Why does fascism get a bonus on bonus ?

It’s already overpowered , what gives ?

I think its better to nerf the oil destock. I agree that FFO is too strong but you are adressing it in the wrong end for a plethahora of reasons. Even cashers and techers oil destock so it's clearly that mechanism that should be looked on first.

If that happens and F is still too strong, which I doubt, then yea.

And also F is quite weak on servers where oil destock isn't a good destock method, weakening it further might not be ideal.

Make it cost 80 or 100 oil to get the same units as 40 does now. Or make it so it costs 40bbl/acre/turn to increase pm regen by 1000% and toggle that on/off. Either of those would balance it better than now, and the latter would make destocking artful again.

why dont you make a thread about that then, this thread was more like a question as to why the bonuses differ by government

I haven’t seen any defensible logic why bonuses shouldn’t all be the same.

If a government is fluff, make changes to the government bonuses, not the bonus bonuses , it makes no sense. It’s not even documented

It is documented just not in every right place, as with many other things in this game.

Point is that in say primary, where bonuses have a big impact, but the oil destock isnt great usually, if you nerf the bonuses then fascism will be useless, but if you nerf the oil destock fascism will be unaffected, since most fascist dont even oil destock there. So thats an effective way to nerf the FFO strat in team, alliance and FFA, in which it is OP, without affecting it elsewhere.

I have already posted my suggestion for the oil destock in great detail in a discussion thread started by Pang.

If you nerf bonuses on fascist with the logic that all bonuses need to be the same, the govt in itself too weak and needs a buff, and you still have the oil destock thats kinda destroying the artform that is destocking without it.

So either:
1. Remove fascist permanent bonus bonus.
2. Buff fascist govt
3. Nerf oil destock.

OR just:
1. Nerf oil destock.

My choice would be to do the one thing and see where we land in terms of govt balance and take it from there.

"I haven’t seen any defensible logic why bonuses shouldn’t all be the same."
The absurdity of that statement can best be shown as such:
'I haven’t seen any defensible logic why turns needed to attack shouldn’t all be the same.'
'I haven’t seen any defensible logic why market commissions shouldn’t all be the same.'
'I haven’t seen any defensible logic why BPT formula shouldn’t all be the same.'
'I haven’t seen any defensible logic why military strength shouldn’t all be the same.'
'I haven’t seen any defensible logic why tech effectiveness shouldn’t all be the same.'
'I haven’t seen any defensible logic why indy production shouldn’t all be the same.'

TLDR

Gerd nobody likes you. Literally nobody

All those statements are documented in gov bonus.

try to stay on topic. We’re talking about percent per bonus point in this thread

also, by your disingenuous stupid logic we should buff Dict because something something on solo servers, is that a fair assumption?

I just crushed your arguement and you are mad, I get that. Be sore somewhere else please.

And there are tons of stuff in this game that are not documented in the right place/at all, have conflicting documentation in different places, have been changed without the documentation changing or the documentation wasn't even right to begin with.

https://wiki.earthempires.com/index.php/Government_types