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Mar 17th 2024, 2:05:28

I’m not playing on Alliance so I didn’t kill anyone.

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Mar 17th 2024, 1:58:55

I’m not justifying what he did., but using derogatory language to the point that warrants deletion is not much better than a person trying to create a coalition of players to go up against Darkness by inflating numbers.

At the end of the day the competition he created made the team server more interesting.
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Mar 17th 2024, 1:55:46

Purple is still purple.

Those comparisons you gave are radically different.

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Mar 16th 2024, 19:57:23

It's market intel. Seems reasonable to be part of market spy op.

Here's the thing. If you saw a country with 50 missiles, you know that country is likely going to attack someone.

Similarly if I saw someone had a SO for warfare tech at 5k it could indicate the direction of a country.

Also,. there are tricks of transfering wealth from one country to another not using FA. ie( buyout medical tech then sell your tech for $9999 and have the people with money buy it.) By seeing the SOs you could then sell your tech at 8k and undercut their sale.
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Mar 16th 2024, 19:44:05

lol @ this post
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Mar 16th 2024, 19:42:22

What I find interesting is that every person screaming about Milk's cheating has purple in their history too.

Hell even I do. Granted mine were due to attacking two different clans in one set which was against rules during Tela's reign.
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Mar 16th 2024, 19:37:26

165 	61 	Suicidal (#152) 	237	$56,981 	M 	Alpha
165 48 Suicidal (#151) 1475 $162,458 I Alpha
165 63 Suicidal (#145) 0 $30,866 I Alpha
165 Suicidal (#142) 1399 $242,129 I Alpha
165 Suicidal (#139) 2158 $223,744 M Alpha
165 Suicidal (#129) 4118 $326,059 I Alpha
165 Suicidal (#119) 2648 $358,820 I Alpha
165 Suicidal (#99) 1729 $407,327 I Alpha
165 Suicidal (#83) 1603 $288,073 I Alpha
165 Suicidal (#5) 2154 $254,098 I Alpha


Going for the most deaths award?
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Mar 16th 2024, 19:35:49

Clearly you cared otherwise you wouldn't have commented on it.
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Mar 16th 2024, 16:01:15

I think we need another thread to validate these results.
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Mar 16th 2024, 14:51:25

Yeah that sounds like a 500 error. Fatal errors typically have behavior like that.

It sounds like the variable which identifies the country you want to declare peace with gets reset (replaced with NULL) after you SS/PS.

Many times there are hidden inputs which have these values and likely after you attack this hidden value is likely not getting the value carried over. So when you declare peace you’re telling the database to declare peace with null.

Edited By: Celphi on Mar 16th 2024, 14:57:08
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Mar 16th 2024, 14:47:54

Where to
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Mar 16th 2024, 4:57:04

I give Slag a hard time but to be fair he’s actually going through the SUGs and BUGs & addressing them. Not to derail your intent of your thread man., I do appreciate the work you’ve done for EE.
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Mar 16th 2024, 4:54:40

As someone has already said., PCI means nothing. It’s like saying someone has 1 million SPAL but has 1 acre.
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Mar 16th 2024, 4:49:02

Even if you thwart their attack this round you’ll have to deal with them every set. Best to use diplomacy imo.
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Mar 16th 2024, 4:47:42

At the end of the day if someone wants to suicide your country it’s near impossible to prevent. That’s why it’s best to use diplomacy. Reach out to your attacker and look for common ground.
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Mar 16th 2024, 4:43:48

Track it? Kinda. It would require automation which is what many bots do which is technically against rules. The other option is to monitor eestats which is every 5 mins. (Which would be too slow of a notification)

Other tricks are to monitor jet/oil purchases on public market on irc. If purchases is made then peak at network increases of suspect country. Just depends on your attackers attention to detail.


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Mar 16th 2024, 4:35:11

But a 500 error would do the same. So in sure Slag could see that in error log.
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Mar 16th 2024, 4:33:42

Possibly your ee cookie expired.

Are you sure you did those sequences without a large gap of time?
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Mar 16th 2024, 1:04:15

It's going to be easier to do the follow:

Create:
Country A
Country B

Ensure B has all their stats on advisor page are NOT 0.
Spy B from A.
Screenshot values before navigating away from page.
Open view saved spy ops.
Compare the saved values to screenshot values.

Added bonus: ( cant recall if this was still an issue)
Take 1 turn with country B
Review saved spy op on A & see if anything changed. (without spying again)

Edited By: Celphi on Mar 16th 2024, 1:07:01
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Mar 16th 2024, 1:01:09

It was transfered to a member in LAF so now they host it.

Though, there's some bugs on their site im not sure if they're aware of.
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Mar 16th 2024, 0:57:59

@Slagpit
Is the holdup on this the ability to send out emails?
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Mar 16th 2024, 0:53:59

You can find this here:
https://eestats.lafamiglia-ee.eu/alliance/country/514

click tab -> history
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Mar 16th 2024, 0:52:02

Esp when you see his networth dropped by 1/2 in 5mins.
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Mar 16th 2024, 0:51:02

Storm (#514)
Rank 480 Government Fascism
Networth $362,791 GDI No
Land 2,844 acres DR 42
NW / Land 127.56 Tag mars2025

