent Rapist (#1868) 0.3 hrs 1652 3953 $899045 I Reborn 3 10
Convicted Rapist (#1869) 0.3 hrs 1651 5276 $899929 T Reborn 6 10

Garage Dweller (#1870) 0.3 hrs 1429 5338 $1424104 T Reborn 50 11
Basement Monkey (#1871) 0.3 hrs 1660 4286 $873328 R Reborn 48 15

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I'm bored and I saw this thread, so I sent a PS at him.
I'm basically sitting here waiting for ares/etc to kill my remaining countries, so I'm not worried about retals...

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How about a building speed bonus, at the magnitude as the building cost bonus?
We've got a defense bonus, even thought people can just buy more def; why not a way to increase building speed without increasing CS losses when attacked?

arbs could space their sales across time to make it more difficult, and they'd be selling at the highest price they could get so a buyout would rarely be profitable anyway

TTT

Seriously, at least link express to alliance so there'll be some variety from set to set...

Why can't anyone on this thread do math?

16*2 = 32
16*3 = 48
16*4 = 64
16*5 = 80

min 50 countries would require 3.125 players at max countries. 4 players would exceed the limit at 12-13 countries each.

If game reset times were staggered correctly, there would never be a time when the public market on any server was empty, barring temporary good-and-server-specific buyouts.

Likewise, express countries could react more quickly to changes in alliance/FFA server prices, stabilizing their markets.

Also, during the course of a month-long+ reset, prices change due to tech accumulation, stocking/destocking, etc. If those markets were connected to X by arbitrage, it would add variety to the week-long express resets, with farmers/oilers/techers doing better/worse in x resets corresponding to different parts of the longer resets.

When an express reset starts, there is nothing on the public market to buy because no one can sell in protection. If an "arbitrage" system were established, express players could immediately buy imported tech/food/oil from alliance, primary, or FFA at realistic prices that changed whenever game mechanics in those servers changed.

I think there are two separate tourney markets.

It might also make oilers viable in X server while wars are occurring in alliance or FFA

I keep hearing how this or that good or tech has been undersupplied or oversupplied in Express, such that this/that strat does horribly. I thought "why not merge the public markets of several servers so as to allow sales between servers".

Then I realized that would allow alliances on alli server to send aid to express countries, and similar forms of cheating, and dropped it.

But what if instead you set up a bot to buy and sell goods on the different public markets at market-clearing prices where a surplus/shortage existed, like a real-life arbitrageur?

This would remove some of the market-scale problems in express and tourney without allowing people to send "aid packages" across servers.

I run 1 theo farmer, 8 dict farmers, and 7 republic-farmers.
No demos, they don't have an explore bonus and don't get extra ghost acres in every attack.

I'm a self-farming farmer...

39 dollars was an typo. My other 15 farmers all sold their bushels for 38,

I assume the lag time between selling and getting to market is supposed to represent transport time, but if our post-apocalyptic nations have have telephone/telegraph connections with each other, changing prices charged is a matter of a brief message, not long-distance freight.

I played my turns on FFA, got down to 1 turn on one of my countries, and sold bushels.
Unfortunately, I sold them for 39 dollars, meaning it's a coin flip whether they'll sell or wait 48 hours and come back.

I can't recall from the market for 1 hour 20 minutes, when I'll have enough turns to do so.

How about a button to reprice an existing sell order to currant lowest price minus one?
then I wouldn't have to come back in an hour just to play 4 turns.

I've done this two days in a row with this country, and its tech levels are starting to really suck...

BTW, 'free demolition' means the 15% during switch, not free demo the rest of the time, though that would be a nice bonus if it had it...

I was really doing pretty good as a C/I this reset, till I impulsively tried to switch to CMBR.
I thought the increased sale size and tech effectiveness would make it competitive, but I switched without waiting to get military tech first, accidentally rebuilt 1000 indys, and mispriced most of my sales, totally screwing myself. After selling all my military on the PM and switching to theo, I built farms, switched to fascism for free demolition and the food bonus, and completed my transformation into a F-Farmer selling on the PM with the benefit of miltech I should have gotten for the CMBR.

It looks like the reset won't be a complete disaster though:
40 Diminishing Returns (#28) 12,102 $6,152,161 FG

Still 5 hours left.

Rank Country Land Networth Special
1 Blessed Are The Sick (#93) 2426 $392,794 C
2 The Dragon Reborn (#63) 2318 $346,843 C
3 Witnesses Involved (#94) 2784 $321,660 C
4 Lakenheath (#17) 2674 $312,526 R
5 dalek empire (#55) 2255 $279,251 FG
6 Diminishing Returns (#28) 1442 $259,224 C
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7 kill it with fire (#84) 1980 $255,912 C
8 heh (#98) 1931 $243,973 H
9 ScarFace (#61) 1746 $225,732 I
10 65 65 65 65 (#65) 1659 $225,462 C

Not for long, obviously...


P.S. my end rank last reset was 29
One Big Turret (#41) 13583 $9207375 C
first whole express set

I played Earth 2025 in 2001 and on/off from 2005-2008(never finished a set during this time) and found EE a week or so ago. I wanted to run a all-x country for my first full set in express and figured i'd go all jets with a few tanks/troops to make random special attacks harder. later, after getting LG'd 5 times by someone, I figured i would AB them a few times and send them a warning message(since tanks have def value and jets don't), but it said something or other(I think it might have been GDI-related) and wouldn't let me hit 'em. same thing with a chem missile. wtf?

P.S. i didn't stay all-x due the presence of a 9ka country with 0 everything which I couldn't resist, but returned to only exploring afterward.