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NOW3P Game profile

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Dec 1st 2010, 23:08:51

keep tellin yourself that. Matter of fact, why not come to FFA and prove how wonderful you are? Several folks proved 1 man clans can survive quite well there... if they know what they're doing, that is....

lincoln

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Dec 2nd 2010, 6:16:56

this server is the server of choice
anything else is just a slow-motion imitation

this server's community's destruction of LaE was just collateral damage to killing LaEx.
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Warster Game profile

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Dec 2nd 2010, 6:23:31

this isnt the best server of the game, its the training ground just like primary,

Alliance and FFA are the elite servers
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Slagpit Game profile

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Dec 2nd 2010, 6:40:53

The most competitive is not necessarily the best imo.

Warster Game profile

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Dec 2nd 2010, 6:57:43

actually i should have said alliance and FFA are the more intense servers
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NOW3P Game profile

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Dec 2nd 2010, 7:14:39

meh - don't encourage him. Do you really want FFAT looking like ET?

lincoln

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Dec 2nd 2010, 13:15:12

a server where you log in once a day max
is more intense than a server where you have to log in at least four times a day for market reasons?
and where evvery time you log in you have to wonder if someone hit you three times?
and where perhaps some country is mid jump and has no defense for a ton of acreage?
that is patently absurd

care to change your word choice again warster??
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Slagpit Game profile

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Dec 2nd 2010, 18:41:19

If I'm playing an all-X casher or farmer I usually only login six times during the set.

NOW3P Game profile

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Dec 2nd 2010, 19:21:30

lol - gregg must not have discovered news feeds yet.

lincoln

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Dec 2nd 2010, 20:11:03

slagpit,

thats true of course

if you play allx

any server can lack intensity even express
i think it is a shame to play allx
in a target rich environment like express
but that is a proven high % formula for a top ten finish
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Warster Game profile

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Dec 2nd 2010, 20:15:08

lincoln alliance and FFA arent just about gameplay, politics, running alliances

here ur actions only affect you, on alliance and ffa a players actions benefit or hurt everyone in your alliance

here you play for 5 days, you stuff up your country you get to start again in a few days

alliance and FFA if you stuff up your country you have to wait up to at least 6 weeks

FFA you are playing up to 16 countries a day , thats a little bit more intense then one country in express
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Warster Game profile

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Dec 2nd 2010, 20:16:17

oh and 100+ plus countries isnt a target rich environment
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NOW3P Game profile

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Dec 2nd 2010, 20:43:27

I would say it's a personal taste thing. Obviously gregg has grown accustomed to playing by himself, so the servers where friendships play into the game are not going to be as interesting for him.

For those of us who are a little better socially adjusted though, the added layers of complexity create a more entertaining experience than some server where you show up, play your turns selfishly, and don't even know who you're interacting with 1/2 the time.

To each his own, I guess.

lincoln

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Dec 2nd 2010, 23:02:05

warster,

do not make the error of comparing one set of express against one set of ffa, that is clearly ridiculous
running sixteen allx countries can not compare to eight weeks of express
we agree on one thing. on ffa and alliance if there is no war
you have six weeks of waiting, your words not mine, (i would have said the mind numbing tedium of empty netting) but you said waiting
72 days of sitting around waiting for something to happen for the six days at most of enjoyment in a war

in the waiting six weeks of ffa and alliance when there is no war and nothing but waiting for days on end
on express you will have waged six intense sets and if you use your spies and forum posts well perhaps
exposed two cheating scandals
here if you play long enough and well enough
and you couple that with diligent detective play
you eventually have a hand in killing off the site's largest clan

there is no such opportunity on ffa or alliance or primary for that matter
the pace of the game on express makes pattern detection and cheater exposure so much easier because of the volume of data
six sets of ffa takes a year
pattern cheating is much harder to detect in such an environment
and keeping the interest and suspicion of the community over five sets of ffa would be nearly impossible
just for example look at the JJ situation. numerous deletions over consecutive sets in ffa would take half a year and no one would care, here it takes less than a month.

another benefit express enjoys over ffa and alliance is that the entire community is on the same action calendar
two days off, two days of waiting to grow, and three intense days of play followed by a climactic finish
ffa does not enjoy the same synchronization
no finish in ffa or alliance can ever compete with the express
finish where 20% of the turns are available for play in the last five minutes and mush of the community is on line
although as a side note i think that the move to sundays and the oct10 changes have slightly diminished that ending.
maybe a move back to monday is in order for the duration of the nfl season

warster, i understand your built-in bias against this server, many vets share the bias. Fordy, HWCNG, llaar, dunder DM have all come on at some point in the last few months and said that they do not care about this server at all. They call it a worthless empty server. You volunteer here to help the site as a whole not because of any particular appreciation of the server. just to be clear i appreciate your volunteered time and efforts.
but many do not share that bias.

here you choose your alliances and friends, in clans you join an organization where others you have not chosen represent you
on ffa your reputation can be ruined by the actions of others
here if you are branded a liar and a cheat it is your own fault

i for one am very glad i chose to spend my play time and energy on this server instead of the others


Edited By: lincoln on Dec 2nd 2010, 23:05:20
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Dibs Ludicrous Game profile

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Dec 2nd 2010, 23:06:32

let me see, warster has a built-in bias against this server because he prefers the clan servers, do you have any proof that he was forced into arbitrating this nasty little forum?
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NOW3P Game profile

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Dec 2nd 2010, 23:52:21

can someone summarize the wall of text in 10 words or less pls? I'm not about to waste brain cells reading it.

Dibs Ludicrous Game profile

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Dec 2nd 2010, 23:54:46

he stated that FFA has way more countries than express and you're not allowed to play express if you're tagged LaEx anywhere else.
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braden Game profile

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Dec 3rd 2010, 0:35:37

i skipped all of this, who wants to fill me in on what gregg finally did?

dantzig Game profile

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Dec 3rd 2010, 0:37:08

He vanquished LaE!
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braden Game profile

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Dec 3rd 2010, 0:39:21

oh, lae was who protected my netting in ffa back in the day.
this saddens me :(

Warster Game profile

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Dec 3rd 2010, 2:44:14

i'm glad you can read Lincoln , i said IF you stuff up your country you could be waiting up to 6 weeks before you can start fresh with reset of full turns

i said nothing about sitting around cos of no war ,

a players rep isnt ruined by actions of others in alliance and ffa , the rep of the Alliance itself can be ruined,

as to the so called bias,

you said this server was the server of choice

yeah your choice, more players play primary then express

you like Express, thats fair enough , i like express myself i just cant play it
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lincoln

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Jan 31st 2011, 18:58:13

bump
so readers can see HWCNG's statements about Belgium
and his statement that his memory is fading with age
he apparently is the golden ager not me
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Dibs Ludicrous Game profile

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Jan 31st 2011, 19:05:00

Originally posted by NOW3P:
and gregg's analysis ignores all of former Yugoslavia, Albania, Belgium, Turkey, all the countries ending in "Stan" formerly under Russian rule, etc.

D'oh!


dang, he did say that Gregg ignores da Belgium.
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Jan 31st 2011, 19:31:43

If You're Gay And You Know It,
Tap Your Feet!
If You're Gay And You Know It,
And You Really Want To Show It,
Tap Your Feet And Refer To NOW3P as HWCNG!
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