GaMeTime: 2024-03-16 00:50:10

History
time name networth land special tag
2024-03-15 20:35:01 Storm $362,791 2,844 acres F mars2025
2024-03-15 18:55:01 Storm $361,891 2,824 acres F mars2025
2024-03-14 17:05:01 Storm $425,089 3,129 acres F mars2025
2024-03-14 17:00:01 Storm $955,614 3,129 acres F mars2025 <--------
2024-03-14 16:55:01 Storm $968,308 3,129 acres F mars2025 <-------
2024-03-14 16:50:01 Storm $551,611 3,129 acres F mars2025
2024-03-14 16:45:01 Storm $401,306 3,129 acres F mars2025
2024-03-14 16:30:01 Storm $300,495 3,129 acres F mars2025
2024-03-14 13:40:01 Storm $299,986 3,129 acres F mars2025
2024-03-14 13:35:01 Storm $299,815 3,129 acres F mars2025

Looks like he jumped in NW then sold his stuff
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Mar 16th 2024, 0:03:18

There's almost 80k rows. Kinda puts into perspective who has been here the longest..
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Mar 16th 2024, 0:02:37

MariaDB [ee]> select * from user limit 10;
+----+---------+---------+
| id | user_id | name |
+----+---------+---------+
| 1 | 1 | qzjul |
| 2 | 2 | Soviet |
| 3 | 3 | Earth |
| 4 | 4 | qz |
| 5 | 5 | Pang |
| 6 | 6 | |
| 7 | 7 | Turtle |
| 8 | 8 | Makinso |
| 9 | 9 | NukEvil |
| 10 | 10 | qzjul2 |
+----+---------+---------+
10 rows in set (0.001 sec)
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Mar 15th 2024, 19:27:36

I just don’t want to pay $10 a month hosting a site that only like 5 ppl use, otherwise I’d just put up a site that showed them all.
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Mar 15th 2024, 19:25:13

Which handle do you want Req? I have them all.
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Mar 15th 2024, 16:06:40

Basically the trick works like this:

1. Record all the top 100 scores
2. Once the set ends record updated top 100 scores. (takes like a day or two)
3. Subtract #2 from #1.
4. Match #3 results to ending scores of set.

What does this do?
It identifies players who are in top 100 which countries they played, regardless if their profile is public or not. If you've done this for awhile like me you would catch those anonymous players identify who their country was one set and forever be able to know who they were.

What I've noticed recently:
The top 100 goes beyond 100 now & the anonymous tags appear to be gone.

When it doesn work:
If a player dies or the player wasn't in top 100; but, from looking at the scores now it seems the top 100 has been expanded.
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Mar 14th 2024, 5:01:54

Yikes
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Mar 14th 2024, 5:00:49

/wave dd
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Mar 13th 2024, 21:53:42

The names could easily be pulled from past sets. There’s years of data of real players. Just use those.
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Mar 13th 2024, 21:11:54

The whole point of making bots were to emulate human players.

They've turned these bots into large explore buttons. What's the point of the explore button? LIke really? We have zero retal, yellow highlighted, countries with max gains per hit.

Just up the explore button to 250A a turn and then nobody can complain about DR. No really. This is literally the direction it's going. Instead of addressing the underlying problem of making the bots play more human like and less distinguishable from real players we do the opposite. You stated the bots don't reply., then make it so they do?? If you guys don't want to take up the task of making these smart type of bots then allow us the ability to help by allowing the creation of them. 1 per player. This is the EXPRESS server. It's meant to be an experiment server. If it doesnt work out change direction the next set.

Edited By: Celphi on Mar 13th 2024, 21:14:18
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Mar 13th 2024, 8:00:24

You ask us what we want.. we list them and then you suggest changing something nobody even suggested. What's the point of even asking?
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Mar 13th 2024, 7:49:21

Your proposal would only reward the people placing the bots into DR with more land.
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Mar 13th 2024, 7:47:25

No.
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Mar 13th 2024, 1:08:45

@KoH

How so?
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Mar 12th 2024, 21:33:25

What happened to Marshal?
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Mar 11th 2024, 17:56:00

I misspoke on # 3.

It meant to say allow a player to make a bot (not bots). So instead of creating a country they could make a single bot country instead. The idea behind this is to expedite bot improvement.
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Mar 10th 2024, 21:43:44

My suggestions:

1. Increase number of bots by 4x
2. Program current bots to hit back.
3. Allow players to create bots.
4. Increase the consumption of oil on server. ( I don't even think bots buy oil ).
5. Increase the consumption of food on server. 30% more.
6. Remove the 0s in input fields.
7. Change GDI to be same as other servers
8. Decrease spy DR from 24hrs to 6hrs.
9. Decrease the consumption of bus/res tech by bots (spread it out more to other techs)
10. Change turn wait time from 4mins to 2mins.
11. Mask the bots. (stop showing which are bots are not) (use a better method of selecting names so players cant identify which is real or not)
12. Give 10% bonus for declaring war (re-add this feature)
13. Allow players to def ally with bots (after changing gdi rules)
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Mar 10th 2024, 7:34:41

Also unless you have a dedicated VPN IP you're likely to get a different IP every time.
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Mar 10th 2024, 7:33:09

The IP approach is too easily exploitable.

Tell the developers to look up Browser Fingerprinting. (ie. Canvas fingerprinting, WebGL fingerprinting).
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Mar 10th 2024, 6:54:41

It's one of three possibilities:

1. keep Fields get MHJ.
2. trade out
3. get Calib

Vegas has Calib at -1200 so I mean to me it's obvious they go with Calib.
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Mar 10th 2024, 6:48:12

WeaponsTech% * GovtBonus * Readiness * (Troops + Jets*2 + Tanks*4) + min(WeaponsTech% * GovtBonus * Readiness * (Troops + Jets*2 + Tanks*4), 0.25 * (AlliesTroops + AlliesJets*2 + AlliesTanks*4)) where min(value1,value2) = lower of the two values
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