Not enough volume of oil moves on a lot of games to fix I suggest taking a a small% of the money that each country loses each turn that goes into oblivion maybe like 10% and make an equivalent amount that would need to be supplied by oil consumption.

Probably about 1 barrel for every $100 of expenses that would have been occurred.

This also then needs oil added at the right price on private market to remove oil glut and give baseline income for oiler.

So if a country had $100,000 per turn expense change that to $90,000 + 100 barrels or $80,000 + 200 barrels. The numbers would need tweaking but it would create a constant need for oil without really effecting to much else by demanding more volume especially when everyone is exploring.

Private market oil sell at $60. Buy at $?

In fact with less people playing food consumption could also be increased by the same mechanism.

These changes would make more volume of all goods go through the markets, basicslly it is putting some off the money that gets thrown out of the game into circulation and creating an economy for oil

teaspoon, i think your central point is solid

the consumption of cash and bushels is built into every turn, but oil is consumed only by choice

the amount of cash or bushels consumed each turn is a formula that includes population, mil units, acerage, tech modifiets, government modifiers and more ... and if you go red, the result is a minor catastrophy

a similar formula for oil consumption could be developed. i would suggest incorporating population, productive acres, and mil units at a minimum. i would suggest that the penaties for insufficient oil be somewhat different, instead degrading the readiness of mil units and reducing productivity of buildings in a manner analagous to having insufficient population. of course the reduction in productivity could feed into a traditional cash or bushel failure.

the formula for base oil consumption will be difficult and contentious, as will be the matter of a private market for oil and its associated prices and volume

and don't forget potential government modifiers and maybe a new 'energy' tech that reduces oil consumption

but even if i think it might be difficult to get agreement on the nuts and bolts, i think it is a great area to explore

thumbs up!

Yahoo something like 1-2% loss on all units, pop. goods,etc.

yea it'd make players who buy billion barrels of oil angry since it'd consume their precious oil and also would make wars bit more difficult.

I think this is going somewhere, I like it.

1st allow selling oil at priv on express, then burn oil to get more pm units, then this.

I don't agree with burning oil for units. I believe if they had chosen this option there would be no need for such a weird ass strategy to be introduced.

I agree, the Troops should burn on BEER!

those boots don't get shined without crude oil!

also those troops are not walking to the fight they are taking transports.

That was an inside joke for anyone that" s ever played ALLOUTWAR. You actually had to keep troops supplied with beer and cictizens with cigs,lol. If you ran out during turns you lost a ton load and ruin your set!

idea behind it was to boost up oiler strat but did it so or not is different thing.

I suppose if there was baseline oil consumption would have to start people with enough barrels to get them out of protection otherwise you would need to build rigs straight up.

Tanks and jets should use oil per turn. That would eliminate a lot of fluffin from tree huggers and make it harder for suiciders

Cpuld be fun

I think this is actually a solid balance, and one that wouldnt hurt the early game netting. I think if you are on 0 oil and you run a turn, your readiness should go down (think less tanks to defend)

50/50 indy/rigs suicider -_-

As opposed to 100% Indy that buys cheap oil in beginning of set suicider???

well 1st suicider makes his own oil.

assuming OOP there is any oil on market other then express private.

Still think this is a good idea 👍

I agree with this idea as well. The # of military units should consume oil.. The part perhaps which would be unfair is to C/I though. So maybe add oil consumption 0% to their stats?

Make it like every turn you lose 1% readiness if you dont have oil instead of gaining 3%? I dont think oil shortage should cause 3% of military to leave and your PCI to drop. some other mechanism.

But I do like the idea a lot

I actually think there should be a base oil consumption tied to land so it's universal.. could do it to pop but that effects cashers unfairly.

Use the $10/acre land expense or part thereof to make the markets more fluid. People use oil to live 😀

+1 Gerdler's readiness suggestion.

A better solution would be to have bots attack each other.

Boost readiness with oil is kindof an interesting idea.

Might not be enough to make all-xp buy oils tho.