Everyone is SO outraged, yet MD is the only one to step up and show it.

Yes, we're certainly the ones taking advantage of a situation by posting politics all over the AT.


haha

ALL OF THE ADMINS SUPPORT CHEATING ALLIANCES! KILL MARTIAN!

Who currently in Laf has/is cheating Detmer?

I'm so sorry that you're so stupid and misinformed.

I agree with this.

yep

Dagga is back to lying. Whew. I'm glad the universe has righted itself. I was really concerned.

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Great story.

Alternative version: This is 80% politics. Nobody is even attacking Laf, which would have been my first order of business if I was them.

How exactly are we defending cheaters? Please be specific or I'm going to call you lots of names. :)

I do understand. The only thing I'm confused about is why you're suddenly not being a fluff.

Also, where were all of you crusaders back in 2003 when I tried to unite the server and have everyone attack the bots for one round in an attempt at nullifying their efforts?

Half of the game was getting hit by bots and those that were around then were too big of pussies to even let their differences go and try to take the game back.

Now it's 4 alliances against one and suddenly everyone is showing their big balls.

I haven't said a single thing on this forum to justify cheating. I'm 100% against it and always have been.

In some ways I wouldn't even had been as nice as the admins were. I would have deleted their entire history in the game as if they never existed.

Dr. Professor Alin,

Do you know what's even worse than being a moron? Being too stupid to even realize you're ignorant.


1) Please explain to me when Sof had a cheating issue and "burned". There wasn't one on my watch and I've never been deleted so no idea what you're talking about.

2) Those "cheaters" you're referring to have been banned. They are not in Laf, so please explain how you have a valid point saying the Laf you're picking on right now had "GOD" mode. I don't know if you noticed captain dipfluff, but only TC manipulated the game. TC is not in Laf and neither is hanlong. Can't believe how fluffing dumb some of you people are. The information is right here on the boards.

3) Of course the community doesn't support cheating. Thank you Captain Obvious! The cheaters were banned and rightly so. We all applauded the actions of the admins.

I never said Laf didn't have an ass whooping coming. But you're treating them all like criminals and there isn't proof that a single person currently in Laf cheated. I look forward to your ignorant response. :)

I think we need more people to pick on Laf so they get a clue. They don't seem to understand people are mad at them with these vague posts and passive aggressive comments. I wouldn't stop at pact breaking. I think we should start spitting on them and calling them baby killers.

Just an idea.

kangaruu: Don't be be discouraged by the assholes that troll this forum. They don't represent the majority here. This forum is just monopolized by a handful of bigmouths with no character, too much time on their hands and infant sized penises.

*ViLSE spontaneously combusts*

!!!!

I don't buy that. It's just pure conjecture. The membership jump the last couple of sets was mostly Sov and him spending countless hours recruiting. It didn't have anything to do with information.

My response is we don't condone or support cheating in any way. I get that some people want revenge and they are entitled to it, but I don't think they need my help.

I'm not saying Laf isn't responsible, because they are. If we don't hold alliances accountable for their choice of leaders then we're lost. But I'm not going on a 6 month Laf hate rampage over (2) people that are gone. To each his own. Laf is going to be getting heat over this for a long time and I expect they'll learn and grow from it. Hopefully we'll never have this problem again.

You tell me what you think I should be declaring on the AT to a group of players that haven't been proven guilty?

Seriously? Is every alliance in this game supposed to make a statement? There are 49 threads about this already. My stance on cheating hasn't changed a single time in the last 14yrs.

Beware all of those who have pacted the sign of the devil tag (Laf) for you are going to hell now too and you will burn there for an eternity. You should have know what others only had a hunch about and for that reason you are evil and let it be mentioned again that you will burn in hell. You will burn there for an eternity due to your lack of knowing what noone else truly knew but some had a hunch about in an online text based game. You have also tasted the cookies that were offered by the devil tag. To enjoy the cookies that were baked by the son of the devil tag is forbidden as those cookies represent darkness.

I demand you all destroy your countries immediately. I also need to smell your breath for cookies.

No

4) Who has time for all of this fluff?

3) If it's about spying. THEY WERE SPYING ON US TOO!

Well, in that case I find it even more interesting..

1) Am I not correct that they were unable to check the logs beyond last round? That's the impression I'm under. So they don't know when all of this started.

2) Given item 1, how the fluff can you say that SoF got this tainted information when even the admins don't know if hanlong was getting it?

...

*sigh*

Yes, and that was awesome. :)

We found that hanlong had been in our site quite a few times between January and March 9th of this year. Sov was doing some SoF housecleaning on the 9th and deleted the account unknowingly. After this Laf stuff happened we found he had been using this access (approx 10 logins this year) and I have heard from others he was using information from our heads board to manipulate us and others. I also now believe he was an instigator in the first pmd/sof war.

Scorpion is on holiday I believe, but when he comes back we'll try to figure out how hanlong got the access in our site. I know who made the account and I trust that person 100% so it either had a crappy password or we have a security issue.

Being someone that gave up his alliance and quit the game cold turkey over cheating I can certainly understand how MD and Sol feel. What those two clowns did is disgusting.

It will be a cold day in hell when JJ plays in SoF.

It's worth it to play.

I found an auto dimming function on my receiver. Now the lights dim when I turn on my lights. That's good enough for me.

It has come to my attention that we have done a couple of ridiculous grabs in the last week. Several SoF players have grabbed alliances at war, put themselves in Dr, etc.

This is not behavior I will tolerate. It is not supported by leadership and if this happens from here on out I'd like to be involved in the FA discussions. We will make it right.

Best way to get a hold of me is the ee messaging system.

It may have been (2) wars, but we didn't choose the first one.

TheMatrix: I have said many times that both sides feel their view is correct. That's why it's not as simple of an issue as everyone says.

Oh, I haven't. :) I'm sure it'll get all of the crybabies screaming, but that's fine.

You can't hardly have an even war in this game since it's so small. You could try a planned war, but even then they're usually not really even and they're boring.

How about small or netgaining alliances just don't fluff with bigger ones and have a little common sense? I don't see anyone picking on Monsters and that's because they've always had intelligent leaders. The good of the alliance should come before the leader's pride.

If you're not supposed to attack someone that has wronged you, then why is there even attacking in this game? Just take special attacks out. It's just crazy to me how it's my responsibility not to attack someone if they're smaller, even though they're provoking me. I wouldn't look for a fight when I led before, but if someone came looking for one they'd get it whether they were bigger or smaller. It's not my responsibility to even the numbers in a war I didn't instigate.

Also, what is even fair? 60 vs 50? 60 vs 55? It's all subjective. We all know damn well it's never going to be 60 vs 60.

I haven't seen any just out of the blue attacks on an alliance that can only be attributed to vindictiveness. I would have a problem with that or trying to destroy an alliance. Those two things are clearly wrong. Like I said before just because the side being hit doesn't think it's fair, doesn't mean the other side doesn't feel justified in its actions.

I do think the pact breaking is a big issue and I don't intend to let SoF break any pacts under my watch. People need honor the agreements they make, no exceptions.

Maybe we need to declare next round mandatory netgaining for the whole server?

Lol

You're not going to bully me in to shutting up. fluff you!

I wasn't going to hook all three up. I was just going to hook up the car's dimmer (orange/white) to the radio's illumination (orange) and leave the illumination line from my vehicle unused.

Still the same answer?

MrFord: I used the preamp outputs to run to my bose system. It worked great. I heard that you need more than 2 volts per RCA to work well with the bose system, so the headunit I bought had 4v's.

Nice!

Nobody cares what you say dumbass. lol