LMFAO, last set you were attacked by multiple tags?

Last i remember it was just one country suiciding your ass for a couple of weeks? In the end i believe you needed help from another alliance to kill it...

Not that i know anything about it, other than it was very ammusing :P

lol, i'm just saying we could have hit you but we didn't...

You missed the point, Veng (the 4 tags) decided to war in team. We wanted a war, your LG's put the target on your head. We thought RD would mess with us ,because RD messes with everyone, but they didn't so we left them be.

To prove my point next set you hit RD like you Hit Veng. I bet they can tag kill you in half the time....

Morals of the story:
-dont grab people who are obviously war preping. 7 unprovoked hits in 3 days is overdoing it. It was at this stage that the decision was made to hit DBD.
-Dont share the same name as people who are attacking people who are war preping. DBD or DBD2, one is not the other? if we instead just hit DBD2 would it be better or worse? Would DBD not join DBD2? or watch DBD2 be tagkilled?

Ehh, really didn't feel like posting here but DBD is neglecting ALOT of attacks and that just didn't seem right :P

Tried to keep them in chronological order except i grouped obvious retals together.

Sep 19/10 7:45:47 PM PS Death By Dingbats (#111) (DBD2) JuMaT (#8) (venge) 628 A (+510 A)


Sep 20/10 3:01:07 AM PS Jack West Jrn (#9) (reVENGe) Death By Draconians (#50) (DBD) 1366 A (+1201 A)
Sep 20/10 6:47:49 AM PS Death By Draconians (#50) (DBD) Jack West Jrn (#9) (reVENGe) 1350 A (+637 A)


20/10 6:37:03 AM PS Death By Dacnomania (#31) (DBD2) Go fcuk your mother (#59) (Av3ngers) 2435 A (+1151 A)
Sep 22/10 10:22:38 AM PS Go fcuk your mother (#59) (Av3ngers) Death By Dacnomania (#31) (DBD2) 1776 A (+844 A)


Sep 20/10 9:16:39 AM PS Death By Dingbats (#111) (DBD2) Cauchy filtered net (#51) (AVENGERS) 601 A (+625 A)


Sep 21/10 10:16:21 PM PS Death By Das Schweinehund (#46) (DBD2) Solidarity (#10) (Av3ngers) 841 A (+964 A)
Sep 23/10 2:26:10 AM PS Solidarity (#10) (Av3ngers) Death By Das Schweinehund (#46) (DBD2) 1592 A (+847 A)


Sep 21/10 9:20:26 PM PS Death By Dingbats (#111) (DBD2) Broadside (#39) (reVENGe) 644 A (+700 A)


Sep 22/10 10:32:20 AM PS Death By Dacnomania (#31) (DBD2) Charles (#107) (reVENGe) 1187 A (+772 A) Sep


Sep 22/10 10:25:32 PM PS Death By Das Schweinehund (#46) (DBD2) Broadside (#39) (reVENGe) 691 A (+906 A)
Sep 23/10 1:16:07 AM PS Broadside (#39) (reVENGe) Death By Das Schweinehund (#46) (DBD2) Defence Held


Sep 22/10 10:49:20 PM PS kankle bandits annonymous (#69) (venge) Death By Dacnomania (#31) (DBD2) 1716 A (+763 A)
Sep 23/10 7:06:52 AM PS Death By Dacnomania (#31) (DBD2) kankle bandits annonymous (#69) (venge) 2361 A (+1179 A)


Sep 26/10 3:36:20 AM PS Go fcuk your mother (#59) (Av3ngers) Death by Determination (#95) (DBD) 1844 A (+879 A)


Now DBD was obviously preying on some of the weaker tags that share the name Veng so it was decided to stop them. Have a good war DBD!!!

Ely, join team server ;)

Heh, not going to bother...

Heh, Vic you miss the part where #19 quad tapped us first?

Dont make us out as the bad guys here...

ohh, i get it!!



nah, just screwing with you, i got no clue :P

heh, Vic Rattlehead would make a terrible leader.

You dont choose what your members do, otherwise you may aswell run their countries for them, you just got to let them know the consequences of their actions, for example i wont tell them not to hit RD, but i will let them know that if they do there is a good chance they'll log into a dead country...

ehh, it's been fixed :)

boxcar thing or ee, but the market bot isn't working? or was it removed?

yes marshal, 2 tags...

um, Veng/Sanct are one and the same :P

So i'm lost at what you're getting at :P

lol, thanks for the help :P

heh, seems like i'm not needed here :P

*leaves*

Ok SF sent you an ingame, name the time & place ;)

lol, RD is a novelty, it really isnt surprising that RD has alot of members, and it's not a bad place to play so all the power to them...

Really topfeeds wont become a problem until late set when land becomes spread out alot more (not that i'm going for alot of land). Now it's fairly well dispersed so i dont see issues arising anytime soon...

I do have reservations about killing him, he is obviously a new player and killing him will only drive him from the game. Let me try talk with him again...

heh, i see problems arising :/

Dose ZEN make sense or is it just stupid gibberish?

And those hits on FBI by Veng were a riminder that 100 troops isn't enough defense!

no we let people take our land?

That works well?

lol, fp likes playing with himself....

dude.

#49 hasn't got access to our boxcar site, and has been a member for a day, lol, i just wanted to have all the facts before attacks start being made. I figure that's the best way to go about things, that's why i asked for SF to contact me...

Well i pretty much described what we see as a Topfeed in my explanation of our policy:

"if we cannot get the acres lost in one grab (including ghost acres)"

But if this fairly lenient policy is going to be abused, we'll make sure we dont get the land back so we can take another grab.

