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Feb 25th 2021, 16:44:27

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Feb 25th 2021, 16:48:47

Im actually using some deer meat this weekend at the chili cookoff.. lol.. Hope i dont kill nobody..

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Feb 25th 2021, 16:49:39

Had the cookoff not be in 2 days i might have had to hit ya up for some of them hot peppers KoH..

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Feb 25th 2021, 16:58:34

Yeah I would have sent you some, that Reaper ghost pepper plant is super productive lol

Now my white ghost pepper is fruiting, I'm excited for those!
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Feb 25th 2021, 17:14:10

I would love to try that Reaper Ghost.. My ghost pepper plant is growing but hasnt produced at all in about 7 months.. beginning of last year it was doing great.. Dont know whats up with it..

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Feb 25th 2021, 17:32:23

Originally posted by HEMPMAN1:
I would love to try that Reaper Ghost.. My ghost pepper plant is growing but hasnt produced at all in about 7 months.. beginning of last year it was doing great.. Dont know whats up with it..


Did you prune after the first harvest? I always prune then it comes back stronger.

PM me your address, I'll send you seeds 😉
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Feb 25th 2021, 17:54:14

Sweet.. on the way!

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Feb 25th 2021, 17:55:58

Is it the Reaper Ghost seeds?? Hotter than my plain ghost huh??

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Feb 25th 2021, 18:06:20

Yeah, Reapers are just north of 2m SHU and ghost is 1m SHU, so mine is somewhere in that range.
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Feb 25th 2021, 18:33:37

i feel like i just witnessed a drug deal, except instead of feeling good, you guys will just have heartburn.
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Feb 25th 2021, 18:59:29

lol.. well i have planted some other seeds. ;)

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Feb 25th 2021, 19:04:47

Originally posted by myerr21:
i feel like i just witnessed a drug deal, except instead of feeling good, you guys will just have heartburn.


I don't get that from hot peppers luckily, I experience ass burn from cooked hot peppers so I don't eat them cooked 😉
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Feb 25th 2021, 19:04:53

Originally posted by myerr21:
i feel like i just witnessed a drug deal, except instead of feeling good, you guys will just have heartburn.

You should have seen the pepper seeds that KoH has sent me. And they have sprouted. In return he got some other pepper seeds he had been on the hunt for!
I like garden seed exchanges :) It is fun!


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Feb 25th 2021, 19:33:57

Gal, did you get the Reaper Ghost seeds??

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Feb 25th 2021, 19:47:27

Originally posted by galleri:
Originally posted by myerr21:
i feel like i just witnessed a drug deal, except instead of feeling good, you guys will just have heartburn.

You should have seen the pepper seeds that KoH has sent me. And they have sprouted. In return he got some other pepper seeds he had been on the hunt for!
I like garden seed exchanges :) It is fun!


Nice! I haven't planted the ones you sent me yet, I'm having a hard time getting two varieties of cucumber to sprout and it's really starting to tick me off LOL
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Feb 25th 2021, 19:48:23

Originally posted by HEMPMAN1:
Gal, did you get the Reaper Ghost seeds??


She did 😁
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Feb 25th 2021, 19:50:59

I got a lot of seeds. I will post photos later today!


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Feb 25th 2021, 20:12:04

Cool!

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Feb 26th 2021, 10:00:15

Ahhh good ole cwd. Look it up lot of research done on it. If it ever is able to infect humans we are all fluffed not just those of us that eat deer. It's similar to mad cow but currently humans aren't vulnerable to it .

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Feb 26th 2021, 13:10:53

Originally posted by galleri:
I got a lot of seeds. I will post photos later today!


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Feb 26th 2021, 13:41:39

Similar to mad cow eh?

You know basically any animal that eats the brains of it's own species gets a horrible nervous system disease. In New Guinea, there was a tribe (The Fore) that practiced cannibalism of their deceased family members still into the industrial era of the west.

What's sort of interesting is that when they would participate in a ritualistic cannibalism as a tribe. Essentially when a member of your family would die, cooking and eating them would help free their spirit from their body and give them to the gods. Women and children consumed the brain, while men of the family consumed the meaty tissue

What we discovered in their women and children was, perhaps months after eating a human brain, perhaps years, symptoms develop. It is always fatal. And symptoms last about a year before death. Symptoms include random outbursts of laughter (sometimes referred to as laughing disease), tremors, gradual loss of coordination from neurodegeneration, amd of course eventually death.

It's often believed the epidemic started when someone with Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease was eaten. And subsequently this Kuru disease caused by eating someones brains who had spongiform encephalopathy, caused a long running epidemic of what should otherwise be known as "mad human disease."

