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Pain Game profile

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Nov 27th 2010, 4:59:14

he got LaE to disband. hurray for gregg!!!! all that hard work has finally paid off!

http://forums.earthempires.com/...p;p=1290833846&page=1
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NOW3P Game profile

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Nov 27th 2010, 5:04:44

Unconfirmed

LaE still exists. It's just that LaE's killers chose to join a clan where they would have a chance to kill things instead of just protect netters. LaE may or may not continue to be a netting clan in FFA - that's not up to us.

LaEx is also still around, so keep your daughters locked up.

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Nov 27th 2010, 5:26:46

GREGG WAS RIGHT!

Evil failed to triumph!

Slagpit Game profile

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Nov 27th 2010, 5:35:40

gregg RESTRICTED LaE to 0% of its cheat size!

Pain Game profile

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Nov 27th 2010, 6:46:18

im so thankful for gregg.

i honestly believe thanksgiving was invented to celebrate gregg.
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lincoln

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Nov 27th 2010, 8:23:43

good does triumph over evil

with the demise of LaE and its evil stillborn
the golden age is finally ushered in

i join in celebrating gregg's accomplishment
noble slagpit played a crucial role as well
i rejoice in any small role i may have played in aiding gregg


GREGG WAS RIGHT
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lincoln

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Nov 27th 2010, 8:41:49



GREGG WAS RIGHT


GREGG WAS RIGHT

thank God almighty

GREGG WAS RIGHT


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Nov 28th 2010, 1:45:25

because it's so much better to have them as a war clan instead of a netting one ...
This is our fluffing city. And no one is going to dictate our freedom. Stay strong.

Warster Game profile

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Nov 28th 2010, 1:48:04

HAHAHA express had nothing to do with LAE's split
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Nov 28th 2010, 1:49:39

you guys are nuts!
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lincoln

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Nov 28th 2010, 13:37:03



the express forums ARE the cause for the split

the first time fordy ever called HWCNG "a idiot"(sic) was on the express forum

the first three times dunder ever told HWCNG to be quiet occurred on the express forum

the first time fordy failed to rally to HWCNG's racist, anti-semitic sometimes just plain ridiculous statements was on the express forum

if you want to trace the first cracks in the rift that eventually saved the Earth Empires site, go back and trace the growing tensions between the puppets on this forum


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mrford Game profile

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Nov 28th 2010, 18:46:25

Originally posted by lincoln:


the express forums ARE the cause for the split

the first time fordy ever called HWCNG "a idiot"(sic) was on the express forum

the first three times dunder ever told HWCNG to be quiet occurred on the express forum

the first time fordy failed to rally to HWCNG's racist, anti-semitic sometimes just plain ridiculous statements was on the express forum

if you want to trace the first cracks in the rift that eventually saved the Earth Empires site, go back and trace the growing tensions between the puppets on this forum





Me and now3p and thunder have been playin together and against eachother for the better part of like 5 years.


Every statment you just made is false. We have had our squabbles many tes before. Your ego is just too big to accept that reality.
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NOW3P Game profile

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Nov 28th 2010, 22:16:42

mrford is still a very good friend of mine. He's one of the few earthers I would ever consider meeting up with in RL and having a beer with. I know, not being able to build friendly relationships with others and all, you may not be able to understand how 2 people can disagree on something and still be friends, but there it is for ya.

Don't worry, LaE is not gone, just on hiatus while some of us get some killing out of our systems. LaE will return to be a bane in your existence soon enough.

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Nov 28th 2010, 23:13:31

most of us just dream of meeting now for beers, most of us just dream

mrford Game profile

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Nov 28th 2010, 23:15:43

I've meet 2 earthers

Lynn and GG. Both at a race they came into my town for. Talk about ackward.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

NOW3P Game profile

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Nov 28th 2010, 23:22:11

NASCAR makes everything akward :-P

mrford Game profile

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Nov 28th 2010, 23:36:55

I think it's more the extreme consumption of alcohol
Swagger of a Chupacabra

[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

braden Game profile

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Nov 28th 2010, 23:47:35

nascar is awesome.. and i'm not american. wow?
i have met a few, always with alcohol involved.

mrford Game profile

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Nov 29th 2010, 0:00:39

Well, GG was older, probably 40s. She had called me for directions and the best place to park. Finally met up in the track and she was with her husband and 2 kids lil. I was already kinda smashed and was double fisting brews. It was weird.

She even asked me if I was old enough to drink! (I had turned 21 7 days prior to the race) the nerve!
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

lincoln

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Nov 30th 2010, 18:44:14

"i love it when a plan comes together"
-anonymous

i enjoyed watching the psychological techniques and political science theories learned in college and practiced sporadically in real life work so well in a game setting.

When faced with a united front, the political principal of isolating an individual in the front and marginalizing him, reducing his stature and getting others in his organization to question him is taught by many theorists including Maoists, Alinsky and Gehring.
In this case, HWCNG made it easy because of his desire to constantly push the envelope way past the breaking point. Fordy and dunder were put in the untenable position of having to support outright racism, flagrant homophilia and blatant antisemitism or abandoning the united front. I went back and read the posts showing the power of LaE's united front during the scandal itself when they all held the line on a single lie until it was disproven conclusively and then uniformly adopting the next party line until it was disproven and then adopting yet another lie. One has to admire as a sick fascination, their fecklessness and tenacity in the face of overwhelming evidence. This united front was impervious to fact and stood the test of time for several months.

