Rank Country Land Networth Special
1 Cessation From Aloft (#19) 31,051 $36,810,459 CG
2 Flunitrazepam (#26) 20,659 $31,501,840 HG
3 MakeMyDay (#64) 14,619 $25,503,609 RG
4 Crimson (#2) 21,238 $22,142,074 CG
5 NastyMUF (#52) 14,854 $20,304,000 CG
6 Cash Cash Baby (#28) 12,746 $20,091,811 HG
7 Udinese (#48) 16,270 $18,870,031 CG
8 BiBiGoN (#53) 18,820 $17,982,570 CG
9 Defiant (#101) 10,317 $17,602,864 RG
10 Mr Lucky (#47) 18,500 $16,713,661 C

11 I R WoG SuperFly (#4) 15,355 $15,492,379 CG
12 Petrous (#15) 15,333 $14,690,625 T
13 JZR (#7) 16,576 $14,526,683 R
14 Junkface (#72) 11,044 $14,240,422 RG
15 shtorm (#55) 17,467 $14,063,395 C
16 Shipwreck Cove (#90) 10,925 $13,834,546 DG
17 Flaptronic (#29) 9318 $13,233,620 H
18 Nixons Richard (#10) 12,215 $13,202,004 RG
19 17 Dollar Cheating Oil (#5) 7523 $12,765,429 RG
20 Clover (#68) 12,936 $12,435,296 CG

21 Klastovia (#17) 12,879 $12,422,982 HG
22 General Admission (#108) 14,241 $12,179,434 RG
23 Bum Toucher (#57) 12,532 $11,999,073 DG
24 GWCCMOPCBGTOCY (#34) 18,634 $11,187,864 C
25 Kyoto Now (#71) 7803 $10,333,957 RG

Congrats All !!!

I dunno about working in Antarctica, but it is definitely on my bucket list of places to go to.

well all i would say to that Atryn is the article is not doing Harvard any favors in presenting their study in such a biased and propaganda filled manner. Unles this is how Harvard wanted their study to be interpreted, in which case the study was just a hit piece for interested parties.

Although I must say most of the media these days has a slant one way or another, professional journalism of simply presenting the facts is very rare these days.

mFrost

btw.. the flag they removed is not the official confederate flag ;)

The flag they removed was the Rebel Flag or Dixie Flag ... it was used on the battle field to differentiate friend vs. foe. It became popular after the civil war...

heck the white house was not even flying the flag at half mast for the marines until a few days ago.

I see it as biased based on the tone in which the data is presented For example

"and shows not only that so-called “defensive gun use” (DGU) rarely protects a person from harm,"
was it necessary to use the phrase "so-called" in a scientific paper... or are they using this phrase to shape perception?

and for further perception shaping here is a little gem thrown in to attack the pro-gun advocates as no longer having a solid case to base their arguments upon.

"pro-gun advocates have been forced to argue" <-- says who??

"In response to GVA data, pro-gun advocates have been forced to argue that the reason researchers can barely find .064 percent of the 2.5 million DGUs a year claimed by Kleck and Gertz is because virtually nobody reports their defensive gun use to the police. This argument is problematic. For starters, it would seem to imply that the vast majority of people using guns in self-defense are irresponsible citizens who use their firearm to ward off an attempted crime, and then, perhaps uncertain about the legality of their action, are leery of interacting with the police. It would also imply that while these citizens ostensibly stopped a crime serious enough to justify brandishing a firearm, they aren’t at all concerned about informing the police about a criminal who remains on the street."

I like how the above is worded to imply or shape the perception of how if pro gun advocates are correct then the majority of those using a gun in self-defense are unconcerned and irresponsible citizens brandishing their weapons illegally... i.e. to account for the unreported cases.

and with glaring propaganda examples attempting to shape the perception of how this data should be interpreted, you expect me to accept this as a valid piece of science? Take the propaganda out and then we may have something to discuss regarding the numbers and what they represent.

--------------------------------------------

A study such as this one is open to interpretation, and highly subjective in how it is interpreted. For example I can take this data and spin it in such a way as to demonstrated how lowering gun ownership would have no effect in stopping crimes from occurring. Therefore banning or attempting to take guns away from the general public would not make the general public any safer. If your statistics are correct and gun ownership has no affect on the overall safety of a person then taking their gun(s) away will not improve their situation either way. Why spend money in confiscating guns if it has no impact on the general safety of the public. The money should be spent on programs where the impact of said expenditure can be shown to improve public safety in some quantifiable manner.

