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There is nothing wrong with turning an enemy into a missile dump. That hasn't been the focus here. The fact that multiple countries took "revenge" by doing 100 GS each, in short time frames, mixed with SR and bio is the primary focus. How do kill runs work? Do 99% involve killing civvies? Does this generally happen as a group effort? Yes. Solo kills are possible on express. But the most common response is 2-3 players will follow news feed. The smarter ones wait a couple hours, this is to avoid the accusations of a kill run. The less intelligent don't care and, as we saw last set, will hit within minutes to assure a kill. It happened this way for both kills. Pinky swear you did no spy ops targeting civs? Pattern recognition. I've been asked repeatedly to join kill runs when a griefer farms the server. That's why I'm calling you and the other deniers a bunch of cowardly liars. It happens and you've been around long enough to know this truth. Notice you are the only player involved in here defending the kills? The others know what's up and are hiding desperate for a lock on this thread. Cheating is cheating, even when "they deserved it".

It's a 5 day set, and everyone is trying to independently kill the same 2 folks who's 10-tapping everyone. You've not actually considered what 'no collaboration' looks like - it would look exactly like how this played out. Most people just play when they can login, and in a 5-day set, a lot of folks tend to login every day, sometimes multiple times a day.

You can't coordinate a KR on this server because everyone is in GDI. Only people who have GDI broken on them can even KR as a retal, and if you happened to 10-tap 10 people, that's 10 people who are gonna login to KR you on a 360(360) turn server.

You can, however, coordinate 10-tapping the entire server, because 10-tapping goes through GDI. You have to expect the KR though - too easy on this server!

I would seriously just sanction all pvp and call it good if I ran this game.

Save everyone the grief of stupid forum posts, cry babies and hurt feelings

The forum posts are the highlight of this game!

So it wasn't us cheating because. But he cheated by multitap, so he should expect a kill run. Except it's not a kill run if you only send 50-100 GS that's "retals". It's also impossible to coordinate a KR because there is no way to send no-history in game messages. And even though the sequential "retals" all targeted civilians, this is totally random. And he should have expected the kill run, which wasn't a kill run, but random individual retals some randomly occuring within minutes of each other.

Ridiculous semantics g0nz0.....

It's.Not.That.Complicated.

Correct. It was a kill run. But nobody wants to acknowledge it because it exposes cheating and selective mod enforcement. Which is hilarious given how hard everyone stomps on griefers and suicides in firums. That's why none of the participants are here defending their actions. I've been in sets, very recent, where a griefer does their thing and few hours later one of the victims will message me. They ask when I will be on, or when they plan to hit. "If you want in", wink wink ;)
This happened more than once and it continues whenever there is a griefer. It's always A: Solo kill or B: random sequential just lucky I guess kill (not a KR!).

If someone breaks GDI on me my actions are...

- spy.
- analize the situation.
- pick KR or Pancake.
- done.

Don’t forget to also file a complaint for griefing as well lol

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha you are pathetic scum we would lose nothing if you left this game

complaint for griefing? hitting the most land fat target = griefer? He has no defense and the most land fat on the entire server. disgusting people like you have turned this game in to fluff how dare u call it cheating to attack someone more than once. you pathetic garbage

I'm pretty sure when I first got hit I had 4m turrets, and the person who hit me had 6m jets and no defence. LOL

In general, in Express, no matter how much defence you keep, a motivated all-jetter will always break you. Suiciders aren't looking to do anything with the land, that's why so many of them have no defence.

You are an imbecile that knows nothing. Hopefully you get a forum ban soon for spamming and for being a general moron…..

I am reading about this not having two or more countries doing a kill run and that has to be the biggest pile of BS I have ever heard. A few sets back I had a situation in where one might assume there was coordination in some form. The irony was the only coordination I could see was this guys ally deciding to hit me out of nowhere right after I simply did ONE PS on his buddy. It was fun in that they both failed several attacks on me and I ran them two of them into the ground. There was a point where the news may have seemed there was coordination of some form with me and another player when I unloaded my missiles (literally a minute or two after this other guy did a few PS and missiles). Nothing more than coincidence and no contact whatsoever, and I mean even if someone checked or seen the news I would say of course if you have broken GDI on more than one person and they see the news they should not be punished for doing the same.

