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May 14th 2015, 18:21:41

http://www.upi.com/...533687/?spt=sec&or=on

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i hate to laugh about a guy losing his eyesight, but this thread is just dripping in irony. my stomach hurts from laughing so much :(

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May 14th 2015, 18:30:31

That us where I grew up.....
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May 14th 2015, 18:34:19

Unbelievable. This is why we have health care in Canada :)

Though to be fair most of the time they don't cover teeth or eyes. How very silly.
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May 14th 2015, 18:40:04

So you are thankful that you have Healthcare in Canada that wouldn't have done anything different?
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May 14th 2015, 18:40:20

Thanks Obama!
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May 14th 2015, 18:45:13

I have a feeling like eye surgery would be handled, given it's not just glasses & eye checkup, but I'm not totally certain.
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May 14th 2015, 18:50:51

from elsewhere on the internet:

An individual who made horrific personal health choices, neglected to make the appropriate moves towards acquiring health care coverage, and now is in dire straits do to his own negligence?

If only we had Universal Healthcare to help out those whose total and complete ignorance of their own health is ultimately costing their eyesight.

mFrost Game profile

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May 14th 2015, 19:22:25

Unfortunately what the USofA has is not healthcare, but a mandated subsidy to insurance companies. :p

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May 14th 2015, 19:22:30

also, how did he magically forget about the phrase 'personal responsibility' after he found himself in a bad medical situation :(

guess he's just not very bootstrappy, just preaches it

typical neocons

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May 14th 2015, 19:57:13

sensationalism

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May 14th 2015, 20:08:08

Originally posted by mFrost:
Unfortunately what the USofA has is not healthcare, but a mandated subsidy to insurance companies. :p


haha, that's pretty accurate :p

america is so corrupted
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May 14th 2015, 20:20:30

Originally posted by Vic:
sensationalism
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
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May 18th 2015, 14:34:00

#facts

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May 18th 2015, 17:22:57

Originally posted by Trife:
from elsewhere on the internet:

An individual who made horrific personal health choices, neglected to make the appropriate moves towards acquiring health care coverage, and now is in dire straits do to his own negligence?

If only we had Universal Healthcare to help out those whose total and complete ignorance of their own health is ultimately costing their eyesight.


No need - it is called natural selection.

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May 18th 2015, 18:40:10

Indeed which is why so many americans dies daily and the rest of the world cheers as the world is turning into a smarter place :P

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May 18th 2015, 20:56:21

i would argue that someone with an attitude like that dying is far more beneficial than an idiot dying.

although logic would dictate that they arnt exactly mutually exclusive things generally.
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May 18th 2015, 22:30:46

Originally posted by Ivan:
Indeed which is why so many americans dies daily and the rest of the world cheers as the world is turning into a smarter place :P


commentary from the third world isn't necessary. Must suck to wake up and realize your countries economy, military, and outlook are inferior to the United States.

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May 18th 2015, 22:48:41

Originally posted by Trife:
also, how did he magically forget about the phrase 'personal responsibility' after he found himself in a bad medical situation :(

guess he's just not very bootstrappy, just preaches it

typical neocons


Generally we use 'neocon' to describe people with hawkish, interventionist foreign policy views, not those who make idiotic decisions about health care.

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May 18th 2015, 23:19:27

Originally posted by Klown:
Originally posted by Trife:
also, how did he magically forget about the phrase 'personal responsibility' after he found himself in a bad medical situation :(

guess he's just not very bootstrappy, just preaches it

typical neocons


Generally we use 'neocon' to describe people with hawkish, interventionist foreign policy views, not those who make idiotic decisions about health care.


You would have better luck teaching your pet rock to go fetch than you would have trying to get trife to use common sense, logic, reasoning, deduction, or any other skill possessed by normal humans; instead, he just spouts off buzzwords he heard from his libtard media masters.

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May 19th 2015, 16:00:37

So not only did he opt himself out of healthcare coverage, but he is a smoker with diabetes as well? I mean, if you have to sleep in the bed you make for yourself.....yikes...

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May 19th 2015, 16:12:54

roflmao@ssewellusmc

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May 19th 2015, 18:12:28

This guy should have carried a catastrophic insurance plan. It's more than realistic to say that the ACA-plans are often less cost-effective than they're worth, particularly the younger you are, but where you get into trouble is in the big picture items like car crashes, sudden terminal illnesses, pallative care following said illnesses, etc.

I'm not sure the guy's decisions make him a neocon. In fact, I'm not really sure what makes him a neocon at all here.