In 1957, there were over 200 deaths in the tribe. And from 1957 when the disease was discovered by the west to about 2004 (yes you're reading that year correct) about 2700 people had died from this mad human disease. Local sources disagree that the last kuru death was either in 2005 or 2009 but they all kept eating their dead until very very recently despite breakthrough research about Kuru. The disease itself lingering was a product of incubation time. The practice of cannibalism was ended in the 60s, but the incubation time for Kuru can be 10, 20 or even 50 years. Once symptoms show up, you're dead within 14 months usually. But symptoms can take decades to show up. So, at least 45 years after the practice ended, you still had people dying in the mid 2000s from previously eating brains.

Interestingly, mad cow is also a product of a Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease infected cows brains being consumed by other cows. Similarly, chronic wasting disease in deer is caused by the same prion proteins. Again....caused by species on species brain nom noms. It's sort of disgusting and embarrassing to me that most cases of mad cow are caused by farmers feeding cow brains to other cows.

The easiest way to keep yourself safe is actually quite simple. Don't eat brains lol. As goofy as that sounds it's also true of mad cow disease which is for sure transmissible to humans. Only certain organs, primarily the brain, actually contain the folded protein. The disease itself is only found in certain tissues in the body, which range from the brain, lymph nodes, spinal cord, spleen, tonsils, eyes etc.

The reason why mad cow was such a problem for humans is that we tend to grind all that crap up into cheap cuts and jerky and hot dogs. One could almost assume the anecdotal transmission of CWD into humans is a product of some weirdo eating a spleen or something. It's just not a common practice with deer.

With both mad cow, and anecdotally CWD, you're generally safe from transmission should you not eat these tissues. And there is a simple problem. When a butcher uses the meat from a cow they tend to feed the bad parts of the cow back to the other animals thus mad cow. CWD, unfortunately, seems most widespread in communities of captive deer populations. It's likely that it spead from there into the wild, and so continued as food for deer increases in scarcity as the world industrialized. The harder it is for them to find wheat and grains, the more likely they are to engage in cannibalism for survival.

Tl:dr Dont eat brains. Dont get zombie diseases.

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Feb 27th 2021, 4:13:42

The problem with cwd it's passed through saliva, urine and fecal matter. While the bulk of prions are yes in the nervous systems it is also in the muscle meats. Cwd currently only effects cervids with one exception. A study has shown it jump to monkeys. The prion protein is folded differently from mad cow and can't attach to human that's why "considered" safe but suggested not to eat the meat.

Biggest issue with cwd is the fact the prion can attach to plants and soil and infect animals that way. So say a cwd deer goes into a bean field and begins to eat and of course pee and crap through out the field it's spreading prion to the plants and soil where it can survive for months. Farmer comes in 2 month later and harvest the beans which are then cooked and canned and sold to humans with prions that are still active possibly def something like fresh produce. This is what I mean we are screwed if it becomes tranmissable to humans. All cervids would pretty have to be wiped out so deer, moose, elk, and a few others.

https://www.wisconsinacademy.org/...called%20prions,Center%20(NWHC)%20in%20Madison.



https://www.cdc.gov/...ons/cwd/transmission.html


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1262585/

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Feb 27th 2021, 8:53:51

This is spectacular:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4449294/
https://www.foodsafetynews.com/...ing-disease/#.VwcDGfkrLIV
https://mmbr.asm.org/content/81/3/e00001-17

TL:DR Plants grown on soil where a CWD deer has been buried, fed to other animals can transmit the disease to those animals. Since the prions have been observed to somehow replicate in the infected animals and they have been shown to resist degradation by natural processes including a resistance to known proteases, it is entirely possible that there is a progressively accumulating number of prions in the environment.

The takeaway here other than the obvious "we are doomed", is that vegans are not safe either, and our food still fluff on their food.

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Feb 27th 2021, 9:51:42

Originally posted by Gerdler:
This is spectacular:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4449294/
https://www.foodsafetynews.com/...ing-disease/#.VwcDGfkrLIV
https://mmbr.asm.org/content/81/3/e00001-17

TL:DR Plants grown on soil where a CWD deer has been buried, fed to other animals can transmit the disease to those animals. Since the prions have been observed to somehow replicate in the infected animals and they have been shown to resist degradation by natural processes including a resistance to known proteases, it is entirely possible that there is a progressively accumulating number of prions in the environment.

The takeaway here other than the obvious "we are doomed", is that vegans are not safe either, and our food still fluff on their food.



Ta da yep it's has also been found the been found in wheat and other cereal grAins. It can't be killed my heat or chemicals as it's not a virus not bacteria. It is it's own class and is doesn't have a shelf life. They said in can last in soil and infect animals for years.

