SOL has no reason to believe you want to act in their best interests Pang when you are the one who is responsible for the following attacks on their alliance. Apologise, retract or insist your views have changed..

Aug 25th 2010, 19:26:54
wow, SOL lies again

Sep 7th 2010, 13:43:49
I'd think long and hard about your alliance with SOL
LaF had an FDP with them for a long time, and this is how it turns out :)

this is how it always turns out for ALL of SOL's allies.... they just hit you, then talk fluff about you, and flame you. So you guys should look forward to that

Sep 23rd 2010, 19:28:36
i'm not questioning whether stewy was a "good leader" or anyting... I'm just saying that it displays the kind of character SOL leaders have to basically lie to their membership about who is actually leading their alliance

Sep 23rd 2010, 19:51:39
I always thought it was kind of weird that SOL, after being beaten fluffless by IX for so long would allow one of their heads to come and join up and lead the alliance, while the members are kept in the dark.

Sep 23rd 2010, 19:51:39
I guess SOL isn't known for transparency anyways... even to their own members it seems

Oct 4th 2010, 14:03:48
I predict NA vs SOL this set in a battle of whose retal policy is stupider and more convoluted

Oct 9th 2010, 15:11:29
ya, maki doesn't actually like try to be accurate very often anymore... just tries to spin it in a pro-SOL way

Oct 9th 2010, 14:39:38
SOL has 1 good war set and you claim they're the #1 fighters? :p
even after they got their asses handed to them the previous set by netters, because they weren't effectively able to blindside them for a change

Oct 17th 2010, 18:30:33
SoL has been ambushing netters since EE started

Oct 17th 2010, 20:15:59
What I'm talking about is how fighters, namely SOL, have generally stopped fighting eachother and just pact eachother and rotate which netters they hit

Oct 17th 2010, 17:36:00
SOL is killing this server.

Oct 24th 2010, 21:06:53
as for first punches... does running around the server and spreading untruths count as the "first punch"? if so, SOL never stopped punching from last round.

Oct 24th 2010, 22:20:44
I don't believe for a second that SOL doesn't have spies in LaF.

Oct 25th 2010, 20:57:16
@SOL - seriously, for a war alliance who was given the war you want, you guys sure do mouth off and complain a lot

Oct 25th 2010, 20:35:13
the funny thing about SPIN is that it changes so much from set to set, when it comes from SOL

Oct 25th 2010, 20:23:56
you SOL'ers should shut up on AT... you guys don't really do yourselves any favours with your attempted SPIN

Oct 26th 2010, 2:56:17
why does SOL have to try and make everything so drama filled? This is a war we can all sit back and enjoy... i called that this kind of crap spewing would start (from SOL) in another thread. It's unfortunate, but expected.

Oct 28th 2010, 20:01:30
I don't actually spin things, SOL's just tries to spin it so that I am seen as a spinner.

Nov 2nd 2010, 23:09:37
but just because SOL pulls the wool over their members eyes, use trolling as a 'legitimate' political tactic and always take the low road doesn't mean that other alliances do

Nov 4th 2010, 20:21:40
wow, SOL trolls are quick to turn a nice walling based thread into a trashtalking one!

Nov 4th 2010, 20:32:48
then keep discussing that... or is this the part of the SOL war strategy where it switches from ingame killing to AT bashing, like last set? :p

Nov 13th 2010, 5:36:22
bobby's getting the typical SOL training, it seems.

birds of a feather and all that...

Nov 29th 2010, 19:05:44
SOL members have been on a campaign to smear netters for abusing untaggeds

Nov 29th 2010, 19:04:03
SOL needs to get a handle on their members... or has SOL given up entirely on PR

Jan 12th 2011, 15:44:53
I guess it kind of shows how long you will be friends with SoL for -- unless you're sof

Jan 15th 2011, 0:29:47
ironic, given SOL's history with abusing policing earlier this set

Dec 21st 2010, 15:20:20
I hope Ivan's gift to sof for Christmas is him stepping down as dictator of the alliance.

