Originally
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Atryn:
Originally
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Scott:
Originally
posted by
Atryn:
Originally
posted by
Scott:
Originally
posted by
Atryn:
A concealed carry permit is only a short 5-hour training away.
Nice to see NC infringed gun owners rights so easily. They should also enact a mandatory 5 hour training on how to vote and see how well that goes over.
You clearly don't know your history very well. Read up on why we have that amendment and then come back.
I am aware of the history of the amendment. If you would actually learn the history you would understand the second amendment was so the government couldn't disarm the people (and take power).
Nice try with the holier than though bullfluff.
Incorrect. The constitution had granted to the Federal government the power to run the military. When the Bill of Rights was being debated, the issue was the STATES power against the federal government. Specifically, the State militias were dependent on the federal government for arms. The power that was granted in the 2nd amendment was to allow citizens to own/retain firearms so that when serving in the militia they could come armed without relying on the federal government to supply the arms.
The 2nd amendment was never about crime prevention or self defense in the sense you hear it used today. That was the role of the police (local/state, not federal).
In reality, the people never maintained enough arms to supply the state militias when called and thus they were still dependent on the federal government. The state militias as they were known at that time have long since gone away. The closest thing to that today is the National Guard, which is, in effect, a captive force of the federal government. Have you ever known someone to join the Guard and be told "show up with your gun ready"? No. That entire concept, on which the 2nd amendment was based, is now defunct.
Are you retarded? Where did I say anything about self defense? The British baned the ownership of firearms and it was viewed as an act of tyranny. The drafters of the declaration of independence wanted to make sure the government was prohibited from doing the same.
Let's break this down barney style for the legally retarded.
What the 2nd amendment actually says:
"
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
The statement above, talks about a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state. No where does it say anything about being reliant on the federal government or granting the power of forming militias to the federal government. The second independent statement says "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". No where does it say if the government allows you, you can be armed. No where does it say where you can keep and bear arms.
The colonial people viewed the right to arming themselves and bear arms as part of a "state militia" as important because:
1. Enabling the people to organize a militia system.
2. Participating in law enforcement;
3. Deterring tyrannical government
4. Repelling invasion;
5. Suppressing insurrection
6. Facilitating a natural right of self-defense.(this even links back to English common law)
You are clearly wrong. You and Trife can get back to smelling each others farts and masterbating to your Barrack Hussein Obama porn.