@Atryn, I may jump the gun a bit however it is precisely these types of studies that are cited when the politicos decide to convince the masses of their position. I equate this hit piece to the studies regarding the safety of tobacco. Those scientific papers also had nothing in them in regards to how policies or decision should be derived from the work. Yet cigarettes remained safe for close to 30 years per the science and statistical studies.

A paper like this is a wet dream for those advocating the confiscation of firearms. The reason being it directly attacks one of the foundational pillars upon which the right for gun ownership is fought for.

Just because a paper says there is no difference, does not mean this is a reality at the street level. We should not negate nor discount the human lives saved thru self defense actions involving firearms. Each situation is different and the levels of force needed in each also differ. Now this paper may very well like to point out there is no significant difference in the outcome of a crime. However for those who saved themselves, a loved one, or their property I am quite certain the outcome had a major significance.

Unfortunately the life of someone saved or killed cannot truly be measured as a percentage of significance. What is one life worth these days, for your paper it is just a tic mark a value between 0 and 1. It is callous and akin to saying the outcome for some woman on the verge of being raped would be the same whether or not she defends herself.

As biased as this article was in its attempt to support gun control and/or gun bans, by selecting one argument to disprove, it missed the point completely.

The 2nd ammendment is not there to protect me from some gangster in the hood. It is there to protect me from some runaway tyrannical government. Specifically a government that would take my rights away and make it impossible to defend myself from its imposed laws.

Other countries have tried this taking away of the guns from citizens, and the murder rates did not drop. People just got a little more creative in their methods of bring about the demise of another person.

My favorite argument, in this regard came from Archie Bunker..."would it make you feel better if we pushed them off the roof" Heck in china they had a mass murder where the person used a knife. In other parts of the world they use homemade bombs to kill and injure hundreds at a time. Those prediposed to harm others will do so regardless of laws or barriers placed in front of them. Just being pragmatic, and if being armed with the ability to stop just one of these event, i would think it worth it.

Think of it this way would you prefer someone shoots some lunatic threatening your child's life with whatever weapon they choose or come back to you and say sorry for the loss of your child. Would it have been worth it to you to have an armed citizen present if they saved your child or other family member?

Only question i have is why verizon, of all the rip off artists out there :)

If you bought the phone outright avoid any long term contract.
1-2 gb is low too - especially if there is any kind of media file(s) being accessed.
Just a warning because my experience with Verizon is they love to surcharge.

You are better off going unlimitted and let them trottle the speed after x amount of GBs.

A romp in the park, picking flowers, and feeding the birds? The missiles must be for energy production ... they need something to install windmills on...

/me puts head back in sand.

Rank Country Land Networth Special
1 violent bunnies (#12) 16,704 $20,234,020 FG
2 Missed the end of set AGAIN (#57) 20,232 $19,518,322 CG
3 the Temple (#43) 16,178 $19,429,716 RG
4 Crimson (#13) 19,753 $17,319,915 CG
5 Dont touch this (#44) 15,752 $17,232,350 CG
6 BiBiGoN (#54) 19,497 $17,004,714 CG
7 mFrost (#74) 16,112 $16,594,526 DG
8 BYOB (#89) 9304 $13,165,041 DG
9 Some Guy (#96) 10,281 $12,724,736 HG
10 shtorm (#117) 17,903 $12,228,301 C

11 Junkface (#112) 14,050 $12,224,432 RG
12 aSSaPPLe (#53) 10,550 $11,728,789 DG
13 Bandar Tun Razak (#29) 6125 $11,418,334 DG
14 JoeZ (#25) 12,394 $11,240,410 R
15 Artichoke N Avacado Dip (#36) 10,507 $11,126,417 DG
16 I R WoG SuperFly (#10) 16,623 $10,896,602 CG
17 Klastovia (#20) 16,589 $10,793,785 I
18 MakeMyDay (#86) 10,511 $10,766,401 TG
19 17 Dollar Cheating Oil (#3) 14,662 $10,460,754 CG
20 General Admission (#100) 14,863 $10,165,859 RG

21 Torino (#56) 19,742 $9,949,293 CG
22 Hash (#5) 10,649 $9,827,572 CG
23 1 (#91) 14,215 $9,339,448 CG
24 Slacker (#99) 9413 $9,335,657 H
25 Capital T (#24) 15,281 $9,102,444 FG

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lol, I completely screwed up my jump it should have landed at 17.1 ... oh well's

congrats all ... nice to see a Fascist/Farmer win a reset.

mFrost

"You People" ???...

what pray tell do you mean by this?

you consider us inferior?

looking down upon the common folk?