Perhaps the admins' decision not to punish LaE for the cheating scandal and the uniform lying that followed its discovery, hastened their demise. Perhaps the admins were right. Because the leniency prevented the genesis of the true "us against the world" mentality that fuels many criminal organizations and several sports franchises. Knowing that their punishment could and should have been much more severe, they were just left with neither a guiding philosophy nor the self-sustaining paranoia of say, the Oakland Raiders. The true believers like ice and jag who however misguided had a driving passion for cheating were gone. As the gravity of their offenses settled on the community, as they morphed from respected clan into reviled convicts, and as the community's sentiments against them began to accumulate, the rebellious bad-boy thrill of cheating, lying and whining like five year olds began to be overwhelmed by their sense that most of the smart guys on this server were now mocking them.

The moderators' decisions not to punish HWCNG no matter what he posted on the forum clearly hurt LaE in the long run as well, no perhaps here. Had the mods adopted a strict policy against HWCNG by deleting his racist posts, the pressure on fordy and dunder would not have been as great. They would not have had to support a deleted post but could simply have ignored it. When the LaE "leadership" as a whole had to adopt HWCNG's racism as clan policy that put fordy in a very tough spot. As a twist of irony that i love, fordy was made the editor of wiki and confronted with the task of having to decide whether to delete one of his side's racist homoerotic posts on the wiki or break ranks with the front. He decided not to delete the post and so qz had to do it.

Having successfully marginalized one member of the front, theorists then pressure others in the front to either support the marginalized member or break ranks. In this case, Fordy has a strange compulsion to deliberately misspell words and to sometimes post statements that are completely gibberish. The temptation is to attempt to marginalize him as well but unless care is taken the front will realize what is happening and simply remove the original marginalized member from the public front thus protecting him. I can not imagine why LaEx did not simply ban HWCNG from posting on this forum when they realized what was happening to him. The decision to allow him to continue posting long past the time when even Fordy and dunder were condemning him as "a idiot" (sic) and publicly telling him to stifle it was the nail in LaE's coffin. The rifts within the united public front spread through the organization like the cracks through a calving glacier. One tiny, apparently minor, crack on the surface led to the collapse of tons of ice.

I want to thank the admins for saving a game that allowed me over the course of several months to play out the psychological and political theories I love. This is the greatest game and i am indebted to slagpit qz and pang for hours of enjoyment on the forum.




Edited By: lincoln on Nov 30th 2010, 20:30:22
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mrford Game profile

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Nov 30th 2010, 19:09:18

Wow. You really are crazy.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

NOW3P Game profile

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Nov 30th 2010, 19:36:04

wow....all I see in that wall o' text is a whole lotta bat fluff crazy.

Warster Game profile

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Nov 30th 2010, 20:20:08

oh god my eyes
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Dragon Game profile

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Nov 30th 2010, 20:58:42

It's actually pretty funny. Does Gregg actually think that all the former LaE guys quit playing?

Now, if you use HIS logic, there are several "LaE Jr" clans/alliances as opposed to having all his evildoers in one tidy little box.

The game is no better or worse off than it was. But the upside is that maybe we won't hear so much incessant whining from here on out. Unless of course, he finds a new "cheating clan" to cry about.

NOW3P Game profile

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Nov 30th 2010, 21:24:48

So it's kinda like in Arachnaphobia where they kill the the big spider, and 100's of little ones scurry out and spread all over the place?

God that movie gave me the heebie jeebies!

Dragon Game profile

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Nov 30th 2010, 21:58:22

That WAS a creepy movie and I'm not particularly averse to spiders.

But that's pretty much my point. Real life history mirrors the notion that maybe there's more stability in a world with a Devil you know (think USSR) than a world with several devils you don't know.

NOW3P Game profile

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Nov 30th 2010, 22:33:06

Gregg's released so many spiders now, the big ones don't even have to do anything anymore.....all the other ones take care of it. Although he actually did survive last set for a change.

Dragon Game profile

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Nov 30th 2010, 22:42:08

Let's face facts. The guy doesn't really give a crap about the game itself but rather whether or not the game goes the way he thinks it should.

I'd sign up on a list that killed him repeatedly on every server he played. He's no better than what he claims to be against.

mrford Game profile

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Dec 1st 2010, 1:15:29

Welcome to LaEx Dragon

you have passed the entrance exam
Swagger of a Chupacabra

[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

lincoln

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Dec 1st 2010, 2:36:34

yes dragon does qualify
but why isnt he DQed?
-his IQ is obviously over 100 which normally would dq him

-he presumably can distinguish between (your) and (you're) which again would be a normally disqualifying quality

but he believes the fall of the USSR was a negative event for the safety of the US and world peace. he says we were better off with the USSR planning to kill us. he decries the fall of the berlin wall and wishes Ronnie had never delivered "Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall"

with the stunning logic of that single statement he qualifies not only for LaEx but also for the now defunct LaE, which foreverafter shall be known as tctGk, the clan that Gregg killed.

sir, when you say that the US was wrong to liberate hundreds of millions of people from LaExian tyranny you have made an enemy of me



Edited By: lincoln on Dec 1st 2010, 3:16:31
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Warster Game profile

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Dec 1st 2010, 3:41:11

Lincoln you are........

