9 hours in to a war and not a single post about it on AT? Wow!


https://www.eestats.com/...mp;badside%5B%5D=Paradigm

Early observations...

So far Elders and Monsters doing more attacks than Stones despite Stones surpassing combined membership of both. Rage performance below par. PDM opting to continue with Imag and not save turns will be costly. Stilll early so as more warchats progress we may see better performances.

LAF looking very strong.

I was disappointed with the overall level of SOL’s war preparation. When I went up against SOL 3 years ago the standard was a lot higher.

This war was botched from the beginning :-P predicted it the minute we started organizing sides like this.

cant really blame rage they might have been planning to go to chats at different times for the other side makes sense they have activity problems

and monsters seemed to have 2 dedicated strats, i havnt seen their spyops but stones and monsters perhaps look the most different between individual and organised effort

as to how the wars looking it might turn into another few top countries vs many middle countries thing with the nw and turns difference

ssrp went higher on spal/missiles than lemm
while lemm went higher stock/production

with both sides knowing exactly when to set up for it was interesting to see the differing opinions

and markets been completely ruined by the war

There is still time for the other Alliances to get some hits in. For all we know it’s their time zones are different so best reserve complete judgement for now.

SOL has performed well so far but as stated above my only criticism is that your war prep was not to the standard I was expecting. For example, I was telling LAF to expect every country in SOL to be around 300 SPAL as I have seen in the past (see the SoF vs SOL wars of 2015-2016), but there are so many countries with low SPAL. You had lots of countries with below max SDI which is below par for a war alliance. And the stock levels were not up to par. Vamps and Dragon had the best countries in SOL with lower land but good stock, solid war techs and impervious SPAL.

My <200 spal murdered me...

It hasn't been 24 hours yet, it's too early to decide anything. Stones are usually slow to show up to chat. They will arrive within the next 36 hours and unload turns.

https://www.eestats.com/...ES&badside%5B%5D=RAGE
We had an untag kill from LaF

Who wants me to lead warchats, public opinion vote...go.

They don’t have 36 hours. If they don’t get active in the next 12 hours they will be almost too far behind to turn it around, unless the opposing side’s war effort completely collapses.

I bet weezy missin me right now..

we're gonna have to buy him to 'back to black' hair dye from all the stress

Considering laf started the war with like 500m more nw than you, i dont think there would have been a favorable way to build the war for sol unless it was the whole server vs laf, or some other insanely lopsided war.

If sol had better countries they should absolutely be competitive in this war with a huge numbers advantage, but still should be able to use that advantage to hang tough. You can say what you want about how the war was built, but tbh it looks to me like sol needs a 30 man advantage or fs and 10 man advantage to win a war with a competent tag.

Makes sense why you fs small tags every set.

To be fair tho. The amount of planning and coordination between laf and elders/mercs and monsters this set was unprecedented. I haven't seen the amount of activity, strategy advice, spals reached, general communication etc as in this war since maybe 2016 or 2017. A ton of work was put in on warbots and every facet of the war for our side for weeks. Laf would have been hard to beat regardless of who was on their side because theyd have had expectations of their allies and would have been in constant communication with them. Laf alone vs 60 people would have been a close war imo. But at the very least i think laf deserves a W for the amount of work they put in preparing.

wow Derrick complimenting laf. I just fell off the toilet in disbelief.

Dont get used to it. Fact is the 78 countries on SOL's side were about even in nw to the 38 countries in laf. Thats just some lopsided country building. Sol had 4 more members and 440m less nw than laf. I donno how they would want to build a war but they'd need a serious handicap to beat laf.

As always with LaF it's a team effort, we all put in a lot of time into this war. Just hope we wall good.

Why is iMag on that list?

That and that adds in two sol suicider kills from earlier in the set too. A lot wrong with that. Top warstats plus one kill for laf is more proper.

the game is too dependant on walling now

you have to assume a bunch of sol will wall usually

and the way the restart bonuses work with more for people who wall should be reversed

total hits right now are

lemm 4478
ssrp 4360

so very close but obviously hit per member is off by about 20% but hpk has come back a lot closer to be only 10% off

and ssrp has back in kills 14 v 11 with a lot of the difference in kill/hpk/totalhits relationship being due to higher nukes and em's sent

A bit more activity from Rage but still well behind where they should be. For their size Stones have not carried their weight and PDM may as well of not participated at all with a whopping 36 attacks. I feel for SOL.

That being said, SOL’s killruns have been very frustrating to watch. Very inefficient and slow breaking. War tactics being used are certainly not to the standard I witnessed in 2016. Bring back Mdevol.

Still a long way to go in the war.