/me steals Frybert's beer... now you may call me "You People"


mFrost

What the heck... Not even a coffee? I would think a nice dinner and a movie at least, perhaps a nitecap, and some soothing pillow talk, before being ordered to kill

... A pretty please would have been nice. I am not just some half crazed killer you can order about to fulfill your whims and fantasies by.

From a professional standpoint the event will cost 15 million, to be paid as, half up front, half upon completion. Please deposit funds into the Banca Monte Dei Paschi Monaco swift: MONTMCMXXX account to confirm contract.

mFrost

o my lord... how are we going to retal

who was that... who would do such a thing?

so many sleeping, all snuggly, and quiet, how cute ... they all look like little angels...


WAKE THE fluff UP, BANGS CYMBALS, THROWS BUCKETS OF WATER

tip toes out of forum

Hi Jayr as sweet as this may be for me I seriously doubt PANLV or even LAF leadership would allow for the cross server FA to occur.

BTW ... I think we should offset this and I just get my land back next reset.

if this is acceptable then we can close the matter now, and I will contact the offending party next reset to make arrangements.

mFrost

I just took care of the the last 2 hits... we still have the previous 4 open ;)

--- in game or PM me when ready.

mFrost

give them a big hug for me ...

we could start with...

let them know:
Someday, and that day may never come, I'll call upon them to do a service for me. But until that day, accept this gesture of forgiveness as a gift from me to them...

j/k

anywho we need to wrap this up, in some mutually beneficial manner.

I know ... talk to me ;) --- I misses you :D

just send me a PM...

Now I was working with someone in Dino's over a previous typo, and it seems you all do love my countries

... but I must say it is the wrong kind of luv.

Please have an FA contact me as soon as possible... I almost retalled the hits before seeing it was most likely a typo.

in the mean time I will be in my quiet corner, chewing on the leash ;)

mFrost

lol, I thought you had it too..

threatening an old wardog rarely ever works ... just shakes head ...

Rank Country Land Networth Special
1 Chasing the Dragon (#43) 24,186 $37,529,439 CG
2 Westworld (#54) 18,396 $31,998,339 RG
3 Sao Paulo (#85) 26,706 $28,957,286 C
4 Farmer (#100) 25,944 $26,819,195 IG
5 BiBiGoN (#56) 14,772 $23,101,140 DG
6 MakeMyDay (#99) 13,003 $20,094,134 RG
7 the Temple (#46) 15,781 $18,601,912 RG
8 Crimson (#8) 16,017 $18,529,110 HG
9 I R WoG SuperFly (#23) 17,796 $17,020,551 CG
10 dOgMiLk (#38) 17,785 $16,742,667 RG

11 BeE Po bEe po BEe pO (#48) 17,754 $15,229,750 DG
12 Capital T (#39) 14,151 $14,983,843 RG
13 mFrost (#40) 13,308 $14,125,520 DG
14 maltandhopsandyeast (#12) 15,805 $13,348,006 FG
15 1A2EC4us (#24) 11,445 $12,715,944 DG
16 xxxpress (#60) 10,645 $12,320,325 R
17 Klastovia (#9) 12,051 $12,193,719 DG
18 STARBREAKER (#91) 15,491 $11,983,562 DG
19 Scarlet (#103) 16,194 $11,750,392 R
20 Skulls of Dominion (#112) 10,025 $11,697,558 RG

21 Sockdolager (#14) 14,422 $10,047,950 T
22 SqueeD0 (#57) 14,082 $9,825,989 CG
23 my handicap is i have a life (#30) 11,063 $9,731,250 DG
24 Trump For Pres FTW (#116) 11,601 $9,579,879 TG
25 Flaptronic (#61) 9281 $9,502,439 H

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congrats All !!

I had a late set retal, that hurt a bit, but it came out ok i guess.

well there goes Sesame Street... they may be claiming to teach history, but we all know what traitors to the Union they really are ...

