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Jan 13th 2015, 2:15:43

how sure are you about 32 and 56? that's based on my experience... no definite... the formula may differs

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Jan 12th 2015, 5:17:36

Originally posted by Celphi:
ALSO-

Whats the LEAST amount of land you can EXPLORE if it says 'For each turn spent, you can claim about 45 acres of land.'


i've asked before, but nobody gave me an answer.. however lowest I got from a Non-Rep was 32 and highest 56.

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Jan 12th 2015, 5:16:02

Celphi, you gotta stop creating so many threads. Please keep all the formula questions in 1 thread.

Troops * 0.5
Jets * 0.6
Turrets * 0.6
Tanks * 2
Spies * 1
Land * 45
Buildings * 35 (Yes this implies a built acre is 80 NW)
TotalTechPoints * 2
Money / 20000
Food / 1000 (Rounded Off)
Missiles * 2500
Population / 6
Oil / 100

the reason why the networth doesnt tally because he has alot of military on the market.

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Jan 12th 2015, 3:11:15

so many mistakes this set.. definately not enough booze.. actually I didnt have any this weekend.

Next weekend is a different story. :P

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Jan 12th 2015, 1:51:46

I actually forget to removed my standing order for bushels too and bought back 40m food at 34/35 but had to sell it at 25 on private..

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Jan 11th 2015, 23:36:01

You purchased 3831600 Troops and 1631433 Oil barrels for $887,422,335.


bahahaha

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Jan 11th 2015, 10:17:15

how many turrets were you running netsquaah at 27m acres for someone to double tapped you.

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Jan 10th 2015, 15:44:42

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Jan 10th 2015, 15:29:49

sorry, the forums couldnt read the small font for to the power of -1 and -2

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Jan 10th 2015, 11:49:07

government is a factor when calculating ur optimum bpt

you do not want to build 320 CS as a dict to build 15k acres..

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Jan 10th 2015, 7:08:21

no our formula differs. I'll post more when I go home tonight

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Jan 10th 2015, 6:39:20

you can't, maybe vic over sent by 10 times

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Jan 10th 2015, 4:52:25

That's wrong..


The following exact formulas is used to determine BPT. Current Dictatorship has a bonus factor of 0.7 and Theocracy 1.4.
BPT = RoundOff( RoundDown(CS/4 + 5) * GvtConstrBonus )
This might look like a mess to you with rounding off and down, so the following quick formula is provided to give a close estimate.
BPT = (CS/4 + 5) * GvtContrBonus
During the course of your Earth career, you will almost invariably wonder what is the Ideal BPT to build supposing you wish to build a certain amount of acres. The Ideal BPT formula is obtained after differentiating the following simplified formula, and then equating the result to 0 to find the minimum point.
Turns to build = CS + AcresToBuild/BPT
Turns to build = (BPT/GvtConstrBonus - 5)*4 + AcresToBuild/BPT
Turns to build = 4/GvtConstrBonus*BPT - 20 + AcresToBuild*(BPT)-1
d(turns)/d(BPT) = 4/GvtConstrBonus - AcresToBuild*(BPT)-2
Equating this to 0:
0 = 4/GvtConstrBonus - AcresToBuild*(BPT)-2
AcresToBuild*(BPT)-2 = 4/GvtConstrBonus
AcresToBuild*GvtConstrBonus/4 = (BPT)2
BPT = Sqr(AcresToBuild*GvtConstrBonus/4)
Ideal BPT = SquareRoot( AcresToBuild * GvtConstrBonus / 4 )

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Jan 10th 2015, 3:03:12

since techers not gonna win this set, lets topfeed netsquash.

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Jan 10th 2015, 3:02:35

of course, you need to have some farms or indies at the start like 300-400 to fund for your buildings at 2k land.

I didnt know of a CS formula.

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Jan 10th 2015, 2:35:27

I doubt there'll will be an earthquake destroying only 25 buildings at turn 1,000 unless you stay as a 2k land country.