Actually that post just deserves a "no comment"
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mrford Game profile

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Dec 1st 2010, 4:47:26

Liberated them from TyRanny?


Lol. You know anything about former eastern loc countries right now? Most of them are under even worse tyranical rule, with less resources than they had as a "empire"

even worse, with all of these factions with deep seeded mistrust of the west instead of one large enemy, the us is obviously worse off. 1 big enemy is much easier to deal with than 20 smaller and less stable enemys.

What a tard.
Swagger of a Chupacabra

[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

lincoln

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Dec 1st 2010, 5:29:58

i fear that fordy's post passes as thoughtful analysis among some of today's inteLaEgentsia and apparently reflects the dragon queen's sentiments.

the misanalysis completely ignores germany, poland, ukraine and russia herself. hardly worth responding to such LunAcyE


fordy,
although that tard insult stung you personally as a child, it carries no weight in adult conversation
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NOW3P Game profile

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Dec 1st 2010, 5:42:07

and gregg's analysis ignores all of former Yugoslavia, Albania, Belgium, Turkey, all the countries ending in "Stan" formerly under Russian rule, etc.

D'oh!

lincoln

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Dec 1st 2010, 5:45:05

turkey??? belgium?????

you have got to love tctGk
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NOW3P Game profile

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Dec 1st 2010, 5:53:14

Turkmenistan (now part of modern day Turkey)?

Until 1991, it was a constituent republic of the Soviet Union, the Turkmen Soviet Socialist Republic (Turkmen SSR). Turkmenistan is one of the six independent Turkic states. It is bordered by Afghanistan to the southeast, Iran to the south and southwest, Uzbekistan to the east and northeast, Kazakhstan to the north and northwest and the Caspian Sea to the west.



Belgium has been a staunch supporter of Russia since the 50's, and most certainly falls within the bounds of Eastern Europe. Trust me, I've been there several times....it's most certainly a very red country.



Double D'oh?

lincoln

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Dec 1st 2010, 6:00:02

the stupidity knows no bounds
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Warster Game profile

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Dec 1st 2010, 6:03:19

Lincoln seems to know everything about everything
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Dec 1st 2010, 6:07:40

NOW3P

Turkmenistan is on the eastern side of the caspian sea, north of Iran and afghanistan, turkey is to the west of caspian sea next to georgia

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lincoln

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Dec 1st 2010, 6:12:48

why not explain to him where belgium is?

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NOW3P Game profile

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Dec 1st 2010, 6:14:34

oops - I think I meant Kurdistan. My bad - it's late, and all those Stans are confusing. Point still remains that lincoln forgot the whole of eastern Europe.

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Dec 1st 2010, 6:18:47

Kurdistan is part of turkey, the rest is in Irag, Iran and Syria these days
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NOW3P Game profile

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Dec 1st 2010, 6:21:28

Yup - that was the one I was thinking. Guess the Turk in Turkmenistan threw me off.

Memory gets fuzzy w/ old age, lol.

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Dec 1st 2010, 6:43:31

Shut up..you're younger then me
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Dec 1st 2010, 7:34:38

/me hot wires Thunder's power chair and drives off

lincoln

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Dec 1st 2010, 16:34:20

as to dragon's point that LaE players will keep cheating
not if they go to a respectable clan they wont
i do not share fordys view that everyone cheats

the admins know that cheating occurs
they caught JJ pretty quick
any clan with DM in it needs four full time moderators inspecting the site

but the largest clan with institutionalized cheating and lying is dead

hallelujah
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dantzig Game profile

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Dec 1st 2010, 19:08:25

I read this in the Bible today:

"gregg says to the upright and just players:
"Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet."
gregg will extend his mighty scepter from the forums, saying,
"Rule in the midst of your enemies!"
Your troops will be willing
on your day of battle.
Arrayed in holy splendor,
your young men will come to you
like dew from the morning's womb.
gregg has sworn
and will not change his mind:
"You are anointed forever,
in the order of the holy gregg."
gregg is at your right hand;
he will crush the cheaters on the day of his wrath.
He will judge the nations, heaping up the dead
and crushing the rulers of the cheater clans.
He will drink from a brook along the way,
and so he will lift his head high."
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lincoln

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Dec 1st 2010, 19:15:35

yes he is always with us

so much so

that our enemies think he is us
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NOW3P Game profile

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Dec 1st 2010, 21:50:15

It's ok gregg - we all formed a new clan together so you still have something to fluff about. Although KAx doesn't have the same ring to it, we'll still be happy to feign organization here so you don't get bored.

lincoln

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Dec 1st 2010, 22:34:35

the burning ashes of a destroyed clan trying to recoalesce in tiny pools of their spilt guts presents neither threat nor challenge

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