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starstalker4

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Jul 25th 2010, 18:00:16

at hour 0, A grabs 100 acres of which 60 are vacant

at hour 71, A grabs 100 acres some of which are vacant

at hour 73, A attempts to drop the original 60 vacant acres

the bug prevents him from doing so








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mrford Game profile

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Jul 25th 2010, 18:09:00

Wouldn't call that a bug

you reset the counter when you grabbed again. It would be insane to record and group and make a counter on every grab.
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starstalker4

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Jul 25th 2010, 18:33:24

resetting the counter in your words after every LG and including occupied land in the calculation means that the rule is actually A can not drop land within 72 hours of any attack even when the vacant land is demonstrably from the first attack

this amounts to a much longer than 72 hour ban and in the case of active players can amount to a set long ban on dropping land

even the most timid and fearful all explorer netter can not think that is a fair rule
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Jul 25th 2010, 18:42:10

i could name few tags leaders who say that is fair.
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starstalker4

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Jul 25th 2010, 18:56:21

is it fair in a clan game?

who knows who cares???

but in individual servers like express the rule is inappropriate
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Jul 25th 2010, 19:18:21

That is a bug,or should be considered and fixed.
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qzjul Game profile

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Jul 25th 2010, 19:18:31

mmm no that should work; you sure it was 72 hours later?
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starstalker4

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Jul 25th 2010, 20:05:40

yes sir
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starstalker4

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Jul 25th 2010, 20:17:06

take a look at this set of express

as a result of the rule
there is a ton of land out there
80% of the top half of the field has 10k acres at least

in the last 72 hours i have grabbed 27610 acres
but i am scraping by on just 12000 acres
so i have lost 15000 acres to hostilities

and i can not drop any of the land i grabbed oop

it has been a fun wild erratic set but if i could drop land...


Edited By: starstalker4 on Jul 25th 2010, 20:20:15
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qzjul Game profile

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Jul 26th 2010, 1:38:04

wait
so you say you want more land

but you want to drop your land to get it?

i don't get it?
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Jul 26th 2010, 8:12:49

I think, that no matter how much game admins think that "dropping land" is a bad strategy and encourages bad gameplay, that this new rule regarding no land drop for 72 hours is total pants.

why should someone be FORCED into this 72 hour thing that clans themselves created(for normal retal times) if you really want to discourage top feeding/suiciding/dropping land, sure.. put a limit on how long you have to keep the land, but i think something more like 4 hours or 8 hours(max) is a more suitable number of hours.. 72 is just rediculously long and is only fair gameplay to those "netters" who run with no defense b/c they know they(or a team mate) has 72 hours to easilly get the land back..

just seems rediculous.
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jdpanther42 Game profile

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Jul 26th 2010, 14:20:43

i thought the idea of the game was to get as much land as possible so why the hell do you want to drop land, waste of time playing if you do fluffing things like that if you ask me.
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Jul 26th 2010, 15:05:59

Well if people have strong objections to this method, we could definitely think about a "revert to previous owner" method.
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Jul 26th 2010, 19:00:12

rofl...
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starstalker4

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Jul 26th 2010, 19:25:16

izarcon

the admins have repeatedly said they do not understand the dropping land strategies and consequently have banned them

the rule is arbitrary and capricious

what about not being able to drop land if u have been ABed or BRed in some cases this rule could be a death sentence
i would think even a netter could grasp how it might be beneficial to drop land if u have just had 85% of your buildings blown up

in express the rule is essentially u can not drop land ever period

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Jul 26th 2010, 19:56:59

bleh. i'm saying i don't really think we need the rule at all, but if we're going to have it, even on regular servers(other than express) 72 hours is way too long.

8hours max would be much better. why put the option to drop acres in the game if you can't really use it?

if the purpose it to take land dropping out of earth.. then just do it.
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qzjul Game profile

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Jul 26th 2010, 21:04:57

well, the purpose is to stop land from leaving the server, especially in certain abusive situations. We do, however, recognize that there are a small number of circumstances in which it can be very useful to drop land.
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starstalker4

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Jul 29th 2010, 3:14:28

this purpose can be served by allowing raids that capture goods but not land
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Jul 30th 2010, 1:48:20

utopiaexpress?

lincoln

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Aug 1st 2010, 16:11:55

i was hoping this problem would be fixed by this set
not yet

can we get this reduced to eight hours this set?



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lincoln

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Aug 4th 2010, 19:24:56

this set?
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kemo Game profile

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Aug 4th 2010, 20:22:44

maybe if you talked in a 3rd name itll work ya know. 3rd times the charm
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starstalker4

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Aug 6th 2010, 13:05:12

this set?
if you can win a game without ever fighting a battle; it is not a war game

qzjul Game profile

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Aug 6th 2010, 17:50:36

we'll get to it i promise ;) it's not a bug atm technically, but we've got a few things on the go atm....
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