It wasn't? I call bullfluff..

Oct 13th 2010, 19:57:13
None of the fighting alliances can be considered to be #1 until such a time that they fight other fighting alliances of similar or equal size. SoL vs sof would be a good start.

Oct 17th 2010, 17:52:58
when was the last time SOL fought a fighting alliance?

Oct 17th 2010, 18:57:39
sof is almost exact same number of members SoL is.
Both are fighting alliances.
Start there, perhaps?
SoL is DP'ed to all the fighting alliances. That is unnatural and hurting the server. That is my core argument.

Dec 2nd 2010, 22:00:09
sof vs SoL would be good to see though... one of those two is the best "war alliance" in terms of being able to effectively kill countries.

Jan 15th 2011, 0:55:33
@SOL - fight someone challenging for a change next set... sof would be good



Both SoL/SoF have built their alliances from numbers that were less than LaF, LCN etc as recently as 3 resets ago. Don't get lazy and blame balance on your inability to match these efforts.



Stop trying to script the game. It evolves naturally. You really think SOL and SOF will be pacted forever? You're a massive control freak.



The onus is NOT on SOL and SOF just because they are bigger and better than your alliance and your best buddies other alliance in EVO. There are other ways to incite change than to use your admin soapbox to encourage alliances to change their pact lists.

This is counter productive and harmful to the game. I don't trust you when you speak about SOL and the reason why is your vitriol against SOL, posted below.

No they weren't.

Can Pang post once without using the word troll? As if everyone with something to say in protest has some sort of conspiracy to trash the admins and not make a valid point?

qz always comes across as a professional. He doesnt get involved in trashing other alliances, at least seems impartial publically and does a damn fine job. This is at odds with other admins in slagpit, pang and nukevil. Take a leaf out of qz's book please and at least try to keep your prejudices off the boards.

You're a suicider that is suiciding on the one alliance that hits less untaggeds than every other alliance.

Good work attention seeker. Join an alliance and get off the boards.

Here we go again with Pang. Everyone else is a troll, everyone else tries to spin his honest and well-intentioned posts with thier disingenuous smilies.

Reality check Pang - no one believes you have your heart in the right place no matter how much you whine that you and Slagpit et al were the saviours of this game. You chose to involve yourself in alliance politics. You have shown your hatred of SOL and of SOF over the last 6 months and you can't be believed even when you claim to be acting in the best interests of the game.

You can't have it both ways.

Either apologise for the way you have described SOL and SOF in the past or assert that you have moved on from being an admin that sticks their nose too heavily in alliance politics.

If you want anyone other than the lackeys in Evo and LaF to give you a fair hearing you have to do one of those two things.

Any sympathy you may have garnered with your last thread just evaporated with this attention seeking effort.

You play as an untagged, you lose your rights. Sad but true. If you are such a champion of untagged rights you should never join any alliance in this game. That includes the worst offenders in EVO and LaF who seem to pop up and spew righteousness in the face of their 5K hits a set on untagged players.

SOL hits untaggeds to keep up with the real offenders. You're a moron if you think this action will (a) make SOL anything but happy in killing your country (b) divert attention away from the real thugs in this game who try to direct attention away from themselves by denouncing SOL and SOF at every opportunity.

I'm sure any alliance that harbors a suicider will also make SOL all too happy. You've shown your true colors here. An attention seeker who has masqueraded as a hard luck story.

All of those on-topic, relevant, game-related posts definately deserved more than that!

Thanks to fooglmog for being a voice of support/reason even though we come from different sides of the tracks.

These mods really have a short fuse when it come to anything slightly controversial with the way they run the game. Maybe a concrete tablet is needed to harden up and confront the growing questions about the direction this game is heading.

Yes!

Anyway. The game actually seems to be growing.. 750 + countries is more than two sets ago. Maybe the negativity and laziness needs to be replaced by activity and recruiting?