Awesome story man. Pure coincidence. You're skipping some posts, missing the point or, as many others, attempting to redirect this to "you're saying there can't be more than one enemy who retals". Therenosuchthingasakillrunstheresnosuchthingasakillrunspleasepleasepleasestopsayingliiiiies!!!!

Truth. When SF (or whomever) was farming express he kept saying it was only low defense noobs. Usually I don't buy defense till after I'm done with stage 1 landgrabs. So after the farming sets began I had 2.5 million turrets as soon as I could afford. Still got 3 hits. Same thing next round. Didn't seem to matter.

Griefing refers to when a player forgoes any intention to win a game and instead focuses on annoying other players by manipulating aspects of the game in unintended ways.

Collusion-secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.

Griefing gets you sanctioned, collusion gets you purpled. No debate, just definitions. You have no worries if you avoid those two.

I think there's a gray zone between griefers and suicides. Griefers will claim they are only doing it because low defense or a cross-server vendetta. Suicides will attack anyone they can break and missile dump the ones they can't. Just for fun. From there it's surviving the retal kill. Technically they're both suicides as the end result is 99% are killed. We tend to switch those terms.

Why are you guys blaming suiciders? It is nothing more than game mechanics, outdated and 20 years old that are to blame. Never blame the players when the game is flawed

u w0t m8? obviously not played very many games. suiciding means you are playing the game as intended but attacking riskily and you are probably going to get hit back harder, something along those lines. griefing means you are intentionally not playing the game as intended for the sole purposes of ruining another persons gameplay - that is griefing in all games in all facets, not w/e you said which clearly shows you have little experience in the gaming world

And by the way my stance on both of these is that NEITHER should be punishable by manual moderation if you want to stop suiciders and griefers because you think its not great for the game then do it WITH REAL CODE-BASED IMPROVEMENTS AND UPDATES TO THE GAME AND MECHANICS

Low defense is not a programming flaw. It is human error. I do agree on the bias. Unfortunate, but not uncommon when some of these players have been friends 20 years and shared dik pics.

Yes it is a game flaw. Over time as bots have come in and no changes have been made, gradually the metagame started to become attack bots only because they give free land and cannot retal. After this this evolved once more in to the bot-farming no defense meta - everyone is now farming bots so its now safe to have 0 defense - anyone who attacks as per normal is now seen as a suicider because they should only be attacking bots like everyone else.

The "programming flaw" is the metagame that has been established since bots were introduced and the failure to properly update and improve the game, changing things up when they get stale, etc. Long ago the developers should have realised that the bot-play is not long term good for the game and they should have changed it up a bit.

/me eats popcorn

Mod and admin bashing and false claims against them is not allowed on the forums and I personally find it particularly annoying. If someone has a complaint about one, message me directly.

One player is in forum time-out. ...Another is close. Chill out and go play the game.

And that's why I grabbed the popcorn, saw the hammer coming LOL

Oh cool I got to kill you this set on my own



bayrock (#11)
(Theocracy)
Rank: 102
Networth: 201,498
Land: 1810
Successful Attack Percentage: 100%
Successful Defense Percentage: 8.33%
GDI Member
Dead

lol...it must have been more PvP than he could handle.

The irony is delicious LOL

I think he only likes the one sided PvP where he gets lots of land from players. He doesn't seem to like getting hit back, or worse killed off completely, yet that is the main perk of hitting the bots...not getting hit back. It just takes a bit of time and effort to find the right bots to hit that aren't in DR.

He’s been awfully quite lately. Did Sir Gerdler bless us with his first forum suspension?

If so that is uncalled for! I demand to see bayrocks reaction lol

Prime gave him a time out, he said so himself in another thread.

I thought it was zack that was on a time out and bayrock was close to getting his?

Guess I was wrong. Well in a few days I guess we can see what he has to say until then please restart bayrock so that I can LG you plz