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Elders

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May 8th 2016, 16:43:05

In defend of our fdp, EVO.

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May 8th 2016, 17:01:23

Correct.

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May 8th 2016, 17:13:50

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May 8th 2016, 18:08:25

I has popcorn for good reason now!
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May 8th 2016, 18:09:36

Which is better? Popcorn or copporn

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May 8th 2016, 18:36:49

I guess we should have just killed em all, thanks for notta elders

this mistake wont happen again.. and u wont change our retal policy doing this by the way, it stays the same

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May 8th 2016, 19:33:08

You're not used to doing FA on AT, are you?
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May 8th 2016, 19:36:20

Damnit. Will have to find another speedbump to run over.

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May 8th 2016, 20:29:01

LOL good luck trying to get over this one
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May 8th 2016, 21:18:31

Did stones declare war on evo?

Kat Game profile

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May 8th 2016, 21:34:19

*facepalm*

the issue was never the retal policy. >.<

It was the tag change policy! You cannot retal for a newly tagged country when that country received the hits as an untagged. This has been the rule since forever.

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May 8th 2016, 21:37:24

ok no popcorn :'(

guess will order pizza :)
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May 8th 2016, 21:49:04

Wahoo finally some action!!!

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May 9th 2016, 8:59:15

is this going to be even?

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Mortician

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May 9th 2016, 10:47:43

no it is not even,
they planned it from day one. We were netting ,and they were getting ready for war

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May 9th 2016, 11:24:45

Popcorn line was long, I'm here now /MJmeme
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May 9th 2016, 11:40:19

i really don't see how it's in defense,


it sounds more like offense to me
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Kat Game profile

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May 9th 2016, 12:29:06

Don't worry... it'll even out pretty quick. :P

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May 9th 2016, 12:53:46

Needs more drama.

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May 9th 2016, 13:01:29

Originally posted by Elders:
In defend of our fdp, EVO.


Originally posted by Forgotten:
i really don't see how it's in defense,


it sounds more like offense to me


It is not in defense. Unfortunately the leadership pool seems to be so shallow these days that we can't even get half decent excuses for wars anymore.

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May 9th 2016, 13:20:47

Why can't we kill just too kill? KILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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May 9th 2016, 14:29:17

KAT
the issue was never the retal policy. >.<

It was the tag change policy! You cannot retal for a newly tagged country when that country received the hits as an untagged. This has been the rule since forever.

you couldn't be more wrong kat, this issue was bout the retal they did after he tagged up...
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May/02/16 15:06:11 PS natallia (#425) (Stones) Warbeast (#200) (EvOchol) 1341 A 1909 A

Apr/30/16 14:30:16 PS Warbeast (#200) (EvOchol) natallia (#425) () 22 A 24 A

You are 36 minutes past 48 hours. So expect a retal

4.9 days ago

A brigade from Warbeast (#200) has invaded your lands!
Their forces broke through your defences!


They took:

539 Acres (670 Gained) 779 Buildings (250 Stolen) 2482 Bushels$6,227,124

ddd Game profile

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May 9th 2016, 14:30:27

but then if you would have taken the time to inquire to both sides you would have known that, silly girl

ddd Game profile

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May 9th 2016, 14:31:49

I hear azn is leading evo, really disappointed in your for not responding to my request for a contact to take care of this long before it even got to this point,,, but oh well, I knows u loves war so enjoy

Sov Game profile

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May 9th 2016, 14:36:17

Originally posted by ddd:
KAT
the issue was never the retal policy. >.<

It was the tag change policy! You cannot retal for a newly tagged country when that country received the hits as an untagged. This has been the rule since forever.

you couldn't be more wrong kat, this issue was bout the retal they did after he tagged up...
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May/02/16 15:06:11 PS natallia (#425) (Stones) Warbeast (#200) (EvOchol) 1341 A 1909 A

Apr/30/16 14:30:16 PS Warbeast (#200) (EvOchol) natallia (#425) () 22 A 24 A

You are 36 minutes past 48 hours. So expect a retal

4.9 days ago

A brigade from Warbeast (#200) has invaded your lands!
Their forces broke through your defences!


