I see this question come up a lot. I think there are two reasons why in my head I'm able to at least understand the decision to do this now, and not before.

1. LaF do not have the same history as RD. When RD returned to the game, (as far as I know) they basically had to ask to be allowed back. They made certain promises of reform and so on. Fool me once type of thing. RD already fooled us once. They started off with a shorter leash than LaF.

2. Hanlong/TC got banned for this. Obviously that was not enough of a deterrent to stop others. These attacks occurred in order to gain a political advantage in the game. The consequence needs to make the risk of those actions simply not be worth it. An alliance losing 2 or 3 countries in exchange for the information gathered might be an acceptable loss for certain leaders. That same alliance losing every single country is no longer an acceptable loss.

That having been said, we're a community. Yes we have mods and admins, but not that long ago we were all on the same playing field under Mehul. We're a pretty awesome and unique community. There are very few things in my life that I can say I've been a part of for the last 15 years. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with this decision being made by only 3 people. I would think that the admins might have considered reaching out to certain trusted members of the community. A sort of disciplinary council or panel, if you will. If nothing else it would eliminate or reduce the appearance of bias. Maybe in the future something like this can be considered.

They did, just not in the form you are thinking. Lots of people had to do work on researching logs and sending info to the admins. Some of them had to look at the leaked files to determine who was at risk and when the breach occurred, etc.

There were more than 3 people doing the work on this. There were more than 3 people consulted on the appropriate disciplinary action. Although it was those 3 that have the final decision.

i find it strange that nobody cares about the SECURITY issue that having passwords stolen is.

why the hell do you guys seem to care so much about this stupid game?

laf has EVERY SINGLE fluffING HISTORY RD DOES

you people are retarded. retarded. if you're a colour in rd, you have access to laf, openly and freely. if you're a don or even a semblence of leader in laf, you have open and free access to rd.

if you delete one, you delete the other. if pang played in one for twelve years, he played in or IMMEDIATELY BENEFITED FROM the other.

rd and pang go so far back it is a joke that anybody, anybody, listen to word one of his.

You're trying too hard, give it up.

He also makes no sense at all.

Like listening to the ramblings of a crazy person.

sg, check colours board, bud.

Feel free to tell me what color I am, I always find it amusing.

what's my color? i was never informed of it.

i just though of an awesome color:

Mr. Colorblind

wooo?

sg is actually frog bu !!

Fair enough

yea, thats clever, you know i can never reveal this on at lest i lose my own

(or am i the one who's clever, knowing i can say i can never say :P)

no, when i am president vic, no frog bus allowed. period.

braden, you cheater. You got deleted for cheating, cheater.

at least i'm not a schmelt

Braden is not a cheater.

I completely and totally trust him. I had the honor of serving with him in Monsters and have nothing but the highest regard for him.

It really does bother me that him and some other clean players are caught up in this.

IT'S A TRAP

servant is good people, and him and trife fifteen years later are proof that you can be "enemies" but still perfectly be friends

SG.. you're the devil because you ran laf after tc and hlw did their fluff.. you and eugene both deserve to be deleted.

why? the same reason i was, we play beside people who cheat. apparently other peoples transgressions now get you deleted.

play clean and respectful to the point where not a single member of the community has anything bad to say about *you*? deleted.

needs to be my new sig.

Braden,

when were we enemies?

I never know of this:)

you're aces, servant. you could knife me in an alley and i'd be hard stretched to call you anything but a friend

I heard it is Mr. Fuchsia

an actual colour fuchsia was

i would've said heliotrope but nobody knows what a trope is, let alone a heliotrope :(

only my second favourite colour of purple, heh

some interesting things you can learn when fluff hits the fan!

Just by the intensity of braden posts ( in poker we call the phenomenon tilt+all inn)i don`t think this guy had anything to do with the current state of hacking/cheating.

Braden is a giant noob. If he hacked he'd probably delete his and my countries by accident :P

i can barely remember my OWN password, let alone anybody elses :(

but tropes are fun, and even more english is fun.. fluff.. do any of you read?

Muahaha. Damn this is interesting.

Weeeedy, Just get off AT.

Go smoke some good stuff and chill.

How come I am not a color?

I think retrospective action should be taken against LaF. Change the deletion message to "Your country has been deleted because RD members demanded so, lol".

yea, you were RED, no?

if only you fluffing knew.

sw: i am not president yet, once i am, seawolf SHALL RISE AGAIN!

Thanks for hijacking my thread, bum-bum face!

this made my heart mushy and warm