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May 19th 2015, 18:20:26

Trife, you're still an asshole I see. Laughing at another man's misfortune like you are is straight up douchebaggery.
I don't need anger management, people need to stop pissing me off!

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May 19th 2015, 18:36:48

Originally posted by Cerberus:
Trife, you're still an asshole I see. Laughing at another man's misfortune like you are is straight up douchebaggery.


i thought y'all neocons were big on personal responsibility!

also, is it still called misfortune if they're the result of your own actions?

oh, there's bill again, he just got his 5th DUI... such misfortune!

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May 19th 2015, 19:23:48

Originally posted by Trife:
Originally posted by Cerberus:
Trife, you're still an asshole I see. Laughing at another man's misfortune like you are is straight up douchebaggery.


i thought y'all neocons were big on personal responsibility!

also, is it still called misfortune if they're the result of your own actions?

oh, there's bill again, he just got his 5th DUI... such misfortune!


Again, I'm confused as to how this guy is a neocon. Please elaborate.

As for misfortune, that's an interesting question. His choices certainly weren't helpful, but they're also not necessarily causal. You can have diabetes and eat a healthy diet. You can have various cancers without smoking. You can eat poorly and never contract diabetes. You can smoke and never contract cancer. Poor health choices significantly increase risk.

Of course, this guy's idiocy in foregoing any form of insurance coverage. We know his age, his health habits, and his line of work, so it really doesn't take a genius to conclude the benefits outweigh the costs for him. If he were say 25, in good health, and a handyman, then perhaps I would say he has more of a point.

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May 19th 2015, 19:44:50

tl:dr - stay back trumper, i'm busy trollin the trolls

Edited By: Trife on May 20th 2015, 2:02:04

braden Game profile

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May 19th 2015, 20:17:35

bill has a disease, trife. you wouldnt make fun of somebody with polio, would you?


(nice job on walking, delano- ok, so if you wouldnt i just did)

Trife Game profile

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May 19th 2015, 21:43:15

yes, because polio is gods way of punishing mankind for gay marriage

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May 19th 2015, 22:43:10

It's just another way that God mysteriously shows that he loves us..
- seth mcfarland


also, isis and dead puppies is gods way of telling us anything not conservative is the work of the devil.

go kill puppies and support isis, socialist scum.

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May 19th 2015, 23:17:14

im doing my best to kill as many kittens as i can


and if it weren't for this damn chafing problem, my killcount would be alot higher

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May 19th 2015, 23:48:55

just out of curiosity, how many here would jump at the chance to have healthcare for the following price,

HRA:
Per Paycheck: $769.99 bi-weekly
Yearly cost: $9,239.88

PPO:
Per Paycheck: $850.01 bi-weekly
Yearly cost: $10,200.06

Copays: $50 for Office, $100 for Emergency, $20 for Generic Prescription $35 for Name Brand Prescription
Deductible: 12,500 (Max out of pocket per year) $6,000 per incident per person.

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The above is the insurance being offered to me by my employer for a family of 3. No subsidies, and the employer was still paying their portion. Welcome to California rates (Big Blue Liberal State, opting in and getting screwed) ... and I hear place like Wyoming are even worse off.

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funny I had no problem, paying for heath insurance before the ACA, and then prices tripled, and put me out of the affordability range. Sort of feels like people being told they can come into my home and take the food off my table, now i do not mind sharing, but not to the point I have nothing left to eat.

Ah, yes it's the evil insurance companies taking advantage of the ACA. Sort of like letting a fox lose in a chicken coup and then blaming the fox for killing the chickens. Although everyone said "hey that fox is going to kill your chickens", lets just claim unintended consequences, and say the fox is evil for doing what it is known to do.

I did my homework when it comes to the ACA, because getting screwed over like this, I just needed to know, if this was just a one off, or something fundamentally wrong with the law. It can be shown thru data, that the ACA at a national level doubled the cost of insurance in less than 6 years. The normal rate for insurance doubling prior to the ACA, took 17 years to double. In 1991 the price was $175 per month in 2007 the price was $366 per month in 2006 it was $344. The ACA and "evil" insurance companies managed to take insurance prices in 2009 which were $383 per month to a staggering $774 per month by 2014. These number are at a national level as calculated by eHealthinsurance.com, the BLS.gov, and the HHS.gov websites.