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Jan 10th 2015, 2:31:37

Celphi, I believe all techers get to their optimum bpt before anything else in all servers except primary due to the fact if you concentrated too much on bpt at the start you might fall behind and never climb up again due to the low turn count.

the actual formula for bpt is Sqr(AcresToBuild*GvtConstrBonus/4) , so if you're a theo wanting to build 15k acres, thats sqrt(15k*1.4/4) = 72 and for a 15k dict, thats sqrt(15k*0.7/4) = 51.

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Jan 10th 2015, 2:26:25

Optimum bpt is based on the formula, sqrt(land to be built/4)
As a techer , you would like to get your bpt up before you do any grabbing. So for example you are at 1k acres, your land goal is 15k, and you might have around 1k indies for spies, in total you will have to build 14k + conver 1k indies = 15k acres, so your optimum bpt is about 61. Go higher if you think you might get hit or get retalled.

Generally as a techer in express, you would want to start stocking for half of the set, turn 950-1000 onwards.

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Jan 10th 2015, 2:20:37

Originally posted by BUTTMAN:
Compared to alot of techers each week, i attack very little, taking big grabs and having high bpt.. Goal is 15k acres by about turn 1050.. (Only successful once ).. How high a bpt is too high for 15k acres? Also, once retals come into play, at what turn count (if any) is it worth abandoning land goal and start stocking? Probly depends on market, but thats what i experiment with week to week with limited success.


I got to 17k acres by turn 930 with couple of retals/hits at the start. Better for you to bottomfeed than mid feed. Mid feeding might risk in retals. and when you get retaled as a techer, it really hurts more than other strat.

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Jan 10th 2015, 2:02:13

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
One to calculate the market LOL, I chose bad set to tech on tsk tsk 😭


Definately a bad tech set. massive amt of tech stucked.

45,000 Residential on sale for $x each
45,000 Business on sale for $x each
47,070 Military on sale for $x each
90,000 Military on sale for $x each
92,831 Agricultural on sale for $x each
48,946 Industrial on sale for $x each
116,555 Business on sale for $x each
110,898 Residential on sale for $x each
42,428 Weapons on sale for $x each

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Jan 9th 2015, 19:27:46

sorry I meant country D is non gdi

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Jan 9th 2015, 17:01:15

how does it hurt more Marshal?

25 buildings for example CI, produces 64 turrets in 1 turn * 3000 turns in a set = 192,000 turrets = 115k nw

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Jan 9th 2015, 6:45:13

better now then later.

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Jan 9th 2015, 3:41:52

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Jan 9th 2015, 3:19:18

Tested.

All countries are 10k acres, 1.15m nw
Country A GDI
Country B NON GDI
Country C GDI

Country A hits Country B : 864 acres
Country A hits Country C : 864 acres


All countries are 10k acres, 1.15m nw
Country D NON GDI
Country E NON GDI
Country F GDI

Country D hits Country E : 958 acres
Country D hits Country F : 958 acres


Conclusion: Countries in GDI countries have a -10% gains when attacking someone(be it GDI or non-GDI).

Wow , I didnt know that. lol
Even if you knew this, are you not going to join GDI?

Edited By: h2orich on Jan 9th 2015, 19:28:27
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Jan 5th 2015, 2:03:15

the set i took a break from had such nice tech prices?! tech gonna be $1500 next set :)

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Jan 4th 2015, 14:56:51

Originally posted by Xinhuan:
After taking a 1 reset break, and popping in once in a while, I don't know if I want to extend my break, lol...


you need to name your country "Better than LATC"

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Dec 31st 2014, 12:21:21

winner 114m, 10th place 84m

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Dec 29th 2014, 8:14:52

How many missiles are you allowed to hold?

isnt it 1 missile per 250 acres?

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Dec 29th 2014, 5:03:53

the graphs do not reflect 5 minute updates, as it says clearly, average price above the graph. thats why the only way to verify what KOH said was true is to watch the 6/12/24/72 hour updates next set if he happens to be able to sell $50-$100 food.