TEST: Am I unbanned by nazi mods?

Pang/Slagpit this censorship has really got to stop.

I note you've already permanently banned dagga for his 'rebellion' (granted he mixed in some 'enthusiastic' comments along the way) and now that I have asked you some questions about this game's future and also am an ex-SOLer I assume I am next on the list.

My question stands: You are slowly moving this game towards a business model by offering up a paid service for some perks - are we going to see a more professional approach from the main Alliance Server admins?

This is not random bashing/flaming/trolling against admins - qzjul is an extremely good administrator who seems to keep an even keel. The hysterical nature and bias of some of the comments made by you guys is not encouraging. You should welcome these types of threads because if there is no merit to them your influence is strengthened. Keep deleting these on-topic, game-related, legitimate threads and people will continue to talk. I received several private messages after my last thread was deleted and the one after that, closed.

Didn't like the questions it asked?

Why didn't you give a mature response to some very legitimate questions instead of doing the predicatable 'delete - nothing to see here' routine.

PS. Every alliance in the game farmed your country into the dust Prima and you chose SOL to retal.

Whoops.

Next time take some advice - either (a) run a country in an alliance (read: the game is called Alliance Server) (b) pisso ff to Primary or (c) retal the sissies like Evo or LaF who are the real villains in untagged farming. They just like to whinge about SOL to cover their asses from their disgraceful records when it comes to untaggeds.

Nukevil you are a pissant. Your alliance farms more untaggeds than any other yet you still feel the need to stick your nose places where it shouldn't be.

I'm scared you represent this game as an admin if you can't get over an ass whooping SOL dished out to Evo in the last 2 years.

Fix up your own backyard and come back here little boy.

Party's not started yet but can SOL gloat like you idiots did when you and Omega double teamed them? Wow, you guys were crowing like you'd just won the super bowl. SOL's dumb move that reset was sticking up for those dummies in IMAGNUM. Your dumb move this reset was pulling out a selfish first strike in contrast to the rest of the server who decided pointless wars were a thing of the past. Funny how the game swings around.

RIP.

PS. EVERYONES INVITED WHEN #201 DIES!! THE BEER ISN'T COLD YET!

I'm sure SOL wishes RAGE all the best in their move over to SoF. A little thank you for the bail-out might have been nice on this thread somewhere too. :-)



(not playing but, just saying..)

The billowing war flag of SOL approaches on the horizon. The drums are beating. The sound of jets screaming. The storm is coming.

Are you guys going into turtle mode? 700 hits per day, heaps of SS/PS.

You'd get more credit if you killed more instead of trying to keep the lead in Avg Networth! :-) I thought you guys were better than that. My friendly advice is don't start wars you can't finish!

/me throws out a lure.

LaF and EVO are trying to outdo each in running untagged players out of the game. It is ironic that it's these two alliances who have the only admins in the game?

EVO - ~2,000 hits for 36 members
LAF - ~3,000 hits for 51 members

I think it's neck and neck but if Pang can rally the LaF members for a late untagged player purge, they may get across the line!

It is a bit rich when they came on here and ripped SOL for "topfeeding" them after our war with imagnum. Point 1 - There is no topfeeding anymore. You coded it out of the game to suit yourselves - the only way to achieve decent returns is to be a similar networth. Point 2 - Stop blaming war alliances for all the evil in the game. You are using it as a smokescreen for your own horrible actions.

Also all this talk about RAGE --> we will see where LCN stands next reset after they are tagkilled after having a huge NW/BREAKER adv.



(I found signatures!) :-)

Slagpit, why do you always have to post about SoL on these sort threads? I woulda thought that as a "Game Development" administrator you would be above such trolling.

I think you're still smarting from an ass whooping we gave EVOLUTION a little while ago. Let me wipe away your tears with this tissue you baby!!

PS. Are you Sad Panda (#876)?? Wouldn't be the first time one of you guys ran a random country to ruin someone else's fun!!!