[quote poster=enshula; 36688; 667028]Is the US communist party the one and done type?

from wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/...281989.E2.80.93present.29

As of 2014 the platform of the party sets forth the following principles for its operations:

a party of the working class, part of the class but its most advanced segment,
a party of socialism,
based on Marxism-Leninism,
engaged in proletarian internationalism, and
organized on the principle of democratic centralism.[2]
[/quote]

in as much as there is a smaller elite class making decisions for a larger group, regardless of how it represents itself, in the long run it not only becomes corruptible, but more to the point self serving.

lol, that would be cool, perhaps a bit closer to what the founding fathers of this country had in mind when they asked for people to "Serve their Country" vs. the country serving them.


Paradise Lost, Ratification Found -- The-missing-13th-amendment
http://www.let.rug.nl/...st-ratification-found.php

omg... going thru these comments was just painful ...

this PC bullfluff needs to seriously go away,

I understand people getting upset when the Mexican flag is flown higher than the American flag over a city hall in Cali. When school kids are told to wear their t-shirts depicting the American flag inside out, because it offends Mexican students on the cinco de mayo.

In general I do not care if someone is flying a flag of their choice to represent their heritage. I do have an issue when people are told they cannot fly the American Flag. When city hall decides another flag should be flown above the American flag, I try to remember exactly when said country won the war to claim this privilege.

As for the confederate flag, I see it very much like someone flying a flag from their home country or state flag. Considering the political BS the south has gone thru over the past 100+ years I would say letting them fly the confederate flag is the least of our worries. Pulling it down just adds fuel to the flames, it is a symbol of remembrance. Bury it if you must, but then it just goes underground where it is so much more dangerous. Tell people they are not free to express themselves as they wish. They will form secret groups where they will express themselves away from those who would take their rights away. Given the right circumstances these groups have a tendency of seizing power, especially if conditions become oppressive.

The General Lee, represented the ability to stay one step ahead of the law. Economically depressing entire regions of a country, will lead to people doing what they have to do, to put food on the table. Some turn to what they know, others do it out of tradition, or environmental culture. From this perspective the confederate flag was a symbol for not recognizing imposed authority. It is imposed until a mutual respect of some sort is reached. Further transgressions is definitely not a way of achieving this mutual respect ;)

Whatever happened to being pragmatic and using a bit of common sense. what is next GI Joe because it represents the the violence of the American military ??? After all it is a much too positive and patriotic image of America, and Americans need to be ashamed of being American... It is the only PC thing to do...

mFrost

this is sort of like asking what type of fire would you prefer being thrown into

Coal
Wood
Mixed

is there really an advantage, considering the end result?

now if I added a marijuana fire to the mix, then perhaps some would consider it a relaxing way to go.

as for political parties have not found one yet that would match up with a marijuana fire... :D

Congrats NATA... now i need go look up #41...

Congrats All!! --- just could not get it together this reset :p

Rank Country Land Networth Special
1 Westworld (#91) 20,662 $30,487,088 RG
2 River Plate (#90) 21,866 $29,680,679 CG
3 BYOB (#58) 21,623 $26,445,500 HG
4 MakeMyDay (#95) 14,621 $25,050,198 RG
5 keyser soze (#11) 19,651 $24,660,728 HG
6 I R WoG SuperFly (#14) 21,025 $22,123,948 CG
7 snipeR (#10) 15,057 $22,061,912 DG
8 I will get top 50 (#50) 19,568 $19,795,003 CG
9 Ti annichilisco (#117) 16,425 $17,964,857 CG
10 NATA (#3) 19,256 $17,318,676 CG

11 BeE Po bEe po BEe pO (#42) 17,177 $16,939,919 CG
12 Crimson (#40) 15,037 $16,077,642 CG
13 Son of Coul (#131) 14,124 $16,003,585 R
14 Red Rocket (#54) 9118 $15,752,861 IG
15 Kapilavastu (#16) 14,305 $15,680,846 C
16 landfarm (#4) 9663 $15,172,415 HG
17 jland (#19) 10,094 $14,609,353 RG
18 ashetonia (#81) 16,135 $14,608,798 C
19 Petrograd (#70) 17,044 $14,460,186 CG
20 mFrost (#98) 14,004 $12,726,591 DG

21 preflop (#26) 15,968 $12,671,730 DG
22 C R O A T I A (#38) 21,373 $12,597,804 TG
23 Orderly Pandemonium (#126) 16,078 $12,261,315 RG
24 RTZT (#29) 12,398 $12,253,920 C
25 Ronland (#79) 13,483 $12,245,796 DG