Before trying to use the "but you cannot be charged more than 10% of your income", with me i would point you to the Congressional Reporting Service's data clearly showing that a 60 year old who happens to be just above the threshold for subsidies in a higher cost area, will be paying approximately 32% of their income toward health insurance or $18,999 per year. <--- Because we all know these are the healthy years, and the time in a person's life where they would prefer paying for insurance than putting any extra money away for retirement.

http://www.ncls.org/...th/hlthinspremcredits.pdf

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Based on the data I am seeing and the research I did the ACA is a failure. More power to you if your employer pays for your insurance, you get free healthcare thru some gov or union job, or your premiums are lower, because you live in a state like Arizona. While I can understand the need for reform and how this supposedly helped those who could not get health insurance due to pre-existing conditions, this was not the solution.

Having been mentored to not point fingers at a problem without at least providing an alternate solution I offer the following: The correct answer would have been to open up the various programs offered by Federal and State govs to be purchased by corporations and individuals. Medicare is supposedly going to be run out of money in 20 or so years, and I would think the gov would love to get extra cash coming into its coffers. What would the difference be, whether i paid Medicare or Blue Cross, Tri-Care or Blue Cross, CHIP or Blue Cross? As long as at the end of the day bottom line i get the healthcare I need. Someone wants to support the military, they buy tri-care, someone wants to ensure medicare will still be available when they retire buys medicare, or someoneis thinking of the poor children they buy CHIPs. The extra money in those programs would allow them to reach out and help more people or provide even better coverage for those in need. Putting your money where your mouth is, you care about poor people, then invest your dollars where it would do the most good, big health insurance Companies is not it when it comes to helping poor people get what they need.

The other aspect to this solution is that it does create a cap insurance companies can charge, and/or they would need to differentiate themselves and offer a superior service people would be willing to pay extra for. Kind of like Fedex, UPS, vs. the US Post Office, they can charge a little more and still have the capacity to compete, however very few people are going to pay 3x the price for a similar service.

Edited By: mFrost on May 19th 2015, 23:54:17
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May 19th 2015, 23:59:59

I blame Obama and he seems to blame the president before his term... wait he is on his second term... almost over...
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May 20th 2015, 0:15:22

Originally posted by BlueCow:
I blame Obama and he seems to blame the president before his term... wait he is on his second term... almost over...


When Obamagot elected, with all his wonderful speeches to the naive youth, I basically chocked it up to -- if they allow him to do what he claims he will be doing then it may be a good thing. Then again, I sat back and wondered to myself what could some entity possibly want to make it worthwhile to pay 2 billion dollars to get him elected. I doubted any entity or group would invest 2 billion dollars into a candidate without getting something back out of such an investment. Then the ACA passed and I got my answer... 20-30 million additional customers subsidized thru tax dollars, at almost 10K per new customer = 200-300 billion per year for as long as this law remains in effect, now that is one hell of an ROI.

mFrost

Edited By: mFrost on May 20th 2015, 0:18:18
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May 20th 2015, 0:21:45

Originally posted by ssewellusmc:
Originally posted by Trife:
from elsewhere on the internet:

An individual who made horrific personal health choices, neglected to make the appropriate moves towards acquiring health care coverage, and now is in dire straits do to his own negligence?

If only we had Universal Healthcare to help out those whose total and complete ignorance of their own health is ultimately costing their eyesight.


No need - it is called natural selection.


This is not true, because even if you believe in the theory of evolution, this man's stupidity and impending blindness probably didn't prevent him from reproducing.

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May 20th 2015, 0:24:26

Originally posted by mFrost:
Originally posted by BlueCow:
I blame Obama and he seems to blame the president before his term... wait he is on his second term... almost over...


When Obamagot elected, with all his wonderful speeches to the naive youth, I basically chocked it up to -- if they allow him to do what he claims he will be doing then it may be a good thing. Then again, I sat back and wondered to myself what could some entity possibly want to make it worthwhile to pay 2 billion dollars to get him elected. I doubted any entity or group would invest 2 billion dollars into a candidate without getting something back out of such an investment. Then the ACA passed and I got my answer... 20-30 million additional customers subsidized thru tax dollars, at almost 10K per new customer = 200-300 billion per year for as long as this law remains in effect, now that is one hell of an ROI.

mFrost


You are not wrong there, but we could also talk about his buddy warren buffet and the keystone pipe line not being implemented. All this so Buffet can continue to run his suicide trains.
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May 20th 2015, 0:58:08

Originally posted by BlueCow:
Originally posted by mFrost:
Originally posted by BlueCow:
I blame Obama and he seems to blame the president before his term... wait he is on his second term... almost over...


