I've never understood this and never really cared but I guess I'm finally curious enough to ask.

They took:
103 acres (135 gained)
50 buildings (98 destroyed)

What the hell is this?

So, the country being hit definitely loses 103 acres, but there's 135 acres gained. That means the attacker gets 32 ghost acres. But 50 buildings. So building capture and ghost acres are different amounts... but I always thought they were connected. Like, you get more ghost acres if you attack someone with the same type of buildings? In fact, I believe the dictator ghost acre bonus was so they could capture more buildings. But since the numbers don't match, I wonder. Is one of the numbers a function of the other? Or are they independent but both based off the size of the grab?

Okay, and all that is one thing, but then why are 98 buildings "destroyed"? What does that mean? If the defender lost 103 acres, and I gained 50 buildings, then weren't only 53 buildings destroyed? Even if hypothetical buildings were "destroyed" on the 32 ghost acres, that still would only add up to 85 buildings destroyed. 98? I can't figure where that number comes from and I assume it's just meaningless nonsense.

Nice topic, I have often wondered this myself.

Defender lost 103 acres,
Attacker gains 135 acres out of which 32 are ghost acres.

Attacker gains 50 buildings from the defender.
Defender loses 103 buildings.

Building capture does not equal to ghost acres since ghost acres are just empty acres. What buildings you capture during your attack are based on what your defender has. If he has 50% ent, 40% res 10% indies, you would have gotten 25 ent, 20 res and 5 indies from your attack.

You dont get more ghost acres if you attack with someone with same type of buildings.

I dont really know how dict bonus works but it seems like dict just get an extra 32% in land gain to me with some extra added buildings.

I have no idea how the destroyed buildings are computed but it should tally up with acres lost by adding captured and destroyed buildings.
http://forums.earthempires.com/...=ps-attack-with-buildings

You're sure you don't get more buildings if the person has the same type of buildings as you?

Here's the answer, posted by qz 3 weeks ago. He also fixed a bug in that same thread with how it reports it.



PS: You can click on the "posted" word that is a link to jump to it.

Xin, that's not really the answer... how did the defender lose 98 buildings if he lost 103 land?

bonus post! :D

He might have some empty acres thus losing 103 land but only 98 buildings. 5 barren land were lost.

Hmmm.... but it never seems to match. I'll look out if everyone always has barren land.

Also, no one has answered as to the connection between ghosts/buildings. This indicates there is one:

"I'm not 100% sure that the 3rd (Buildings GAINED by the Attacker) is being reported entirely correctly for Type II Ghost Acres"

Yep and the post after that in his thread said he reversed the 3rd and 4th number in the javascript, which qz fixed.

The defender lost 103 acres, of which clearly 5 are barren.

50 of them were captured though, not destroyed. He should just delete the part about how many buildings were destroyed, no one needs to see that.

Xin, can you confirm what h2o said, that building types have no impact on grabs?

And is there a connection between ghosts/buildings captured? Like, if I hit someone whose ghost DR is maxed out so I get 536 (536) do I get any buildings? I always thought I didn't but I guess I probably do. But still, that enigmatic line from qzjul suggests a connection.

You do get buildings even if your grab is 536(536).

As far as I can tell, building types have no impact on grabs. Other than you cannot gain CSes, so those aren't included in the calculation.

Must just be confirmation bias, I always thought I got more when I popped someone with my building type.

The bonus of hitting someone with the same building types is the building you gained your not wasting money to destroy them so you can rebuild them with what your want, as they already are what you want.

Attacker gains 50 buildings from the defender.
Defender loses 103 buildings.
buildings lost just means you left the grabbed country with acres that he has to rebuild.

I won't totally give up my "same buildings" theory until I see someone test it. Afterall, we know that having the same buildings affects bomb structures... having jets at home helps bomb airbases.... etc

Bomb structures and airbases are like that because it wouldn't make sense for a 200 SPAL country on 500a on 1/12 the humanitarians range to massively grief a player 12x his size while sitting on nothing.

Tested on alpha ffa.

Country A - 500ent/500res/100CS
Country B - 500ent/500res/100CS
Country C - 500ent/500res/100CS
Country D- 1000farms/100CS

1) A hits C

They took:
111 Acres(112 Gained)
1 Buildings(111 Destroyed)
170,995 Bushels
$56,917,410

2) B hits D
They took:
112 Acres(113 Gained)
1 Buildings(112 Destroyed)
175,743 Bushels
$57,375,182

Probably should tested with more land. No idea why no ghost acres were gained.

That's messed up

Poor country B... always dressed up for a party but never invited. :(