I only top feed if its a retal... other than that I figure it is just not worth the aggravation it causes.

sorry to hear that vic... and congrats to NATA on a T10

the numbers may or may not be useful to you, I figure they may be useful to someone. For those it is useful, you are welcome, for those where the numbers are not useful, then they probably were not meant for you anyway ;)

@celphi

if you keep your biz res maxed lets say 500k each ... you can buy another 450K of tech split between biz res and sell the 450K points in one turn at the end. Because your tech is already at max you literally would lose minimal income on your last 3-4 turns...

mFrost

@ celphi, for the most part with prices the way they are you would be correct, however if at the end of reset i see bushels at 60 and tech selling at $1100 I'm buyin tech , because $ recognize this is similar to buying bushels @ $40

with 500 mil to spend

500,000,000 / 60 = 8,333,333 bushels * 35 = 291,666,655 converted on the PM
500,000,000 / 1100 = 454,545 points

now the upside of express is you can sell 44.9% of tech on hand and goods hit the market in 45 minutes. So in 4 auto sales or last 3 hours of the reset I cans sell 90% of my tech on hand:
On Hand -- Sell
454,545 -- 204,541
250,004 -- 112,499
137,505 -- 61,876
75,629 -- 34,032
Total: 412,948 sold * 1000 = 412,948,000 - 291,666,655 = 121,281,345

I think the 120 mil extra makes it worth my time to buy tech

Caveat:
... Unless of course my country needs this tech to produce 10 mil per turn for the last 45 turns of the reset. i.e. selling the tech would yield less than just taking normal turns. but then a country big enough to pull that off probably spent most of their income on tech anyway...

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To answer Riddler's question more accurately, from a production standpoint

where 1000 acres produce 12,500 bushels as a farmer or as a techer 300 points of tech it would look like this for equivalency:

35 -- 1458
40 -- 1667
45 -- 1875
50 -- 2080 -- if bushels are selling at $50 then tech should sell for $2080 minimum, otherwise farmers are making more per turn
55 -- 2292
60 -- 2500
65 -- 2708
70 -- 2917
75 -- 3125 -- if tech is selling @ or above $3125, farmers would need to sell food @ 75 to keep up
80 -- 3333
85 -- 3542
90 -- 3750
95 -- 3958
100 -- 4167

so looking at the above and the current express market where tech is currently selling at $3100 and food is @ $37, techers are making double the income of a farmer for every turn taken... of course this could flip around at end of reset where food is at $60 and tech is at $1,250, then farmers are making double.

you are correct... basically you are making less per unit of tech than a farmer selling at $50 if you are selling your tech at or under $1429

it works the other way too if the lowest unit of tech is priced at 1429, then techers are making more per unit unless food is selling at or above $50.

this is assuming a production of 1000 bushels for every 35 points of tech

1000 units * $35 = $35,000 .. bushels
35 units * $1000 = $35,000 .. tech

----
1000 units * $50 = $50,000
35 units * 1429 = $50,015

mFrost

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thanx DrunK you are correct this more about what to stock based on price v destock price.

@ celphi ... you are not taking into account the benefit tech adds to the country throughout the reset, especially if it is income or production type tech. when de-stocking the end of reset turns may or may not be taken depending on just how beneficial those are.

5-6 turns of selling to the auto-buy pretty much dumps most of the tech, granted you have to be active enough to make the 5 or so sales on the last day. in most cases you should be dumping tech and converting it anyway at the end of the reset.

1000 points of tech = 2000 points of networth on the auto buy = $1,000,000 as a non MBR tanks @ 484 = 2066 tanks *2 = 4,132 networth or an extra 2,132 points of net for every 1000 points of tech sold. .. this just gets better for DMBR and TMBR. what are you using this tech for at the end of reset?

mFrost

these are as a Demo:
on express the tech auto buy = 1000 -- PM = 35 for bushels

the table below simply shows equivalency in converting stock at end of reset

Bushels Tech
35 1000
40 1143
45 1286
50 1429
55 1571 -- if bushels are selling at $55 and you can buy tech @ or under $1,571 buy tech
60 1714
65 1857
70 2000
75 2143
80 2286
85 2429
90 2571
95 2714
100 2857

for other servers where the auto buy is set @ 500

Bushels Tech
35 500
40 571
45 643
50 714
55 786
60 857
65 929 -- bushels are at 65 and tech is available @ or under $929 buy tech
70 1000
75 1071
80 1143
85 1214
90 1286
95 1357
100 1429

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mFrost

congrats vic ... now you need to see just how big of a record you can set ;)

thanx -- Frybert ... it was a nice surprise...