They took:

539 Acres (670 Gained) 779 Buildings (250 Stolen) 2482 Bushels$6,227,124



Unless I am reading it wrong you are incorrect there. If the country that was initially hit takes a retal then the tag is not an issue and this has always been the case. However if another country from the tag retals for a hit on an untagged country then that is cause for dispute.

Retal windows and policies are another issue altogether.

Edited By: Sov on May 9th 2016, 14:38:18

mrford Game profile

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May 9th 2016, 14:41:55

Originally posted by ddd:
I hear azn is leading evo, really disappointed in your for not responding to my request for a contact to take care of this long before it even got to this point,,, but oh well, I knows u loves war so enjoy


you asked for a contact after killing a country

not too sure how you expected that to play out
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ddd Game profile

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May 9th 2016, 14:44:31

another country did indeed take a retal, but on their retal of our tagged members retal, not on any hit while he was untagged as my post indicated, if that's wrong well then we will need to make a slight change to our retal policy to include that also I guess, because to me that is bs

in my opinion even untagged have rights to retal without getting retalled to death

like cripes we do have bots to farm

I think the problem is more like evo sucks big donkey doodoo and are land mongers not caring who they hurt so long as it doesn't bite back

perhaps they are not really caring if the game grows, seems that way now don't it.

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May 9th 2016, 15:24:32

Originally posted by ddd:
in my opinion even untagged have rights to retal without getting retalled to death


Stopped reading right there.
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May 9th 2016, 18:57:46

but but i was all x tree hugging,no prep at all

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May 9th 2016, 22:42:36

Evolution shouldn't exist anyways

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May 9th 2016, 23:20:26

Both parties trying to explain there side but neither party will see it. More war less talk.

Colo Game profile

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May 9th 2016, 23:42:55

Yeah, why exactly does an excuse have to be made up to fight? Neither party could see eye to eye. Seems as good as any reason to fight it out.

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May 10th 2016, 0:44:35

Azn is in elders btw
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May 10th 2016, 1:07:03

And EvO

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May 10th 2016, 2:01:53

he may also be in reservoir dogs
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Dissident Game profile

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May 10th 2016, 2:33:16

also... the grammar of this war dec was slightly cringeworthy.





i LOVE IT!!!

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May 10th 2016, 9:11:01

Originally posted by ddd:
another country did indeed take a retal, but on their retal of our tagged members retal, not on any hit while he was untagged as my post indicated, if that's wrong well then we will need to make a slight change to our retal policy to include that also I guess, because to me that is bs

in my opinion even untagged have rights to retal without getting retalled to death

like cripes we do have bots to farm

I think the problem is more like evo sucks big donkey doodoo and are land mongers not caring who they hurt so long as it doesn't bite back

perhaps they are not really caring if the game grows, seems that way now don't it.
You do not listen very well do you lol. Yes maybe an untagged has right to do a retal. However they did not take a retal as untag. They joined a clan than tried to take a retal, when in fact there was no retal due to that clan. That was in fact a LG and Evo had every right to make appropriate retal on Stones for that LG.

If that country had wanted to attempt a retal, it should have been done prior to switching tags. This is only partly why Stones suck, they dont even understand the basics.

Forgotten

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May 10th 2016, 9:14:39

....so EVO doesn't give untags ability to retal?

I don't get it.

Even if tagged up, that country deserves the ability to retal the hits that was on it.



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May 10th 2016, 17:38:45

Yea... but stones cannot retal on his behalf

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May 10th 2016, 18:55:30

W.. T.. F..

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Kat Game profile

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May 10th 2016, 22:02:57

That country DID take a retal. Evo DID RoR on that retal. That is NOT what is being questioned.

