Things I've learned from this post

1) Trife can't count
2) Trife has no life
3) Game is still broken, probably until EVO gets suicided.

Time Frame, NeoFed's FS happened about 3 Hours after the Triple Tap, in an incident like this, that allegedly involved an FR, shouldn't the discussion be between both Alliance's Leader?

Was there discussion within that 3 hour time frame??

We don't know. It really doesn't matter who did what, when, or why. Both sides agreed to a uNAP. One member decided to violate the terms with a triple tap, the other alliance decided to break the pact and FS.

More pointless reasons have been used to go to war, but let's face it, those 3 hits would not have been enough reasons 99% of the time since Tag was introduced into the game.

Pacts doesn't really mean anything now-a-days.

They broke a term? Let's FS them!

Best as in potential to finish #1, sure. But not legit anyways, so no, it is not the best country.

LaF and NeoFed's relations is between themselves, all we can speculate as spectators is whether they had a pact or not. Even if they had a pact, the retaliation for a triple tap is, an unjustifiable overreaction.

http://www.eestats.com/...e%5B%5D=NeoFed&page=1

Holy batman overreaction for a triple tap?

RD is still cheating, just under a different name.

SO LIKE HOW LAF HAD TO GO ABUSE LAND TRADING BEFORE THE BUILDING COST CHANGE, WE MUST ASK LAF TO ALL RUN SUICIDERS! THUS, SUICIDING WILL BE FIXED.

SOMEONE GET A HOLD OF EUGENE, AND ASK HIM TO MAKE ALL OF LAF TO SUICIDE NEXT RESET.

JELLY

THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES, WHICH IS BETTER FOR THE GAME?

TYRANNY WHO GRABS MORE LAND?
OR
DICTATORS WHO GRABS MORE BUILDINGS?

JELLY

Interesting how SOL has a trade pact with this guy

Warster, what tellarion saying is that, just like before, from the beginning, EVO members always had a sneak preview and input into game changes.

It gave them advantages to knowing what's coming, and be prepared, much like how they have every in game formula direct plugged into their Alliance site.

Hanlong would have already made a new Boxcar already, had he not been banned for being allowed to look at codes by an admin.

Kill Stealing is WRONG!

LaF FSes EVO because in their mind EVO broke a pact.

EVO trashes LaF on AT because in their mind LaF broke a pact.

Looks like one side takes action and the other opens their mouth instead.

*pies Sov*

anoniem practically WROTE that memo though

EVO thinks they can insult LaF with their country theme and get away with it?

That's hilarious. Wish I was in LaF right now.

rwj spews out outdated crap that not many people know, and then gets famous because the mass majority of people who didn't know the crap he spews thinks he's some kind of god

it's sad

Karma's a fluff an't she

One of the things I've heard of why PDM started the suiciding on LaF 8 years ago, was because they couldn't beat RD, and they thought that RD and LaF is basically one alliance, so they'll hurt LaF instead.

Is that true?

i think this is the first time RD has ever had to EXPLAIN why they did what they did.

sure doesn't look like it's coordinated in the news to me.

but I can't see inside LaF, I guess dagga can because he's so sure of it

Which is stupid, because it's not like Fisher requested to be traded, it's the team's management's fault, which, why the hell does Murray still have a job.


and Canucks are not weird, we are #1 in the conference.

entitlement.

that is the problem, same problem with why the game was dying.

everyone thinks they are entitled to something, like crappy WoW players think they should be playing the end game, so they fluff and moan until the admins makes the game cheesewalk.

everyone else signs pacts, why does PDM expect another alliance to simply GIVE you a DNH at the start of a reset with out confirmation, there are pacts that are signed that says it's auto renewed, but in this situation, looks like it isn't it.

PDM thinks they are entitled to respect, to be able to do anything they want, including using special attacks, missiles, and harmful spyops to 'retaliate' against other alliances.

Entitlement,

again, like ZIP mentioned, this is a war game, it's not hug the trees until the cows come home game. If you want to survive, you have to be able to retal (with SS/PS) and hold your land.

if you want to run around with 300k turrets with 20k land, and your alliance isn't pacted out with everyone on the server, then it's your fault. sure, having 3m turrets would increase your expenses, but guess what, you aren't a prime target.


Alliance earns respect, and for others to leave them alone, they have to show that they can retal. Look at WoF, they are doing very fine.

Instead, PDM whines and fluffes, does their stupid stunts, and then when they can't take it anymore, kills a country and comes to AT crying.

Wait, when have we heard this before? Oh right, PDM does this every couple reset.

