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sfbob

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Mar 5th 2020, 12:56:48

I must have lost over 1000 buildings to earthquakes this round of Team - it's just a stupid idea, not fun for the player and doesn't add anything to the game. Please get rid of it.

Marshal

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Mar 5th 2020, 14:22:39

you are just another on long line who wants to get rid off eqs and devs say nay.

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braden

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Mar 5th 2020, 14:59:27

I say increase earthquakes!

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KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 5th 2020, 17:52:26

Seems like towards the end of the set they are more frequently dropping my buildings :-/

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sfbob

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Mar 5th 2020, 23:12:08

FFS

An earthquake occurred destroying 362 buildings!

This is just a joke now I've lost nearly 1.5k buildings to stupid earthquakes

Jabroni1134

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Mar 5th 2020, 23:51:22

sfbob what is the "Luck" of your country?

I just ran 20000 turns and only had 3 earthquakes.

sfbob

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Mar 6th 2020, 0:21:21

I own 0% luck.

Is it worth investing in luck? How much. Tbh much as I find earthquakes incredibly annoying I think building costs or expenses is a better investment but I remain to be convinced.

sinistril

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Mar 6th 2020, 12:26:01

Originally posted by Jabroni1134:

sfbob what is the "Luck" of your country?

I just ran 20000 turns and only had 3 earthquakes.

Then you were either very lucky or the earthquake formula works differently when you run 20000 turns cashing on a 100 acre country or whatever it was. I am guessing every FFA player in history will verify that 20000 turns and only 3 earthquakes is incredibly unlikely. You can dig up an old EQ thread on FFA and look at the most active posters. I believe UncleFiat usually posts most of his earthquakes in there. But just consider that 3 earthquakes in 20000 turns is saying that you'll get approximately less than 1 earthquake per country per set.

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Edited By: sinistril on Mar 6th 2020, 12:30:13

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Marshal

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Mar 6th 2020, 15:08:06

2 eqs in 10 turns and loss of 250 buildings and no investments on luck bonus.

Gerdler

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Mar 6th 2020, 17:45:56

I dont think earthquakes add much to the game. I don't feel this anger towards them that some people seem to tho. I just think that since they dont matter much and some players might feel they are bad for their mood maybe they should be removed.

It adds a stochastic variance which some people might like. I dont agree at all with this. There are enough stochastics in when you play, who played before you, market times, booms, and players fickle nature. EQs are insignificant in this and rarely decide a war or an important endgame rank.

Second arguement for earthquakes, that resonates well with me, is that they slow down gameplay by making it less competetive to bulk turns. If EQs didnt exist mass explores, mass cashing etc would be way better. In this regard I would say EQs are good in all serves except FFA, where they are bad for the game since 16 countries are way too many.

sfbob

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Mar 6th 2020, 19:09:19

Gerdler, maybe if earthquakes had cost you half a million NW and counting in a single set you'd start to hate them too.

Molotov

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Mar 6th 2020, 19:20:15

They are nothing but frustrating. If they were offset by underwater volcanos forming new acres of island land maybe I could tolerate them. :P

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 6th 2020, 20:12:40

Half a million NW in solo servers can be the difference between 1st place and 1st loser....I agree.

Marshal

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Mar 6th 2020, 20:44:32

on that eq-thread at FFA players reported loss of thousands of buildings.

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 6th 2020, 21:03:42

Link it so sfbob can feel better :P

Marshal

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Mar 6th 2020, 22:33:39

well there are several threads about eqs.

https://www.earthempires.com/...k/earthquake-thread-42846

https://www.earthempires.com/...-and-missile-thread-43987

https://www.earthempires.com/...les-and-earthquakes-44304

https://www.earthempires.com/...all-talk/earthquake-46932

Gerdler

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Mar 7th 2020, 1:47:23

Originally posted by sfbob:

Gerdler, maybe if earthquakes had cost you half a million NW and counting in a single set you'd start to hate them too.

I've had several EQs costing me thousands of buildings and some costing millions of ending NW.

2018-08-01 11:46:01 HokageisVicnoonewasfooled $97,955,886 139,002 acres D LaF
2018-08-01 11:41:01 HokageisVicnoonewasfooled $94,080,259 141,408 acres D LaF

https://www.eestats.com/alliance/oldcountry/1597/28

That EQ cost me probably 4-5m NW on my personal NW record in 1a.

The reason I don't care is that others get them too, just as much as I do.

