to be fair to laf, they didn't have a decline due to sol -- they lost all their best most active leaders to either game dev or RL the set that SoL decided to blindside them.

i had some more stuff here, but I'm on vacation... so if this is still going on when I get home, i'll be happy to rekindle that issue then.
feel free to read my "previous post" or whatever if you're inclined to, but I'm not going to take part further until i'm home next week.