people should learn that 6000k jets and 800k turrets means mass farming ... specially when they retal way over 36 hours ...

I'm with ya, Alin. anytime someone retals me and they are setup like that I'm tempted to ror, and often do

^Absolutely worth it and I'm with Alin. All jetter retals are not legitimate in my book.

Well I can't see anything illegitimate in retalling, however you go about it.

But I agree that disrupting a country to go jet heavy just for the satisfaction of bringing of a retal is a losing game. I am always on the lookout in the news for someone who has done this and I am far from the only predator who does so.

I just don't like that the way gdi works almost condones that type of thing. By that I mean Going practically defenseless so that you can do huge retals in the hope that the larger player will not ror to avoid war.

This is why I usually play all x.



A retal is a retal, doesn't matter if someone considers it 'legitimate'. RoRing does nothing but open yourself to grieffing. Unless, of course you, manage bury them to the ground first.

because its much better to run commie and outrun retals and then get sad when people retal late and have to have heavy jets to do so.

Grow up you spastics.

I've had it happen playing other types of countries. It doesn't bother me when someone retals, but I do think it's funny when someone retals after leaving theirself nearly defense, and then they get butthurt when I ror. The fact that they can rely on gdi to ward off the ror is the messed up thing tho..

It's not messed up, it's playing the game.

They make a a risk/benefit call on whether you want to war or not, and take a chance on you wanting a decent finish. The last 4 resets I can only see one example of a t10 finish after a RoR and that was presumably Alin. If your objective is the finish it ain't worth doing, particularly as it's probably set wrekcking for the otherside as well so they've not got a lot of interest in doing anything except making it rain cannon balls.

When i ROR all jets, finish does not matter anymore.

What people should learn from here is that :
1. there are some players that go all jets just to retal @ turn 1700 ( which by the way does not get anyone, anywhere )
2. there are some players ( me included ) that will farm to the ground all jeters.

P.S: I do agree that the farming on Craterus was kinda of a fluff move ( i could not resist the 300k jets SS). However, the second guy got what he deserved. His retal was @ 1700 turns - with land drooping included. His purpose was not even to use the land. Just to retal as an all jeter. So since his purpose was that, allow me to wreck his country than.

Don't get me wrong, craterus, I understand people are just playing the game. I just think that's a flaw that gdi has at the moment.

I actually agree Kevro, but the other flaw is that if the person CAN'T make a jet retal, they don't have any option at all. Not saying they should be able to do whatever they want, if they're smaller getting attacked is natural, buuut...

Yeah, the current GDI rules are crap.

Personally I'm fine with GDI. Its not perfect, but it establishes a set of rules and protocol. Don't have GDI, its pretty much a free for all, have GDI, then you live within GDI rules.

That being said it is pretty messed up that GDI can make certain countries virtually retal proof.

It should only protect you from countries that you haven't hit *at all,* not countries you've only hit twice. It twists up the incentive curve and throws off the balance, not to mention ensures new players won't stay.

New players won't stay?

If you get hit and have zero chance at a retal, and can't figure out why, are you going to stay and figure it out while a parade of countries systematically grab all your land?