Ever since Comwood and his attempt at botting, PDM sure seems like they will do anything and everything to get what they want.
And ignoring what's generally accepted and what's not.

Sounds like terrorism to me.



And before you guys point out 17 in 24 again, 17 in 24 is still land grabbing, not missile/AB/steal tech and finally, killing a country (which, is a declaration of war)



Jelly
AT observer.

the pacts and stuff are the FR's work to be done, nothing the Admins can enforce.

that is why PDM has all these missiles, ABs and harmful spy ops retals and there's nothing Admins can do about it.

you want the pacts to not be 10 pages long?

stop doing stupid fluff.

I would like to see bots tagged as well, and that way, it would encourage people to leave the untags alone, new players would get a chance to learn to the game and get recruited.

sure, there will be assholes who'll grab untags too,

but i'm sure there are others who will view the same, just hit the bots.

I just want to see what PDM's current leadership is thinking, since I was in PDM before, and currently only play express.

obviously PDM isn't the oldself anymore,

Then what is respectable land grabbing?

as the old saying goes, Respect isn't given, it's fluffing earned.

not to mention PDM repeatedly topfeeding LaF's all explorers as part of their method of retaliation after.

PDM has 34 countries, to do 17 retals, I miss the days when I was in a 10man alliance and had to do 20 retals a day...

Those 17 hits? by 8 countries according to the news.

that's about 2 hits each. Not exactly farming, nor coordinated since the times are so spread out.

http://www.eestats.com/...ide[]=Paradigm&page=1

the first nuke was already launched within 24 hours after that, it doesn't look like there was much FR work at all.

but what do I know, I'm not in either alliance.

get rich, sail around the world, hand out bibles, death.

that is why Jesus stuck to land, oh wait, he died too

if imag = loose cannon, then SOL = the guy that does things their way, and don't give a crap about other people?

Canucks > all of you.

what do they do for defending ? adds defensive strength?

also, if you zoom in really closely, you can find mr.ford's phone number.

did he take xrays or anything to check bone structure/

my rotty jumped over the fences all the time, once he got caught and one of his back leg bone broke, the vet wanted to put him down, we spent a couple thousand just to get him walking again.

if you slow down your internet connection by downloading a bunch of things, the page wouldn't load instantly, and you can spam press that button as many times as you want

quite effective if you are rushing

manual labour,

in 2025, all machines that uses oil (other then those that are used for war) are illegal.

Mr. Lime,

Evo's continued practice of running untags (while sometimes allied to them) that top feeds other alliances while feeding land to Evo, is the reason why they have been brought up.

While it may be your view that Evo doesn't have a hand in this country's actions, it's certainly very questionable on Evo's part.

anoniem's 194!

I'm actually applauding EVO here, they had the guts to piss off RD, but then again, what has EVO to lose? They are going to get tag killed anyways in the war, right?

And BobbyATA, LaF hits EVO, boohoo, take retals, or do some FR work if EVO is allied to LaF.

But EVO GSing their own countries into DR? That's totally a legit tactic to EVO.

And I love how all the EVO admins are defending EVO while Pang (Who doesn't play anymore) is trying to get everyone to stop spinning crap

Slanders all over the place.

I saw a guy Running untags in an Internet cafe while on Evo's site and IRC telling them to hit him while he hit other alliances.

See how easy it's done?

Sigh

Someone will run buyouts eventually and ruin it. Not plausible IMO

Time Line

LaF dominates top 10
Other alliances FAs their top country into top 10
LaF starts doing so to cancel the affects, and even it out.

No one talks about it for 10 years.

EVO member loses top 10 spot to a LaF country because of FAing, most of the rest of top 10 was FA'ed/Abused the system through other ways.

Evo comes to AT to fluff

LaF is now painted as cheaters because apparently they are the only ones that FAs into top ten, but doesn't follow the current practices like land trading, internal land farming, and running untag land farms that suicides on LaF.

Evo denies everything, alliance op of Evo countries allied with untag suicider apparently is not evidence.




am i missing something?

Steroids business has tripled this month alone!

these 'random' events are happening way too often....

if people are getting to top 10 with less countries than 16, then obviously the rest of the FFA's community's netters are doing something wrong.

also, who the hell can run 500 countries? with a bot script? oh right..

mrford, i'm going to go and race in the NASCAR and win,

and then I'll say live on TV, mrford, this fluff is too easy.

Want to net with morals? Join LaF?

that'll be a slogan

get more posts in this thread, maybe we can get this on WSJ too!

no, Toronto is the center of the Universe.