Stones LGed Evo ON TOP of the retal the untagged made. When Evo took the retal for the Stones hit, Stones RoR'ed as well, then killed the Evo country. THAT is what is being questioned. This is ALL of the landgrabs. I went back THREE DAYS BEFORE the untagged joined Stones. There is no arguing the cold hard facts. Stones made a mistake. End of story.

2016-04-30 14:30 Warbeast (#200) [EvOchol] natallia (#425) PS 22A (+2A)
(+11 more SSs over 3 days... didn't want to spam too much)

2016-05-02 15:06 natallia (#425) [Stones] Warbeast (#200) [EvOchol] PS 1,341A (+568A)
(Untagged joins stones then takes a retal within the 72 hour window. well within rights)

2016-05-03 02:25 Nick Knack Patti Rack (#50) [Stones] Warbeast (#200) [EvOchol] PS 1,084A (+702A)
(Stones retals FOR the newly tagged ON TOP of the retal from the newly tagged. NO. Cannot do this.)

2016-05-04 07:14 Warbeast (#200) [EvOchol] Nick Knack Patti Rack (#50) [Stones] PS 2,177A (+875A)
(Evo retals 1:1 for the Stones hit as if it were an isolated hit... since Stones can't retal for an untagged)

2016-05-04 07:21 Warbeast (#200) [EvOchol] natallia (#425) [Stones] PS 539A (+131A)
(Evo RoR's the untagged who is STILL NOT technically a part of Stones since it hasn't been tagged 72 hours...)

2016-05-04 22:58 Shocking (#301) [Stones] Warbeast (#200) [EvOchol] PS 2,915A (+1,235A)
2016-05-04 13:30 (#69) [Stones] Warbeast (#200) [EvOchol] PS 3,448A (+1,950A)
(Stones RoR's massively)

2016-05-05 06:51 Warbeast (#200) [EvOchol] (#69) [Stones] PS 1,829A (+668A)
(Evo takes a valid retal for the RoRs)

2016-05-05 09:52 (#69) [Stones] Warbeast (#200) [EvOchol] PS 2,882A (+1,543A)
(Stones takes one last RoR before killing the Evo country.)

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May 10th 2016, 22:13:36

Originally posted by Mortician:
no it is not even,
they planned it from day one. We were netting ,and they were getting ready for war


Youre right and youre wrong. On the one hand we war every set... so of course we were ready for war.

The target, on the otherhand, was decided the day you killed an evo player.

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May 10th 2016, 22:36:39

If it's any consolation, I personally asked for a neting set. I wanted to show off my mad neting skills.

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May 10th 2016, 22:56:33

This thread made me late for work
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May 11th 2016, 2:31:09

Originally posted by Colo:
If it's any consolation, I personally asked for a neting set. I wanted to show off my mad neting skills.
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May 11th 2016, 3:01:39

[quote poster=Kat; 39661; 758858]

2016-05-04 07:21 Warbeast (#200) [EvOchol] natallia (#425) [Stones] PS 539A (+131A)
(Evo RoR's the untagged who is STILL NOT technically a part of Stones since it hasn't been tagged 72 hours...)

[/quote]

WAIT WAIT WAIT, it's tagged Stones and it can't count as part of Stones? What is this? Team Server?

Also, EVO RoR'ed, period. Stones are defending it's own member.

EVO is in the wrong here, and so is Elders for 'defending' EVO.

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May 11th 2016, 4:20:06

So youre saying that stones was in the right to kill an evo country?

Because thats what this war is about.

Dissident Game profile

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May 11th 2016, 4:29:05

Also... I looked for the Stones retal policy and was unable to find it. Could someone please give me a copy to peruse or just... make it public?

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May 11th 2016, 5:19:34

they killed a country, that started the war. use whatever other bullfluff reasoning you like. it is what it is.
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May 12th 2016, 4:36:05

another pathetic war effort on the part of stones

just maybe stones should try hugging some trees since their fully war prepped countries are a laughing stock when it comes to warring


http://earthgraphs.com/...stones&warreport=Show

Edited By: Over The Hill on May 12th 2016, 4:39:55
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