Sov,

Slow breaking is due to country builds ;)
The targets we NEED to kill are broken at best 50% max mil rate for our guys. LaF just carried their side with massive country builds :-)

I could tell you that you are wrong, and keep in mind I know how many troops your breakers had at the times in question, but if I tell you how you are wrong then I am giving you information that you should not have as I am on the opposing side. Maybe one day.

Sov complementing mdevol and I's leadership FTW!

Lol. GREAT JAHB LI

We had some good wars back in 2015-2016. You guys were formidable :) I was expecting the same level from SOL this set but was sadly disappointed. You certainly have the hitrate though. Had some good kills today though so it’s certainly not over.

Bumping for warstats

SOLxLI||LaFxFUED||STONES||MONSTERS||RAGE||ElderSeX||Paradigm||Mercs||iMagNum

post this in eestats then sort by average land and the first 4 vs the last 4 likely
unless mercs has restarts probably, i think they were 3 or 4 to start

imag isnt really on a side i dont think but you can consider them on the laf/monsters/elders/mercs side if you want

then theres 1 solo tag guy you could consider on the other side if you wanted

where is teh NW graph

Live graph
https://evolution2025.com/...radigm,RAGE,SOLxLI,STONES

Current stats
https://imgur.com/a/axrTZTt

links dont wirk

you don't wirk.

im brokin

Made me laf :)

Imagine how good Stones could be if they ran real strats instead of those weird rainbows.

who is #476 and why do they have so many kills!

cant be stopped, dragon energy levels off the charts!

Lol@Derrick flaming. The only reason you won against SoL at all recently was due to you guys being carried. LaF built to fluff fluff up and that's exactly what they're doing, kudos to them.

nah, mercs carried everybody.

WE SOMEHOW POSTED ON THE WRONG THREAD!

Lol ikr. Btw boys. Hows that workimg with rage carrying you this set? Makes a huge difference amitite.

Sol has never beaten elders without the fs. In fact, i dont think sol has won a war without fs AND numbers advantage in the last 3 years. If my memory serves me well, they've lost wars in which they fsed about 4 times. Elders/mercs was over 800 HPD last set and you still calling rage a carry? You nuts bro.

I'll explain why we've won every war we have against sol despite sol continuously having numbers advantage and fs constantly.

It's a little thing called target selection. You guys came out of the gate hitting 15m nw countries and were killing restarts (up to 10 restart kills now?) by day two. With hit advantage and fs advantage last set, our tops should have been dust. But a bad selection fs including cheming and obviously online player, led to a 1 kill fs, and allies like rage were all we needed to get over the hump. Same this set. Massive hit total advantage for sol with brutal target selection.

You can say we were carried and id hope so. We have like 10 members and you have 40. But you've still been completely unable to kill us all for sets now. And i think you know who is beating you with target selection.

It only takes 6 million troops and 24 ops to break 30m raw troops with a 180% dict. As long as you guys keep avoiding those kills you're going to keep losing. You never even attempt those guys until we've thinned out you breakers enough to make it difficult. Set after set.

....you know. Unless you blindside us and i choose not to call in allies. Considering the size of sol, and the way sol is, they should AT LEAST be able to outclass 10 member war clans and netters on target selection.

Our little snowflake stays up at night worrying about how SOL feels in times of war. Just so you know, SOL considers this a game and we have fun playing it.
You really should stfu and let people think you are an idiot instead of posting your snowflake analysis and proving it.

It's not like i haven't seen your builds. You guys even now still have the breakers to hit the top of laf. And with the huge numbers advantage you could at least go for lems to slow breaking power. It's just bad target selection that most of laf's top went untouched. SO BAD

Snowflake, if we want your opinion, we will give it to you.

Lol. Takes two to tango bro. I seem to remember you having a difficult time not complaining about me constantly for like 2 years now. It really seems like you're enjoying yourself lolz

Holy cow...Marshal might have the most post, but Derrick by far leads in words! LOL

Hahaha. Writing amounts to about a 1/3rd of my income. I like to keep my chops up in casual/political conversational writing on AT.

The result is generally posts that are far too long to read, and I spend 30 minutes proofreading and editing to work on that editor tool as well.

It irritates members of elders as much as anyone else, but makes me seem important enough to blame everything on. Personally I've enjoyed the social experiment.

I only read about 1/3 of derrick's posts. Recently they've been shorter so I have read a bit more.

Pretty nice walling from SoL, but man these last two days, you guys got wrecked.

I have managed to make it to a total of 3 chats lol, maybe 4. I got to help break a target, which isn't good considering I've missed a couple weeks of playing time...oh well, I am having fun with the war and I can care less who I am fighting against or beside...

Lol. Nice breakin! Woof