Edited By: Gerdler on Mar 7th 2020, 1:49:29

Zorp

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Mar 8th 2020, 23:00:41

I once had 20k acres lost to earthquakes over the span of a week, three earthquakes all over 6k towards the end of a set when I was over 300k acres. It cost me over $10B to rebuild iirc, which would have been well over 30M nw. I can't say I'd miss them if we got rid of them.

enshula

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Mar 9th 2020, 3:31:09

An earthquake occurred destroying 9 buildings!

fair and balanced, i just got this on a 100k+ country that was 95%+ built

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 9th 2020, 20:57:34

Originally posted by enshula:

An earthquake occurred destroying 9 buildings!

fair and balanced, i just got this on a 100k+ country that was 95%+ built

Same here, 12 acres for me in tourney LOL

enshula

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Mar 9th 2020, 21:19:24

i just got a 240 acre quake on a 200k country

enshula

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Mar 9th 2020, 21:22:59

An earthquake occurred destroying 1959 buildings!

big one, so they arnt all small

Edited By: enshula on Mar 9th 2020, 21:59:20
See Original Post

enshula

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Mar 18th 2020, 3:54:13

fun sequence

build up fully, get 4500 quake, build up 2500, get another 2500 quakes, still have 4500 unbuilt

total loss 1.6b and 30ish turns, maybe 10m nw lost

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 18th 2020, 18:15:34

Earthquakes are being brutal in tourney for me this set, at least one a day, two today :-/

Marshal

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Mar 18th 2020, 20:28:28

did you get any on last set?

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 18th 2020, 22:13:29

Yeah but not like now.

Getafix

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Mar 19th 2020, 20:57:13

You must learn Acceptance, grasshopper

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 20th 2020, 2:12:43

Hop, hop, hop....hop.

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 22nd 2020, 4:20:04

Consistently 1 per day, wow

sfbob

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Mar 31st 2020, 16:49:12

An earthquake occurred destroying 1 buildings!

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 31st 2020, 16:50:45

Was that a CS?

LOL

Marshal

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Mar 31st 2020, 19:26:05

oil rig is my guess.

sfbob

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Mar 31st 2020, 21:37:47

A farm

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 31st 2020, 21:47:49

Of all things....a farm .... LOL

braden

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Mar 31st 2020, 23:13:42

4391 buildings. Not me, thankfully.

cyref

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Apr 1st 2020, 13:22:57

Originally posted by braden:

4391 buildings. Not me, thankfully.

mine yesterday
today: An earthquake occurred destroying 4016 buildings!

Rebuilding from those two quakes cost approx $3.47bil and took 35 turns and about another $1.36bil in lost income (rebuilding instead of mashing the cash button)

With 9.4 days left in the set that really sux. At least ban quakes in the 2nd half of a set, then they won't have such random power over final rankings.

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Apr 1st 2020, 14:40:59

Yep down with Earthquakes! Its a pointless randomiser in the game.

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KoHeartsGPA

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Apr 1st 2020, 15:51:15

Originally posted by cyref:

Originally posted by braden:

4391 buildings. Not me, thankfully.

Holeee faaaacking shiiiiit, that really hurts :-(

braden

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Apr 2nd 2020, 1:28:15

3,089 Acres

That was me and I have half his fluffing acres also.

cyref

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Jun 9th 2020, 5:58:11

Originally posted by cyref:

Originally posted by braden:

4391 buildings. Not me, thankfully.

mine yesterday
today: An earthquake occurred destroying 4016 buildings!..
..With 9.4 days left in the set that really sux. At least ban quakes in the 2nd half of a set, then they won't have such random power over final rankings.

Here we go again.
An earthquake occurred destroying 3718 buildings!
The reset ends in 43.5 hours.
pffft when final ranks can be decided by an unfortunate roll of the dice in the last couple days of a two month set.

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KoHeartsGPA

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Jun 9th 2020, 11:56:55

I had one yesterday also for over 400 buildings, would have been bigger and of more impact if I didn't have gotten suicided almost all set long.

Requiem

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Jun 9th 2020, 16:00:48

Originally posted by cyref:

pffft when final ranks can be decided by an unfortunate roll of the dice in the last couple days of a two month set.

Even worse php random number generation isn’t even really random, technically speaking!

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Hessman123

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Aug 12th 2020, 3:16:51

Originally posted by sfbob:

I must have lost over 1000 buildings to earthquakes this round of Team - it's just a stupid idea, not fun for the player and doesn't add anything to the game. Please get rid of it.

Yes get rid of earthquakes

Requiem

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Aug 12th 2020, 15:25:29

It adds some uncertainty, which is why it was added. If the developers get rid of EQ, they would probably need to get rid of booms as well?

If everyone experiences earthquakes it should even out for everyone relatively speaking.

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Gerdler

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Aug 12th 2020, 22:19:05

Honestly, while I don't think they matter either in a positive or negative sense, I just think developers love to put some random crap in no matter what lol.