When Obamagot elected, with all his wonderful speeches to the naive youth, I basically chocked it up to -- if they allow him to do what he claims he will be doing then it may be a good thing. Then again, I sat back and wondered to myself what could some entity possibly want to make it worthwhile to pay 2 billion dollars to get him elected. I doubted any entity or group would invest 2 billion dollars into a candidate without getting something back out of such an investment. Then the ACA passed and I got my answer... 20-30 million additional customers subsidized thru tax dollars, at almost 10K per new customer = 200-300 billion per year for as long as this law remains in effect, now that is one hell of an ROI.

mFrost


You are not wrong there, but we could also talk about his buddy warren buffet and the keystone pipe line not being implemented. All this so Buffet can continue to run his suicide trains.


well that explains his irrational need to stop the pipeline, all the while draped in an environmentalist flag. So many have gotten perks and sweet deals from this administration. The banking elite, and Big pharma, let's not even talk about GMOs, which borders on criminal. But then again he is such a sweet talker, and master of misdirection.

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May 20th 2015, 1:00:47

The US govt in general is so corrupt. It is the fault of both the parties. Both handing out perks to the corps that run them.
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If you sincerely believe that the game admins are lying to you then you should obviously quit the game.

braden Game profile

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May 20th 2015, 1:14:17

i blame the immigrants that the socialists let in.

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May 20th 2015, 1:18:04

Barack Hussein Osama
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May 20th 2015, 1:19:23

Originally posted by BlueCow:
The US govt in general is so corrupt. It is the fault of both the parties. Both handing out perks to the corps that run them.


so very true, and not just limited to the US either ;)

--- At least I still have my Canadian Citizenship and family living in Canada should I actually need Healthcare :p

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May 20th 2015, 15:34:39

Stupid health care moochers!

YOU MADE YOUR CHOICE, YOU DIE IN AMERICA!!
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May 20th 2015, 15:54:34

Originally posted by mFrost:
The correct answer would have been to open up the various programs offered by Federal and State govs to be purchased by corporations and individuals. Medicare is supposedly going to be run out of money in 20 or so years, and I would think the gov would love to get extra cash coming into its coffers. What would the difference be, whether i paid Medicare or Blue Cross, Tri-Care or Blue Cross, CHIP or Blue Cross? As long as at the end of the day bottom line i get the healthcare I need. Someone wants to support the military, they buy tri-care, someone wants to ensure medicare will still be available when they retire buys medicare, or someoneis thinking of the poor children they buy CHIPs. The extra money in those programs would allow them to reach out and help more people or provide even better coverage for those in need. Putting your money where your mouth is, you care about poor people, then invest your dollars where it would do the most good, big health insurance Companies is not it when it comes to helping poor people get what they need.

The other aspect to this solution is that it does create a cap insurance companies can charge, and/or they would need to differentiate themselves and offer a superior service people would be willing to pay extra for. Kind of like Fedex, UPS, vs. the US Post Office, they can charge a little more and still have the capacity to compete, however very few people are going to pay 3x the price for a similar service.


This is definitely the way to go for America; but, correct me if I'm wrong, this was part of the original version wasn't it? that got hacked to pieces to satisfy the Republican party? no?
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tellarion Game profile

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May 20th 2015, 16:36:34

At least you don't have to deal with this in the States: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_A0GigrQl0

Guy misappropriates government funds, gets caught....cries about it....

Trife Game profile

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May 20th 2015, 17:19:25

we get to deal with republican politicians being very vocal about their anti-gay views, only to find out that he's been on grindr or playing with fleshswords at the local rest area



it's the family values party! :)


braden Game profile

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May 20th 2015, 17:23:38

meh, ill take family values over welfare and contraceptives for whorish women

(not that theres anything wrong with that)

Trife Game profile

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May 20th 2015, 17:27:03

hahaha that one got a good, hearty chuckle out of me

:)

braden Game profile

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May 20th 2015, 17:29:39

i had sex with a russian chick. she was born in the ussr. does that make me a socialist?

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May 20th 2015, 17:30:44

is this where you want to be when jesus comes back?
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May 20th 2015, 17:37:27

Originally posted by braden:
i had sex with a russian chick. she was born in the ussr. does that make me a socialist?


only if her balls and your balls touched

braden Game profile

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May 20th 2015, 17:39:51

my hammer touched her sickle..


oh, wait.. the result would be horrible..