Sad part it believed the disease was accidentally given to deer through a deer study in wisconsin. They did a study on sheep with scrappie after putting those animals down they brung deer into the same study area not knowing it was tranmissable to deer. They released all the deer after their study not knowing they were infected and the danger they had just let out.

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Feb 27th 2021, 10:05:48

We have some cases of CWD in scandinavia so it can't really be only a deer study in wisconsin.

And I think you are wrong about not being able to get rid of it with heat. Problem is you need a higher temperature than boiling water(in normal pressure) which means it breaks down all proteins and it requires higher pressure, like 3-4 bar which is doable but not practical for most cooking.

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Feb 27th 2021, 11:09:03

There was a case where a farm reindeer was sent to another country and infected a reindeer herd. Can't remember where off top of my head. If I remember right they stopped the spread by killing the whole herd and quarantined the entire area for several years till prion where not detected any longer. I wanna say switzerland but can't guarantee that is correct.


Yeah there's a big maybe this disease has always affected cervids like "EHD" and we just didn't know about till the 60s after the scrappie thing. That is a high possibility. No one can pinpoint a time frame just a highly believed theory.

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Feb 27th 2021, 18:05:28

No I think the takeaway from all this is that our planet has had enough and is ready to hit the reset button 😁
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Feb 27th 2021, 21:36:17

Honestly my dude KoH. You're like, supposed to be conservative enough not to say that haha. I gotta check your moderate spectrum atm.

Does this worry you less or more than the climate crisis? Just to throw it on the dartboard as like a 14 for a guy like me as a conservationist you know, could have projected it 200 years ago because everyone knows it happens, and then it happens haha. I dont think we should have been doing this the whole time. But now that we're addressing it, I'm only curious if you view it as a more imminent threat than the climate crisis or no?

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Feb 27th 2021, 21:41:44

It's not like we just keep growing and keep expanding and eventually the world is like nah bro here is chronic wasting disease to eliminate us......that's a silly way to look at things.

What happened is there was no chronic wasting disease, and then humans made it. Accidentally ofc. But it was caused by human error.

We are our own god. And people who cause coincidental environmental problems such as these thru genetic research are actually held accountable.

That's where we're at to be clear.

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Feb 27th 2021, 21:42:27

I just post here to block Derrick's famous triple post.

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Feb 27th 2021, 21:46:04

HER NAME WAS RIO AND SHE DANCES ON THE SANDS

Edit: just noticed gerdler denied my legendary triple post. What a fluffin jerk.

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Feb 27th 2021, 21:47:50

Infamous btw. Not famous.

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Feb 27th 2021, 21:54:22

my bad.

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Feb 27th 2021, 22:01:50

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Feb 27th 2021, 23:04:29

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
Honestly my dude KoH. You're like, supposed to be conservative enough not to say that haha. I gotta check your moderate spectrum atm.

Does this worry you less or more than the climate crisis? Just to throw it on the dartboard as like a 14 for a guy like me as a conservationist you know, could have projected it 200 years ago because everyone knows it happens, and then it happens haha. I dont think we should have been doing this the whole time. But now that we're addressing it, I'm only curious if you view it as a more imminent threat than the climate crisis or no?


Again, I'm a libertarian, and when it comes to science I only look at the reports that are backed by field evidence, there's some "scientists" that work backwards, they come up with a theory and then look for the evidence to partially support it and run with it (the ones that politicians listen to), if the democrats were accurate then all the glaciers would have disappeared a decade ago, if the republicans were right our climate would have shifted back to cooling cycle and we would be heading towards the next ice age, bottom line is both parties have politicized science.

To answer your question, climate change doesn't worry me at all because of the nature of it, it is gradual and we can adapt rather quickly, but when it comes to disease....well, look no further than 2020.

https://youtu.be/3cA5A4dZ0gs

It's an hour and half long video but you'll see it, it's called The Milankovitch Cycles and is explained by Nick Zentner, a fantastic geology professor at CWU.

Edited By: KoHeartsGPA on Feb 27th 2021, 23:52:18. Reason: Better wording and btw autocorrect sux balls
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Feb 28th 2021, 15:43:36

I learned a lot about this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHOUpczwcyA

Some of you might enjoy that clip.

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Feb 28th 2021, 19:23:42

Originally posted by Requiem:
I learned a lot about this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHOUpczwcyA

Some of you might enjoy that clip.


Ha!, I saw that interview couple months after it came out, really good one too, I'll "watch" it again this week while on the road, more like listen to it ;-)
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Feb 28th 2021, 20:59:19

CWD is not exactly a new thing, its been around for decades
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Feb 28th 2021, 21:13:58

Yeah but it seems to be spreading quicker than originally estimated, and like every disease if not taken seriously it will spiral out of control leaving us a bigger mess to clean up, and this is one that can be potentially worse than covid 19.
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