Those look like two conflicting statements.... you believe the suicides on LaF are justified.... but you are fully against them?
Yeah, I was worried about the wording there. I am against suiciding and suiciding is punished with booting and banning, as just happened. You think I would encourage my members to suicide only to ban them shortly after they do so?
To clarify, I am explaining to you WHY LaF gets suicided on and WHY there is PDM resentment against LaF.
Suicided on us a year ago, refused to pay the full amount and did not help kill the suicider; LaF would later kill PDM over the non-payment of the reps as per the terms of our pact, once the pact expired.
wtf? You killed it before we could even ARRANGE a KR against him. Fast acting by LaF. Don't blame us for that.
PDM then attacks LaF the next set again, is completely obliterated and cries to our leaders for a pact.
Yes, we asked to sign a pact, but don't act like you guys wanted another war. This is just spin. You yourself said you guys would much prefer to get back to netting. Sounds like contradictory statements to me in spirit.
A PDM member suicides LaF a few days ago, I was sent a message saying "you may want to kill 307 before he hits you more".... no help offered by PDM, despite the fact that 15 of the 22 live PDM countries could attack the player.
Here is the ENTIRETY of what I sent to Parallax, lest you take more of my words out of context:
Arabian Nightmare (5/14/2010 6:21 AM):
Yo. Stormreavers (#307) just hit one of your guys like 10 times. farm him into oblivion and then kill him at your leisure. i am warning you that after you farm him, he will very likely suicide, so you should farm him then IMMEDIATELY kill him.
Arabian Nightmare (5/14/2010 6:23 AM):
nevermind, he is completely suiciding
Arabian Nightmare (5/14/2010 6:23 AM):
we'll try to set up a KR ASAP
No help offered?? Really??
PDM took LaF off DNH this set, did not tell us, and allowed their players to begin grabbing us. They were surprised when we followed suit.
We need to inform you now when we take you or put you on DNH? By the way, I was never guaranteed a DNH from anyone in LaF, and although presumably there might have been one, I couldn't have known for sure. Not like it makes a difference anyways.
PDM now claims the suicide was LaF's fault for a variety of reasons, ranging from defenseless countries, to arrogance, to simply existing.
Not entirely your fault. Obviously the guy was in our alliance. But your willful refusal to wake up and address the reasons that make LaF so suicide-able compounds the problems--so yes, indirectly LaF IS at fault.
That's like saying a barbarian village says it's not their fault that they get plundered by a neighboring tribe even though they didn't have any guards on duty. Sure, it's not their fault they got plundered, but making itself an inviting target facilitated it.