As for #49 i'm not sure why he sent missiles your way, i'm assuming it was spy opps of some nature? if they were harmfull opps, we may just drop this issue? if that sounds good to you? or else i guess we consider them different issues and retal them accordingly? Anyways i guess i'll try find the facts of the issue at hand. Superfly contact me if you can :)

omg, i've been double tapped daily for days now, (serves me right for running a casher) but anyways, i'm not going to suicide them, it's the easy way out, if it becomes a serious issue, quad taps for several days i'll make sure his finish sucks, but never over 2 hits, and missile retals? that's weak, may aswell not retal him...

Most of the people that have been farming have hit multiple people, if you kill them it means that others dont get the chance to get their land back. That's unfair...

L:L dosn't include ghost acres, our policy dose. I dont think it's fair for a country to topfeed for more than can be retaled in one hit, which will already have a 150% modifier thanks to ghost acres.

Do others think this is unfair? or just ivan?

it's the fear that drives ANW down :P

lol, that i did :P

also spelt it wrong in the clan name :/

FAIL!!!

Things can only get better, right?

spellings for geeks!!!

lol, btw i can't even see any errors lol

After disbanding at the end of Earth 2025 we've decided to give Team Server a shot. We will not participate in Cross retaling (tags reVENGe & Sanct are ours) or try to enforce any unreasonable policies. Not sure if we accepting pacts yet but feel free to contact me. You're also welcome to contact me for any FA issues on or 352214615 (ICQ).

We'll be going with a standard escalating retal policy. If a member is topfed and we cannot get the acres lost in one grab (including ghost acres) another retal will be taken.

That is all,

Have a great set :)

heh, the more with less argument again ey?

You try jumping higher than me with less stock, it aint going to work :P

But seriously i do get where you're coming from. But land is the key to this game wether you like it or not. It do well, with any strat, more land = better.

There's many references like that throughout this thread made by various people.

Also no-one commented on the definition of a double tap in one of my previous posts?

lol, i hoped you'd understand the concept of how the community affects an individuals actions as this is presisely what you are doing. You are trying to change the way people play the game by threatening to maim anyone who double taps. Am i wrong?

but it's us (the community) that shapes how people should react to being hit. and if we are the only ones talking about it people will consider our opinions before they turn someone into a parking lot for 2 hits.

How do you define a double tap btw? Is it consecutive hits? or every 2 hours (the length of a PS), or more than one a day? or one every 3 days?

Imo it should no longer be a double hit after 15 hours (the equivelent period of time between hits equals the Alliance standard of 3 days, 75 turns issued).

no you're right, we should raise an army of suiciders!!!

Obviously i'm being sarcastic....

But seriously, i've been farmed before and yet i've never suicided. Why? because i find it boring. I'd profer to buy up a few mil jets and hit his arse right back!!! And then finish with Higher NW than him. Ultimate victory. Honestly there's no excuse to being farmed and then not being able to retaliate "in kind". We all have the same amount of turns & resources available to us. If you have been farmed it means you have VERY little defense compared to your land, morale of the story, you dont want to be hit get more defense so that they can only break you once with a PS...

^ Chill pill, i didn't double tap. I just made a single PS daily for 4-6 days in a row on 3-4 targets. I just hit the one with the worst land to defense ratio. That's all.

"40 players is all the more reason to not double tap. Who's to say each of the five best targets aren't also intent on keeping you from holding onto their land, even if they aren't good enough to get it back for themselves?

The way you're talking, you make it sound like you are entitled... "

So theres more reason to not double tap when there's less targets? How do you figure because the logic you gave is just crap. Take Alliance server now for example, most countries are often hit more than twice but that dosnt mean that their set should be ruined.

Entitled? Thats just stupid and denies the concept of the game. Also there's no way you can make my post make me seem entilted, so your just spinning crap...

As for Dragon's posts, what do you suggest?
We all run all-X countries? the server will die out.
We suicide because someone hits us twice? the server dies out twice as quick.

or, you could just retal them, 400 turns is a massive amount of income for any strat....

dude dragon you need to take a chill pill, suiciding with missiles over a double tap when there's 40 players?

More than likely only 5 of those are good targets, very lame imo!!!

LMAO, i plan on being hit early, my strats depend on it :P

I profer to loose say 400a after 7 hits, while i'm still getting 24ish acre/turn (sets you back 22ish turns including rebuilding), as apposed to getting hit for 500a when you're getting 14a a turn (alot more turns lost!!!).

Plainly i think starstalker4 should get over it, and retal the guy later. You'll get alot more land when it matters more...

lol, i saved one that said "charles sighs" :P

retal not retail...

There is also the difference that you were top feeding whilst SS wasn't. If you'd retaled you'd have gotten your land back plus some. Instead you hit All X's that were mostly fatter than yourself (thus land:land came in). Also ZIP just because you rund a no defense tyr with alot of mil strat dosnt make you a good grabber, and even though you keep pushing for 1:1 people can/will farm the crap outta you when you screw them over because you're such an easy break, and dont start about retal messages, you dont conduct yourself well in the first place...

bus/res is the same as last set, agri is higher. And it dosnt look like we'll see any significant drops in prices until All X Techers start teching in a 3-4 days...

This is a server wide issue and should be delt as such...

This is not a Collab vs EEvil issue, Axa was right in posting it here.

This is a blantant abuse of ghost acres as ghost acres were meant to encourage the grabbing of other alliances, not of your clan mates. Need i say more?

Also, props to collab for standing up against bad practices.

EEVIL, if you continue to do this you will find yourself with quite a number of unpacted alliances who will love to see all your fat low defense countries, who would be in no shape to take retals. Is it really worth it?



Lol at SoF who just plain and simply farm themselves :P


Btw, i represent no-one but myself...