:p --- here is your top 30

rank country # land networth special nw/land
1 old pro 17 29,626 acres $38,422,856 CG 1297
2 IRA 84 19,287 acres $31,845,676 RG 1651
3 EE Sniper 20 12,772 acres $29,537,923 DG 2313
4 MakeMyDay 78 14,650 acres $25,926,251 RG 1770
5 Queens Park Rangers 76 17,910 acres $19,890,021 CG 1111
6 C R O A T I A 8 24,565 acres $19,693,305 HG 802
7 GLHF 83 25,930 acres $18,436,165 IG 711
8 Ronland 95 12,365 acres $15,595,545 DG 1261
9 BeE Po bEe po BEe pO 32 16,415 acres $14,695,811 CG 895
10 mFrost 63 11,766 acres $14,454,462 DG 1228
11 NATA 4 23,788 acres $14,418,443 CG 606
12 I R WoG SuperFly 33 18,663 acres $14,369,275 CG 770
13 Now 71 14,920 acres $14,247,135 CG 955
14 Petoria 54 15,577 acres $13,514,182 RG 868
15 asheburg 62 13,657 acres $13,420,910 CG 983
16 Flaptronic 47 11,908 acres $13,333,153 H 1120
17 Rick James B 23 6,162 acres $13,133,356 DG 2131
18 Red Rocket 13 11,213 acres $12,883,558 DG 1149
19 Anewone 60 17,451 acres $12,086,145 CG 693
20 Bandar Tun Razak 26 6,876 acres $12,007,647 DG 1746
21 DeathFromAbove 3 10,851 acres $11,797,579 C 1087
22 subdivisions 38 12,727 acres $11,488,103 FG 903
23 BaDonkaDonks 21 7,299 acres $11,103,195 DG 1521
24 the Temple 11 6,402 acres $10,683,427 CG 1669
25 BiBiGoN 50 2,682 acres $10,028,040 HG 3739
26 sngfsfty 6 14,210 acres $9,538,252 F 671
27 NOMNOMNOM 46 14,805 acres $8,819,377 C 596
28 Paradise 55 14,758 acres $8,416,007 DG 570
29 Villain I have done thy mother 19 11,257 acres $8,064,943 TG 716
30 asdas 1 21,197 acres $7,648,141 RG 361

Rank Country Land Networth Special
1 old pro (#17) 29,626 $38,422,856 CG
2 IRA (#84) 19,287 $31,845,676 RG
3 EE Sniper (#20) 12,772 $29,537,923 DG
4 MakeMyDay (#78) 14,650 $25,926,251 RG
5 Queens Park Rangers (#76) 17,910 $19,890,021 CG
6 C R O A T I A (#8) 24,565 $19,693,305 HG
7 GLHF (#83) 25,930 $18,436,165 IG
8 Ronland (#95) 12,365 $15,595,545 DG
9 BeE Po bEe po BEe pO (#32) 16,415 $14,695,811 CG
10 mFrost (#63) 11,766 $14,454,462 DG

11 NATA (#4) 23,788 $14,418,443 CG
12 I R WoG SuperFly (#33) 18,663 $14,369,275 CG
13 Now (#71) 14,920 $14,247,135 CG
14 Petoria (#54) 15,577 $13,514,182 RG
15 asheburg (#62) 13,657 $13,420,910 CG
16 Flaptronic (#47) 11,908 $13,333,153 H
17 Rick James B (#23) 6162 $13,133,356 DG
18 Red Rocket (#13) 11,213 $12,883,558 DG
19 Anewone (#60) 17,451 $12,086,145 CG
20 Bandar Tun Razak (#26) 6876 $12,007,647 DG

21 DeathFromAbove (#3) 10,851 $11,797,579 C
22 subdivisions (#38) 12,727 $11,488,103 FG
23 BaDonkaDonks (#21) 7299 $11,103,195 DG
24 the Temple (#11) 6402 $10,683,427 CG
25 BiBiGoN (#50) 2682 $10,028,040 HG

congrats all !!

interesting... the culture i come from for hundreds of years basically made it possible for a man to kill another man, if it was in defense of their own livelihood. For example if someone stole my tools or vehicle I rely on to earn a living, I would then have a right to kill the offending party. -- Morality rules today basically say I can no longer do this...

what is it we really consider to be moral or just

i would say it is more about laws being adjusted to match the shift in cultural agreements. what is legal today can very well be illegal tomorrow, especially if it would allow for open competition and a path wealth. Take spam as an example, and then think back to how the eBays and Amazons got to where they are. The path they took is now illegal ...