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Dec 29th 2014, 5:02:03

I havent read the code from qzjul bots, or rather I dont know how to read them. But from my point of view, the bots login to often and they are 'taught' to place prices between a certain percentage, so for example food on the market right now is $36 and their range to place is say +10/-10% , they will place all their food at $32-$39, and the cycle repeats every hour or so.



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Dec 29th 2014, 4:56:34

Originally posted by Celphi:
to further prove my point- look @ the medical tech from last reset. it begins exactly on day 2.


it just means it started selling from day 2.

Well, we'll just have a look from in-game market news next set.

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Dec 29th 2014, 4:53:17

http://www.eestats.com/primary/market
click on 6/12/24/72 hours. What about this? Im sure this updates every 5 mins
too bad its not shown for previous sets

yea you're right, its drawn to each day's average, the average seen on the graph is already clear enough. if you take a look at the sets before bots were introduced, there were peaks for bushel prices(when techers are stocking). now its just a flat $33-$40 line.

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Dec 29th 2014, 4:45:42

I dont think the bots care if they get suicided on.
And if the bots are in GDI and they get multi tapped, they wont have the tanks to AB you back.

I think bots should not never be in GDI, this gives them an all round defence and one day when they are able to fight back, people will be afraid to multitap if they have troops and tanks.

By running just pure jets/turrets, people will just farm them.

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Dec 29th 2014, 4:42:45

Same goes for bombing airbases. Im not exactly sure of the #s but its something like either maximum of 3% of enemy jets or maximum of 4% of your own jets, whichever is lower.

So for example, if you have 1m jets and and opponent has 10m jets, your results from bombing airbases will be limited to 40,000 per op.

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Dec 29th 2014, 4:38:14

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:

Not true, you just was unlucky to always login to bad prices, set before this past one I sold out $50 to $100 food most of the set, bought military under $120, just bad timing for you, bud.


How long did you play the entire set? 3 mins? Im sure eestats didnt capture most of the set you were playing.
Eestats updates every 5 mins. Unless your ALL your food was sold in that 5 min time frame then yes eestats might not have captured it.

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Dec 29th 2014, 4:36:02

lol bot killers? how many bot killers are there? how many bots can you kill in 1 set. I think that's the least concern

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Dec 29th 2014, 4:10:34

whats the point of them joining GDI?

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Dec 29th 2014, 4:02:37

just saying that he could have done better and there's room for improvement.

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Dec 29th 2014, 3:21:16

http://www.eestats.com/express/oldmarket/758
click on bushels, highest point sold was about $41 almost at the last hour
click on jets, average was about $140
click on turrets, average was about $140, they were never below $130

what are you talking about?

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Dec 29th 2014, 3:12:18

why is this a bug?

Missiles returns are based on your own country too.

#28 had only 800+ acres when he did those missiles therefore his returns on his missiles attacks are also greatly reduced.

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Dec 29th 2014, 3:05:05

qzjul you have to do something about the bots. ever since bots were introduced, food has never been above $40, military prices were $150 and above. I've bought over 80m bushels last set between $30-$33.. Im sure a huge part of this food comes from the bots.

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Dec 29th 2014, 2:52:14

Such a crappy tech set. Tech was 2000 on 3rd day, 1400 4th day and 1000 on 5th day. Food didnt go above $40. I had 100m food stocked but none of them sold so I didnt finish up.

Expected a 43m-45m finish from Netsquash with perfect market conditions like this + you didnt get retalled. No idea what you did wrong but when I spied you at turn 1298, I knew you were nt gonna break 40m.

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Dec 28th 2014, 11:03:01

just wondering why did qzjul placed back the flat rate of 8 percent military losses. it's was fine before that.

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Dec 27th 2014, 9:40:59

20m food is nth.

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Dec 25th 2014, 9:56:47

at least you earned 40 cents from the rounding up

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Dec 25th 2014, 6:23:20

nooooo.. no more 100 jet PS

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Dec 23rd 2014, 2:51:41

Originally posted by qzjul:
No idea, but if there were a bug here I'm sure it would have been identified =/ you're sure you didn't get attacked ro spied or something?


im positive, you can check my country news.
http://www.earthempires.com/express/264/ranks/67/news