Rank Country Land Networth Special
1 not much time to play (#23) 34,627 $40,128,922 CG
2 Byzantium (#93) 19,701 $34,456,331 RG
3 Langrisser (#18) 28,229 $31,734,373 CG
4 Panathinaikos (#48) 25,066 $30,654,388 CG
5 DeathFromAbove (#2) 25,310 $29,951,098 HG
6 BeE Po bEe po BEe pO (#35) 18,097 $25,900,000 HG
7 GLHF (#100) 20,861 $23,653,848 IG
8 I R WoG SuperFly (#14) 18,034 $20,076,335 CG
9 First Tier (#37) 13,763 $17,959,890 RG
10 BaDonkaDonks (#114) 5883 $16,893,409 DG

11 mFrost (#76) 11,800 $16,615,365 DG
12 NATA (#94) 25,726 $16,100,934 CG
13 MakeMyDay (#99) 15,298 $15,861,319 RG
14 Ronland (#82) 13,882 $15,751,376 DG
15 LaFing at you (#101) 13,183 $14,868,419 CG
16 TT (#58) 15,394 $14,332,111 H
17 drink beer and kick ass (#111) 16,943 $14,096,547 C
18 BiBiGoN (#50) 11,345 $13,728,611 CG
19 Orderly Pandemonium (#109) 18,477 $13,070,460 R
20 Vics Numba 1 Fan (#19) 14,329 $12,810,771 FG

21 pendleton (#39) 10,991 $12,397,019 DG
22 Sudnar (#3) 7943 $11,774,404 DG
23 Kapilavastu (#28) 14,607 $11,273,945 DG
24 Disordered Turbulence (#7) 18,557 $10,939,120 T
25 H E Double Hockey Sticks (#1) 10,426 $10,756,525 CG

congrats all !!

1:1 country v. country no DR on retals and no break in the GDI rule

a country hits another country 10 times then the country that got hit gets 10 no DR retals and they keep their gdi status... keep it simple ...

-- pretty basic, if you just came out of a war and or are in heavy DRs do not go hitting innocent countries, if you still want to do so then at least be willing to accept the consequences of your own actions. Alternately hit countries you know will not be able to retal your land grab or may just let it go. However keep in mind any country you hit in express can use 360 turns to go all jetter and take what would have seemed like an impossible retal. This is the built in risk most of those who landgrab take, which is being circumvented by the DR abuse. I honestly do not mind letting go of a retal because the other player manages to stay out of my reach or makes it too expensive, actually I respect that. But hit and hide behind DRs gets no respect. It would be like someone running you over in an intersection and then laughing about it while flashing diplomatic immunity papers.

anything else can be abused ... if players wishes to abuse the above for land trading then so be it... both countries would need to be running low def anyway to make it worthwhile. Opening them up to other players taking advantage of their low def. Land trading works on clan servers, not so much on solo servers.

this thing about only allowing the first hit to be no DR and second hit breaking GDI, is like ringing the dinner bell and chumming the water for sharks in my mind.

A player wanting to mess with other players would simply farm other countries while in DR and hit them 4-5 times knowing said country can only hit them with one retal without destroying their own netting reset. They keep their option of staying way ahead in land exchange. It does not solve to problem if anything it would make it worse. Getting dragged down into the mud and unwanted wars, would be much more prevalent.

congrat all great reset ! --- did not play my last 150 turns, knew I had to be elsewhere and happy I still got 24th...

Two steps from Hell is good music too, mostly to relax and net:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd2ieQ9EyMA

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Ivan Torrent - Icarus (feat. Julie Elven - 2012)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wg1MYjOguI

Analyze This - 'Just hit the pillow'
:) -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5wQeBLQ194

it be closer to...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybICtsy5cJU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLpormw_2l4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E9TyGxxosk

after all war runs need good music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xgCIMrqYq8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGKNaIXtBZQ

of course, i want peeps like you to ignore the warnings and consider them irrelevant ;)

-- i want that arrogance to shine thru and be unmistakeable.

I want it to be a surprise :p